• Clarets vs Watford

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:06 pm**

Line up:

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Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:06 pm**

Laurent, hannibal, Cullen and brownhill all in the starting line up?

odd one.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:07 pm**

Hannibal on the wing or a change of tactical line up?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:08 pm**

Strong midfield!

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:08 pm**

LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:08 pm
Strong midfield!

All midfield!

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:09 pm**

WTF is that line up?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:10 pm**

Not sure we have enough cover for the defence on the bench

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:10 pm**

Midfield looks very unbalanced/lacking creativity. Worried today might be another frustrating one.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:10 pm**

I have a feeling this might not be the most riveting watch

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm**

5 defenders on the bench?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm**

7 centre backs in the matchday squad is a concern about where we are in regards to attacking options

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm**

Just the 4 centre backs on the bench. Pure SP!

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm**

4-4-2?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm**

No strikers but 5 midfielders

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm**

Duplicate post

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm**

I remember someone asking earlier this week for examples of Parker playing players out of position.

Here you go, there's a minimum of 2 right here.

And a bench full of centre backs. Odd one. Hope it's some tactical master plan.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:12 pm**

No strikers but 5 midfielders

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:13 pm**

We are more attractive away than at home

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:14 pm**

This would have been ideal to try Flemming in the 10 whilst Sarmiento is out and give Houtondji a start, as a striker. Instead we play 4 defensive midfielders and Flemming up front, who isn't an out and out striker. It's really weird and often why we seem to start games so slowly.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:14 pm**

At least that shows certain people the club do know the rules concerning Sarmiento. It's bad news but he'll be back on Boxing Day.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:15 pm**

I'm not convinced about Flemming playing up top with his back to goal again, but let's see how it all gels. Setting off for Goodies Bar in five mins.COYC

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:16 pm**

It's good to see Steve back and Hannes Delcroix on the bench. We'd all (I think) like to see Redmond back but he's picked up a new injury (calf?) and we cannot take chances on that.

UTC

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:16 pm**

The heavy midfield allows any one of them to run into the box and support Flemming. They can also carry the ball with confidence, knowing they aren't leaving a hole behind them for Watford to exploit.
I'm not saying it will work, but at least it's different. I'd still prefer Jay or Houtonji up top with Flemming behind, but we have the options on the bench to mix it.
I have a feeling Watford will show a bit more attacking intent than most of the teams that turn up. I hope so.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:19 pm**

It might be a stroke of genius, but it looks a really odd team selection on paper.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:19 pm**

ecc wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:14 pm
At least that shows certain people the club do know the rules concerning Sarmiento. It's bad news but he'll be back on Boxing Day.

They must follow this MB

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:21 pm**

Ideal game for Joe Westley to have been on the bench.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:24 pm**

sjb wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:21 pm
Ideal game for Joe Westley to have been on the bench.

Perhaps but sadly Agyei isn't.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:25 pm**

sjb wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:21 pm
Ideal game for Joe Westley to have been on the bench.

So we could have 3 strikers as well as 4 centre backs on there?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:25 pm**

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:16 pm
I'd still prefer Jay or Houtonji up top with Flemming behind, but we have the options on the bench to mix it.

Most people would like to see Flemming tried as a No 10

Except Parker ??

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:32 pm**

Afternoon, Clarets Around the Globe.
Hmmmmm....a Line-Up to think about.......on our way to 3 Points!

COME ON UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CLARETS!!

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:33 pm**

Lots of managers on this thread, maybe Hannibal & Cullen more defensive and Laurent & Brownhill box to box

Definitely done the right thing not starting Hountondji-he may have potential but needs to be the first loan out we make this window

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:33 pm**

Always love this thread where the usual suspects log in to complain for the next 4 hours and beyond.

I’ve just looked up Joe Westley, played 26 minutes of National League football off the bench for Rochdale. Not sure how that warrants being on the bench for a Championship game.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:34 pm**

Mattster wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:11 pm
I remember someone asking earlier this week for examples of Parker playing players out of position.

Here you go, there's a minimum of 2 right here.

And a bench full of centre backs. Odd one. Hope it's some tactical master plan.

It’s a strange one with Hannibal over Koleosho but apart from that there isn’t anyone (Flemming is an 50/50 call for out of position). And it’s anyone’s guess if Luca is 100% fit. As for the bench you’ve got Agyei, Redmond, Tresor, Benson, Foster, Sarmiento and Massengo all unavailable so I’m not sure it’s by design.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:36 pm**

I Reckon
Trafford
Egan-Riley Esteve Humphreys
Roberts Cullen Brownhill Anthony
Hannibal Laurent
Flemming

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:39 pm**

NL Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:33 pm
Always love this thread where the usual suspects log in to complain for the next 4 hours and beyond.

