Glad the guy has survived but I will never understand folk putting themselves at serious risk for animals.

99 times out of 100 a dog will rescue itself. Very difficult to see a dog struggling in the water but anyone going in to rescue one is more likely to drown than the dog is.

If he jumped in the Thames to attempt to save a dog, he needs his head examining.
Fancy putting yourself in danger and having to be fished out by the RNLI for a bloody dog.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:25 pm

If he jumped in the Thames to attempt to save a dog, he needs his head examining.
Fancy putting yourself in danger and having to be fished out by the RNLI for a bloody dog.

Some people think more of dogs than Hoomans. Good effort Jordan ,I would have done the same if in that situation..Wouldn't have jumped in to save you though Eddie.

If you don't care much about animals, there's something severely wrong with you and alarm bells should be ringing. Fair play to him.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:25 pm

If he jumped in the Thames to attempt to save a dog, he needs his head examining.
Fancy putting yourself in danger and having to be fished out by the RNLI for a bloody dog.

I’m with you on this one Eddie. I love dogs much the same as a lot of people, but the reality is, if you jump in to such dangerous waters, you are highly likely to compound the initial problem further! That’s basic 101 for life saving and emergency first aid - don’t make 1 casualty into 2!!

Credit to Jordan but the fact is if a dog is struggling in water, a human is highly likely to struggle more.

Labradors are fantastic swimmers. If it is struggling in water then that water is dangerous to enter. Unless of course the animal is injured and that is causing the issue.

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:15 pm

Credit to Jordan but the fact is if a dog is struggling in water, a human is highly likely to struggle more.

I guess they have webbed feet and a lower centre of gravity, but that's about it. Humans, as dumb as we are, are better swimmers overall.

He said on his breakfast show this morning that he climbed over a gate then managed to drag the dog out of the water onto a pontoon but then couldn’t move as the pontoon was unstable and if he had let go of the dog it would’ve gone straight back into the water.

He saved the dog and survived so looks like he made the right decision.

Maybe he just didn’t think. A lot of people don’t in that moment. Some people act on instinct, others stand by and watch… and then there’s those that get the phone out and film it.
We use animals for our benefit all the time. We even push them into dangerous situations so we don’t have to do it. Nice to see someone giving something back.

Well done that man.

Sounds like he wasn't stupid and didn't enter the freezing fast flowing water. I think its more of a case of pulling the dog out of the river and the wet dog making the pontoon slippery. Anyway, good on him.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:27 pm

Maybe he just didn’t think. A lot of people don’t in that moment. Some people act on instinct, others stand by and watch… and then there’s those that get the phone out and film it.
We use animals for our benefit all the time. We even push them into dangerous situations so we don’t have to do it. Nice to see someone giving something back.

Well done that man.

Absolutely.

We need a few more selfless people in this world, and less armchair critics on the sidelines who haven’t got a clue what they are talking about.

Could have ended really badly, so glad it didn't and Jordan didn't go South.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:14 pm

Could have ended really badly, so glad it didn't and Jordan didn't go South.

A big gap to fall into.

Glad he’s ok. Good lad is Jordan. Loves the club like most of us.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:27 pm

Maybe he just didn’t think. A lot of people don’t in that moment. Some people act on instinct, others stand by and watch… and then there’s those that get the phone out and film it.
We use animals for our benefit all the time. We even push them into dangerous situations so we don’t have to do it. Nice to see someone giving something back.

Well done that man.

This is really weird but nonetheless true.

The other day, Sunday I think, I for some reason started thinking about a man who saved a dog in the sea at Brighton. I really don't know why.

Just found the video and in fact is was a lady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSRo0gQ6mE

The British ARE more animal-friendly than on the continent. Sweeping statement but true I believe.

Sounds like he had it covered and then momentarily thought what next.

All good.

Good hearted man.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:10 pm

99 times out of 100 a dog will rescue itself. Very difficult to see a dog struggling in the water but anyone going in to rescue one is more likely to drown than the dog is.

That depends how the bank is. I wouldn't fancy a dogs chances escaping from the MSC in & around irlam locks & the thelwall viaduct in certain places. Dogs are daft & will tire out paddling I've often scrambled down a banking escaping daft dogs (mostly puppies) without presenting much of a danger to myself but near enough certain death for the distressed dog.

Lip wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:32 pm

Some people think more of dogs than Hoomans. Good effort Jordan ,I would have done the same if in that situation..Wouldn't have jumped in to save you though Eddie.

His choice, of course, but it could have gone horribly wrong and I'm delighted to hear that you're stupid enough to jump into a river for the sake of a dog, disregarding the threat to your life and perhaps those of others called out to save you.

Fwiw, I couldn't give one of your dog's craps about you jumping in to save me, Lip, you're probably pretty **** at swimming too.

hoosier-daddy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:44 pm

If you don't care much about animals, there's something severely wrong with you and alarm bells should be ringing. Fair play to him.

