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Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:24 pm
by bumba
https://youtu.be/cjdeme9wkKs?si=Mt-ag0nXICYnbFxd

Is it happening CT, is the report ready?

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:29 pm
by Blyclaret
We have one 35 year old striker in the squad. Do we need another ?

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:31 pm
by bumba
If it meant the other 35 year old not playing again then absolutely

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:32 pm
by jedi_master
Loan him in for Saturday ;)

I can’t see it but I found the somewhat lengthy discussion between him and Parker after the Norwich game rather odd. They have no history as such do they?

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:32 pm
by fidelcastro
Blyclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:29 pm
We have one 35 year old striker in the squad. Do we need another ?
No. A younger striker who can score rather than just wind up the opposition is what we need.

It'll cost a few quid though!

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:34 pm
by Stonehouse
Pears will refuse to play on Saturday if if hears about this.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:34 pm
by beddie
For a moment there I was getting excited thinking we’re getting Zaouray back, what a signing he was.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:35 pm
by warksclaret
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:32 pm
No. A younger striker who can score rather than just wind up the opposition is what we need.

It'll cost a few quid though!
Makes you think what great value we got from Barnes-£350,000 was the supposed fee

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:36 pm
by fidelcastro
beddie wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:34 pm
For a moment there I was getting excited thinking we’re getting Zaouray back, what a signing he was.
For half a season he was very good, but after that he went down hill and although some will say he wasn't given much of a chance in the PL, I never thought he was up to that standard.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:38 pm
by fidelcastro
warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:35 pm
Makes you think what great value we got from Barnes-£350,000 was the supposed fee
Agreed, but I wouldn't have him back now.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:44 pm
by jedi_master
Only just seen the press conference from today where Parker is (strangely? I’ve not even seen a link before this?) asked directly about Barnes returning to Burnley. Parker says he can’t speak about players until they’re in and then smiles….

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:46 pm
by bumba
Family was/are settled up here, good mates with Jack Cork, wouldn't surprise me if we got him until the end of the season to help with the younger players all whilst coaching alongside Cork or moving in to that role in the summer.
Wouldn't be a signing of technical quality but experience wise and what he'd maybe offer the squad could be invaluable and what a player to have in the backrooms team moving forward if that was the case

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:47 pm
by bumba
jedi_master wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:44 pm
Only just seen the press conference from today where Parker is (strangely? I’ve not even seen a link before this?) asked directly about Barnes returning to Burnley. Parker says he can’t speak about players until they’re in and then smiles….
Exactly it's a random question with an answer that isn't one of putting it to bed by denying it or looking confused. These rumours are supposedly flying around but that question was the first time I'd ever heard it mentioned then Parkers answer seems very telling to me.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:55 pm
by Aclaret
Coming back on the Coaching staff could be a good shout.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:55 pm
by Pickles
What is the near obsession with former players? Is it just a Burnley fan thing?

Barnes was brilliant for us and played the game in a way a supporter can easily latch on to. He'll always be remembered for that game against that lot. And was no doubt a good influence in Kompany's Championship season.

But he should've left us about a season earlier than he did, if our recruitment had been better.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:58 pm
by Taffy on the wing
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:36 pm
For half a season he was very good, but after that he went down hill and although some will say he wasn't given much of a chance in the PL, I never thought he was up to that standard.
What a ludicrous statement!.........it shows you know nothing.

Barnes scored plenty of cracking goals in the Premier league & on a team that was usually struggling to stay up.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:08 pm
by DCWat
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:58 pm
What a ludicrous statement!.........it shows you know nothing.

Barnes scored plenty of cracking goals in the Premier league & on a team that was usually struggling to stay up.
Zaroury

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:08 pm
by ClaretTony
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:58 pm
What a ludicrous statement!.........it shows you know nothing.

Barnes scored plenty of cracking goals in the Premier league & on a team that was usually struggling to stay up.
I think he was referring to Zaroury

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:10 pm
by ClaretTony
jedi_master wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:32 pm
Loan him in for Saturday ;)

I can’t see it but I found the somewhat lengthy discussion between him and Parker after the Norwich game rather odd. They have no history as such do they?
They were laughing and joking so probably prompted by Ashley Barnes being Ashley Barnes.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:11 pm
by taio
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:58 pm
What a ludicrous statement!.........it shows you know nothing.