I’ve just looked up Joe Westley, played 26 minutes of National League football off the bench for Rochdale. Not sure how that warrants being on the bench for a Championship game.

How many NL games does it take?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:39 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:34 pm
It’s a strange one with Hannibal over Koleosho but apart from that there isn’t anyone (Flemming is an 50/50 call for out of position). And it’s anyone’s guess if the latter is 100%. As for the bench you’ve got Agyei, Redmond, Tresor, Benson, Foster, Sarmiento and Massengo all unavailable so I’m not sure it’s by design.

Flemming isn't a 50/50, he's out of position as a lone striker and it's shown every game. You could argue 50/50 if he was part of a front 2.

There's a few possible formations but in all of them there's a 2 players out of position.

3 at the back you've got Anthony and Flemming out of position. 4-5-1/4-3-3, you've got Hannibal and Flemming out.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:40 pm**

Paulclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:36 pm
I Reckon
Trafford
Egan-Riley Esteve Humphreys
Roberts Cullen Brownhill Anthony
Hannibal Laurent
Flemming

That would be interesting. Certainly attacking!

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:41 pm**

I think we'll be fine with that lineup.
C'mon Burnerleeeeey-ah!

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:41 pm**

NL Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:33 pm
Always love this thread where the usual suspects log in to complain for the next 4 hours and beyond.

We've already had the "worried" and "fear" mentioned.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:44 pm**

Mattster wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:39 pm
Flemming isn't a 50/50, he's out of position as a lone striker and it's shown every game. You could argue 50/50 if he was part of a front 2.

There's a few possible formations but in all of them there's a 2 players out of position.

3 at the back you've got Anthony and Flemming out of position. 4-5-1/4-3-3, you've got Hannibal and Flemming out.

Regardless of Flemming, which seems the main issue, the original poster claimed there were ‘mind boggling’ players out of position, I mean unless you’re super dense none of that is mind boggling, given the lack of options - which is why I questioned the hyperbolic nature of the claim. It’s another absolutely weak bench. Can count on one hand the amount of good benches we’ve had this season and 2 of them were in the first two games.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:45 pm**

You could make a tactical arguement for it because Watford are very weak in midfield, with Sissoko not much or a runner, so maybe the plan is to absolutely dominate in there. Just feel it'll be too congested in the middle and we'll have very little out wide plus not much going on in the box.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:49 pm**

NL Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:33 pm
Always love this thread where the usual suspects log in to complain for the next 4 hours and beyond.

I’ve just looked up Joe Westley, played 26 minutes of National League football off the bench for Rochdale. Not sure how that warrants being on the bench for a Championship game.

I'm not saying sjb is right but I'm fairly sure he's seen far more of Westley than most of us. It's not just a random suggestion.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:49 pm**

Parker has form for doing this before the transfer window opens, a message to don pace?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:49 pm**

Josh Laurent will, I hope, play just behind Flemming.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:50 pm**

Couldn’t make it today. But what a bizarre lineup and bench.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:52 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:44 pm
Regardless of Flemming, which seems the main issue, the original poster claimed there were ‘mind boggling’ players out of position, I mean unless you’re super dense none of that is mind boggling, given the lack of options - which is why I questioned the hyperbolic nature of the claim. It’s another absolutely weak bench. Can count on one hand the amount of good benches we’ve had this season and 2 of them were in the first two games.

There's 2 strikers on the bench when we have a 10 being played upfront, a 10 who has shown game after game he's not a lone striker. Our only run of good performances came with an actual striker up front. It is mind boggling he persists with that.

There's an 8 on the right wing when you have a winger on the bench.

It doesn't have to be a weak bench, if he played players in position it would be much more balanced.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:53 pm**

Hannibal looked ok out wide when he came on last game.

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:55 pm**

ecc wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:49 pm
I'm not saying sjb is right but I'm fairly sure he's seen far more of Westley than most of us. It's not just a random suggestion.

I've watched a lot of the U21s. Westley isn't at the level and I'm not sure he's a fit for our first team, he's pure poacher - I don't think there's really a place for that kind of player at this level and above. Obviously Mellon isn't available but he's twice the player Westley is (if not more).

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:59 pm**

Sonne is in the Bob Lord today - must be confirmed

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2024 3:01 pm**

Wouldn't be surprised to see Hannibal on the wing like against Norwich. COYC!

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