I certainly don't care enough about animals to risk a human's life to save them (especially not my own). And I hear no alarm bells!

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:25 pm

His choice, of course, but it could have gone horribly wrong and I'm delighted to hear that you're stupid enough to jump into a river for the sake of a dog, disregarding the threat to your life and perhaps those of others called out to save you.

No threat to the lifeboatmen in this case.

dsr wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:29 pm

I certainly don't care enough about animals to risk a human's life to save them (especially not my own). And I hear no alarm bells!

Good for you

hoosier-daddy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:44 pm

If you don't care much about animals, there's something severely wrong with you and alarm bells should be ringing. Fair play to him.

I don't care much for them, and certainly wouldn't put my life at risk for one. When you've a spare half day take a walk along the north prom at Blackpool, there's a memorial there that shows what happens when someone trys to save an animal. There are others scattered around the world.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:25 pm

His choice, of course, but it could have gone horribly wrong and I'm delighted to hear that you're stupid enough to jump into a river for the sake of a dog, disregarding the threat to your life and perhaps those of others called out to save you.

Fwiw, I couldn't give one of your dog's craps about you jumping in to save me, Lip, you're probably pretty **** at swimming too.

Yes,im not the best swimmer Eddie , but my lad represented Gt Britain students and won a bronze medal .Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and yours Eddie..

Row x wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:55 pm

I don't care much for them

You do surprise me

Don't know about anyone else but if my dog or any other dog for that matter was drowning I wouldn't think twice about trying to save him,I think most dog lovers would feel exactly the same way.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:25 pm

If he jumped in the Thames to attempt to save a dog, he needs his head examining.
Fancy putting yourself in danger and having to be fished out by the RNLI for a bloody dog.

One of the few things that we'll agree on

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:32 pm

Don't know about anyone else but if my dog or any other dog for that matter was drowning I wouldn't think twice about trying to save him,I think most dog lovers would feel exactly the same way.

I'd try but I'm not sure that jumping in the Thames would be the best thing to do.

I'd jump in if Eddie was struggling in the water.........just to hold his head under.




Just joking of course.

Given the state of the water in the Thames, how choppy and wild it can be - how cold it can be in winter

The guys an absolute pillock for jumping in for a dog

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:20 pm

I'd jump in if Eddie was struggling in the water.........just to hold his head under.




Just joking of course.

Yes,so was I,but Eddie has lost his sense of humour

Good man, Jordan.
It might be a bit simplistic, but generally I think if you care about animals you’ll care about people.

Middle-agedClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:23 pm

Good man, Jordan.
It might be a bit simplistic, but generally I think if you care about animals you’ll care about people.

More often than not that's the case. You can rescue animals in danger by carrying out a calculated risk assessment as opposed to some of the extreme views that you are nuts for doing so. What some people seem to forget is that although dogs have more legs than humans humans can usually reach a greater height (dwarfs aside) so have that advantage especially when in water. I don't think anybody's promoting the idea of jumping in fast flowing dark deep water rescuing animals.

I didn't know who Jordan North was. Thought it was a possible new signing.

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:20 pm

I'd jump in if Eddie was struggling in the water.........just to hold his head under.




Just joking of course.

Still living rent free. Happy days.
Just joking of course.

As much as I love them,I'd never risk my life for a dog,especially a strangers dog.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:39 pm

I'd try but I'm not sure that jumping in the Thames would be the best thing to do.

We have had our dog over 12 years,we love it more than people I just wouldn't stand there and watch it drown.

Brave man Jordan; jumping into that sewer infested river and ignoring the threat of all sorts of diseases. Hope his tetanus jabs are up to date

Could be the reason why his accent has suddenly disappeared

It’s been touched on above but there are so many cases of the dog saving itself and the poor, brave human perishing. It really isn’t worth it.

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:15 am

It’s been touched on above but there are so many cases of the dog saving itself and the poor, brave human perishing. It really isn’t worth it.

If you know what you are doing with a calculated risk assessment it's ok. I mentioned the MSC on a earlier post I know the depths vary from 28ft to 30ft neither of us will stand up but jumping into a depth of 4/5ft which wouldn't present a problem in most UK canal & rivers certain stretches it'd be ok every situation is different. You don't have to put yourself in real danger majority of the time. People die (mostly) because they don't know what they doing.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:30 am

If you know what you are doing with a calculated risk assessment it's ok. I mentioned the MSC on a earlier post I know the depths vary from 28ft to 30ft neither of us will stand up but jumping into a depth of 4/5ft which wouldn't present a problem in most UK canal & rivers certain stretches it'd be ok every situation is different. You don't have to put yourself in real danger majority of the time. People die (mostly) because they don't know what they doing.

Fair point. Every case is different. I’d jump in canal myself as it is a shallow?, non-flowing body of water.