The 1970's and 80's were considered to be the worst of the Hooligan era as far as football fans in England were concerned. It was kicking off at most domestic venues and we exported it into the European stage with England games and European cup clashes.

Thatcher and her consort of over privileged bafoons decided to try to end football by way of membership schemes, fences, and banning orders in the hope of getting our national game gone.

Despite this, football fought back, although largely sanitised in the form of the new Premier League. The modern game was a different animal to what had been seen before.

Currently, there is this perception by the media and football authorities that football is now a family friendly form of entertainment.

Is it ?

In the last few years there has been a huge increase in football violence in the UK. The biggest clubs have 'main lads' who organise meet ups between rival supporters and tend to be in their 30s and 40's/ Quite a number are mates with each other.

Social media and phones make no problem in avoiding the Police and arranging a 'tear up' with opposing like minded individuals.

Now.there's emerging a new breed of football hooligan. Mostly, aged between 14 and 20 they are there to make an impact in the Social Media world.

Fighting takes place outside football grounds and is usually pre-arranged between both sides. The encounter has to be based on similar numbers. If one side boasts 50 lads up for the scrap and the other only 10 then it doesn't usually take place.

Interestingly, a lot of participants will take a good hiding in order to post pictures of their injuries online.

There are feeder hooligans from lower league teams to the top Premier League outfits. One of the biggest battles is between Bury and York City.

One lad stated online that it cost £40.00 for a theme park ticket but that it was free to get involved in a pub carpark brawl and was 10x more exciting.

He also made reference to that Cocaine was 'cheap as chips'.

What a load of tripe. Modern day hooligans photograph each other falling backwards over seats when a goal is scored and spend the game pulling faces at safely segregated rival fans. Terrifying.

groove wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:57 pm

What a load of tripe. Modern day hooligans photograph each other falling backwards over seats when a goal is scored and spend the game pulling faces at safely segregated rival fans. Terrifying.

That's the image that presents itself inside most grounds. How many teenagers can afford to shell out over £30 to watch a game?

Their entertainment (& violence) is now not only centered around the lower leagues but at local division games.

There was serious disorder at Padiham FC on two occasions last season where the home club was hosting local league finals. It was reported that in one Final players attacked spectators whilst in another fighting continued for in the car park for over an hour after the final whistle.

I’ve not felt in physical danger at football since 1992 and that’s a good thing I reckon.

I have a mate who’s a Villa fan and travels to the European games, on his last trip he was sat next to a guy on the train who was busy organising a gang advising which pub they should descend on in order to meet the opposition, and was proud to display his socials where he played a major part in creating mayhem.

He’d also spent time in the nick, he didn’t have a ticket to the game.
He was in his late 20’s

If they're selecting a location away from the more civilised members of society why not just leave them to get on with? No reason to waste any valuable police, ambulance or hospital time, just let em fight and leave em to bleed

The major badges of honour still remain:

Turning up outnumbered at your local rivals and 'having a proper go'.

Infiltrating the home end with a small, but select, group of extremely violent comrades intent on causing major damage to their top boys.

Posting images of your injuries on Social Media. The most 'likes' tend to include the loss of eyeballs, open wound fractures and full renal collapses.

Fighting with your own mates on the train home.

Does anyone know the OP to check he's ok cos over the last few days he's posted some really odd stuff and sounds like he might need a friend or two around him.

To me there was nothing funnier when French and Russian Hooligans got stuck into the English mob in Marseille. Some of them got proper hidings and some of them even literally got chucked into the sea.

They got shown up exactly for what they are and learnt that lobbing coins, giving verbals and paggering some poor lad 5 to 1 over here don't make a hard man.

Hooliganism here is on its arse. Just full of stupid kids that want to look cool on insta and a load of sex starved saggy middle aged men that are are one stray punch away from a coronary. Most footage I see nowadays is just people 'pogoing' around, it's pathetic.

DA:

You are more than welcome to provide me with some emotional support.

I live in the Burnley area and you can pop round at any point.

A gift of strong spirits or recreational drugs is always a good 'icebreaker'.to start the evening off.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:45 pm

Does anyone know the OP to check he's ok cos over the last few days he's posted some really odd stuff and sounds like he might need a friend or two around him.

Maybe like Pep he's on suicide watch.