Barnes scored plenty of cracking goals in the Premier league & on a team that was usually struggling to stay up.
Yes, best to understand what his post was about before telling him he knows nothing.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:22 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Ksrclaret seems to have enjoyed my error.......small minds & all that.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:23 pm
by boatshed bill
It's amazing what pushing Rovers' keeper in to the net can do for a player's kudos.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:25 pm
by Taffy on the wing
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:36 pm
For half a season he was very good, but after that he went down hill and although some will say he wasn't given much of a chance in the PL, I never thought he was up to that standard.
Apologies for my error.... :)

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:26 pm
by ksrclaret
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:22 pm
Ksrclaret seems to have enjoyed my error.......small minds & all that.
Happy New Year Taff you old dirtbag ;)

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:37 pm
by fidelcastro
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:25 pm
Apologies for my error.... :)
Being the kind, generous bloke I am, I'll forgive your internet equivalent of a two footed tackle!

😇

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:01 pm
by GetIntoEm
As much as I'd love to see Ashley back, we don't need him in a playing capacity

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:02 pm
by ClaretTony
Whatever does or doesn’t happen in the future - Ashley Barnes was an outstanding signing for us

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:08 pm
by GetIntoEm
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:02 pm
Whatever does or doesn’t happen in the future - Ashley Barnes was an outstanding signing for us
Absolute bargain

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:16 pm
by BurnleyFC
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:36 pm
For half a season he was very good, but after that he went down hill and although some will say he wasn't given much of a chance in the PL, I never thought he was up to that standard.
I wish we had wingers who could put a cross in like he could.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:17 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Was well worth a deal with player coach role
The money wasted on Redmond,Tressor and other non players would have covered his wages

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:20 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
You’d imagine Barnes will be back at the club at the end of the season in a coaching capacity unless he fancies going to Huddersfield to play for Michael duff.

Duff was sat with Chris Casper on Saturday, wondering if anyone could be going on loan to Huddersfield

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:26 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:02 pm
Whatever does or doesn’t happen in the future - Ashley Barnes was an outstanding signing for us
Absolutely.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:28 pm
by fidelcastro
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:20 pm
You’d imagine Barnes will be back at the club at the end of the season in a coaching capacity unless he fancies going to Huddersfield to play for Michael duff.

Duff was sat with Chris Casper on Saturday, wondering if anyone could be going on loan to Huddersfield
Tresor?

:D

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:35 pm
by SouthLondonexile
i would never have let him go.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:44 pm
by bobinho
GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:01 pm
As much as I'd love to see Ashley back, we don't need him in a playing capacity
As mentioned earlier, if him being here in a playing capacity means Jay gets nowhere near the pitch, then it’s a good thing because playing Jay up top is like starting with ten men.
Jays been a very good player, but it’s three seasons too far I’m afraid. Confirmed for me when the Salford lads put him in their pocket…

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:51 pm
by bumba
Pickles wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:55 pm
What is the near obsession with former players? Is it just a Burnley fan thing?

Barnes was brilliant for us and played the game in a way a supporter can easily latch on to. He'll always be remembered for that game against that lot. And was no doubt a good influence in Kompany's Championship season.

But he should've left us about a season earlier than he did, if our recruitment had been better.
What obsession?
Parker was asked directly in his press conference about Barnes coming back

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:52 pm
by bumba
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:02 pm
Whatever does or doesn’t happen in the future - Ashley Barnes was an outstanding signing for us
Your non denial is almost as good an indicator as Parkers smile.......

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:54 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:02 pm
Whatever does or doesn’t happen in the future - Ashley Barnes was an outstanding signing for us
Absolutely beyond doubt.
Best remembered and respected for that IMO

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:57 pm
by Pickles
bumba wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:51 pm
What obsession?
Parker was asked directly in his press conference about Barnes coming back
Exactly. Why? Where have these links come from (do they even exist?)

Seen people on this thread suggest it would be good for Barnes to come back to the club as a coach. Why? Is he a good coach? Is he even qualified? Does he want to be a coach? It's only suggested because he's a former player.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:59 pm
by boatshed bill
Pickles wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:57 pm
Exactly. Why? Where have these links come from (do they even exist?)

Seen people on this thread suggest it would be good for Barnes to come back to the club as a coach. Why? Is he a good coach? Is he even qualified? Does he want to be a coach? It's only suggested because he's a former player.

Actually he, and Jack Cork, started their badges while here.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:59 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
Pickles wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:57 pm
Exactly. Why? Where have these links come from (do they even exist?)

Seen people on this thread suggest it would be good for Barnes to come back to the club as a coach. Why? Is he a good coach? Is he even qualified? Does he want to be a coach? It's only suggested because he's a former player.
He was doing his coaching badges alongside Jack cork whilst still at the club so that suggest he wants to be a coach. You are getting yourself in a pickle or something really not that deep

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:02 pm
by Pickles
boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:59 pm
Actually he, and Jack Cork, started their badges while here.
Oh yeah they did, I remember a video of them both doing some coaching. Forgot about that. Not so sure it means he's a good coach or what Burnley need as a coach but yes, I forgot about that.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:03 pm
by Pickles
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:59 pm
He was doing his coaching badges alongside Jack cork whilst still at the club so that suggest he wants to be a coach. You are getting yourself in a pickle or something really not that deep
Pickle. Good one :D Just think he wouldn't be a good signing and people are for it because of nostalgia, that's all. But if it ramps the atmosphere at the Turf a notch or two then it might be worth it!

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:05 pm
by boatshed bill
Pickles wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:02 pm
Oh yeah they did, I remember a video of them both doing some coaching. Forgot about that. Not so sure it means he's a good coach or what Burnley need as a coach but yes, I forgot about that.

We could do with someone who could teach our lads how to shoot.
i think he has the right personality to get the best out of young players. Cork is with the U21s as far as i know, a good place to start, I think.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:10 pm
by Pickles
boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:05 pm
We could do with someone who could teach our lads how to shoot.
i think he has the right personality to get the best out of young players. Cork is with the U21s as far as i know, a good place to start, I think.
Always had a good shot on him did Barnes. Had a knack of hitting it first time or early. Don't think he's what we need right now on the pitch, would love us to sign a more dynamic striker for the next two, three, four years instead. (If Foster doesn't come good, I'm still of the opinion there's a player there!)

Enthusiasm about Barnes re-signing is because of nostalgia, which is absolutely fair enough.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:10 pm
by bumba
Pickles wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:57 pm
Exactly. Why? Where have these links come from (do they even exist?)

Seen people on this thread suggest it would be good for Barnes to come back to the club as a coach. Why? Is he a good coach? Is he even qualified? Does he want to be a coach? It's only suggested because he's a former player.
I think he'd be an excellent addition to the coaching staff teaching the academy how much it means and what it means to play for and be a BFC player. He loves the clubs his passion brings the best of our other players, he wouldn't be brilliant player wise now but training amongst the group and coming on when we need someone to ruffle a few feathers he'd be a good option and it'd mean something to him.
He'd have been an excellent second half sub against Stoke for example when we needed a push.
Most academy coaches are ex players from said clubs.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:12 pm
by mybloodisclaret
Pickles wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:57 pm
Exactly. Why? Where have these links come from (do they even exist?)

Seen people on this thread suggest it would be good for Barnes to come back to the club as a coach. Why? Is he a good coach? Is he even qualified? Does he want to be a coach? It's only suggested because he's a former player.
There was a video of him and Jack Cork a few years ago taking the Under 21s training working towards their Uefa Pro Licence. It's on Clarets Player somewhere.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:13 pm
by Pickles
mybloodisclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:12 pm
There was a video of him and Jack Cork a few years ago taking the Under 21s training working towards their Uefa Pro Licence. It's on Clarets Player somewhere.
Yes, definitely watched it but forgot I had! Doesn't necessarily mean he's a good coach or what we need but yes, hands up I forgot about that.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:15 pm
by Stayingup
Pickles wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:55 pm
What is the near obsession with former players? Is it just a Burnley fan thing?

Barnes was brilliant for us and played the game in a way a supporter can easily latch on to. He'll always be remembered for that game against that lot. And was no doubt a good influence in Kompany's Championship season.

But he should've left us about a season earlier than he did, if our recruitment had been better.
And missed that goal against Them? Miserable sod you are.

Re: Ashley Barnes

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:18 pm
by Pickles
Stayingup wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:15 pm
And missed that goal against Them? Miserable sod you are.
hahaha I did include that goal! He was brilliant that day. Noticeable during that season that he was often talking Zaroury and Tella through games, telling them when to press.