I've had a number of appointments recently with medical personnel who have suggested that I have temporary brain relapse.

Following this I have been seen by a consultant who confirmed the diagnosis and suggested that the condition started about 1979.

Stop breaking the ice then

There is pretty much zerotrouble at football these days. Probably more likely to get it in the lower league or non league.

Mark the Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:25 pm

Stop breaking the ice then

Fair point. Advice taken on board.

Ectstacy was commonly blamed for the demise of late eighties hooliganism but a recent lancet paper found a correlative link with the advent of turkey teeth and the associated costs

I would imagine it's very difficult to 'take an end' as used to be done and to nick your scarf - how do you nick a shirt?

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:26 pm

There is pretty much zerotrouble at football these days. Probably more likely to get it in the lower league or non league.

Over 5,800 at Bury v Ramsbottom United yesterday, saw one police van however no coppers. Fans were sort of segregated in the main stand but not on the concourse. The only trouble was the pies sold out during half time.

Interesting that Bury and York get mentioned early on in the post. Back in the early 90s they met in the playoffs and a York lad was badly injured.

I bet Oldham v Rochale in the National League is an 'occasion', as it were.

Dick heads, the lot of them.

Makes me laugh, when you see normal away fans walking down towards the Turf, whilst the " hooligans" wait for a police escort then they act all big and hard pretending to try to get away from the police. Same after the game.

Maybe the OP should change his name to Rompersuit

Guitargeorge wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:55 pm

Maybe the OP should change his name to Rompersuit

He's having a weird few days

Sensible version of DA had a point

This is hilarious . It looks like it was written around 1994/5?. In fact it’s so far off the money and ignorant of the fact that fights moved away from grounds 40 yrs ago .

In fact the OP is clearly fishing

jos wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:11 pm

I have a mate who’s a Villa fan and travels to the European games, on his last trip he was sat next to a guy on the train who was busy organising a gang advising which pub they should descend on in order to meet the opposition, and was proud to display his socials where he played a major part in creating mayhem.

He’d also spent time in the nick, he didn’t have a ticket to the game.
He was in his late 20’s

I think you are getting confused with Farage & co!

Dressinggown wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:50 pm

Fair point. Advice taken on board.

Are you at sea, too?

If loonigans just want to arrange a fight party, then that's up to them. It has nothing to do with football. They could call themselves the Burnley Ballerinas, for all it matters. No one cares.

Hooliganism of the past was scary and involved gangs attacking isolated away fans as well as group punch ups. Never show your colours or open your mouth was good advice. Arrive at a ground and get treated like **** is also a thing of the past.

Our Derby is probably the safest to now attend at any time since the 60's..the Police know who the small band of Bellend's are on both sides.
Those at Ewood on the 4th will be there to see their team victorious and nothing more.

Garnerssoap wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:04 am

Ectstacy was commonly blamed for the demise of late eighties hooliganism but a recent lancet paper found a correlative link with the advent of turkey teeth and the associated costs

I know you jest, but the fall in violent crime over the past few decades has coincided with the fall in the number of consumer products containing lead.

I thought it was the sedatives in the beer!

NL Claret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:29 am

Over 5,800 at Bury v Ramsbottom United yesterday, saw one police van however no coppers. Fans were sort of segregated in the main stand but not on the concourse. The only trouble was the pies sold out during half time.

Interesting that Bury and York get mentioned early on in the post. Back in the early 90s they met in the playoffs and a York lad was badly injured.

It was a female York fan. My mum looked after her at Fairfield Hospital.

The incident has led to a pretty ugly rivalry, yes.

If the idiots want to fight away from the grounds and don’t get anyone else involved then leave them to it .

Hipper wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:17 am

I would imagine it's very difficult to 'take an end' as used to be done and to nick your scarf - how do you nick a shirt?

Ask a few ******* players as they seem to be experts at it on Saturday.

jamesisaburyfan wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:07 pm

It was a female York fan. My mum looked after her at Fairfield Hospital.

The incident has led to a pretty ugly rivalry, yes.

Hi James, I had totally forgotten that it was a female fan, must be over 30 years ago now.

Totally off topic, have you returned to Gigg Lane? Went for the first time in about 10 years on Boxing Day , last time was for a Kenyon Cup final. Enjoyed going back and bumped into a few old friends in town after. It was good to see bars were busy post match. The town needs its football club.