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ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:52 am
by ClaretTony
Finally got internet access back. I know I'm not breaking any news now but the article is now online.
See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/bashleys-back-home
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:54 am
by jedi_master
"Burnley announced the signing on a short term deal for a player I still believe should not have been discarded at the end of the 2022/23 season."
Could not agree more - the first of many errors Kompany made last summer.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:56 am
by Ightenhill_Claret
Agreed. It wasn’t about him playing 38 PL games it was about having characters in the changing room and someone to lead by example. Barnes would have provided that.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:56 am
by ClaretTony
My belief jedi - he was like a pied piper with those young players in the squad. The comments from Norwich are interesting of him being an important figure in their dressing room.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:58 am
by bfcjg
I think Kompany was jealous of jis popularity and knowledge.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:13 am
by bobinho
Delighted with this. Guys a force of nature.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:17 am
by Roosterbooster
I'm interested to know when you knew about this Tony
Seemed to come completely out of the blue
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:18 am
by Commy
bfcjg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:58 am
I think Kompany was jealous of jis popularity and knowledge.
I totally agree and think that is why he got rid of him. Kompany made some comments in Mission to Burnley that made you feel he didn't really like him. I sometimes wonder if some of the players, Zaroury for one, would have stayed if Barnes had still been here.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:23 am
by bodge
Having been back on the bench for Norwich in the last few games he must be fit, is it all set for a fairytale return.....
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:30 am
by ElectroClaret
bodge wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:23 am
Having been back on the bench for Norwich in the last few games he must be fit, is it all set for a fairytale return.....
It was funny when he came on against us the other week
and tried to spill Browny's water bottle.
Great camaraderie.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:32 am
by ClaretTony
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:30 am
It was funny when he came on against us the other week
and tried to spill Browny's water bottle.
Great camaraderie.
Tom Heaton once told me that if there was anything going on in the dressing room, then rest assured that Ashley Barnes would be behind it, often ably assisted by his partner in crime Ashley Westwood.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:45 am
by ClaretTony
bodge wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:23 am
Having been back on the bench for Norwich in the last few games he must be fit, is it all set for a fairytale return.....
He's only started one, the game before they played us, but he's made seven substitute appearances.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:05 pm
by ClaretPete001
It just shows the difficulty of commoditising players. On the one hand, you have an Eur18 million player who clearly doesn't want to play to the extent that the Chairman comments upon it and on the other you have a 35 year old with a mediocre scoring record who will no doubt be an asset because he provides a bit of sh*thousery and can lead a line.
Hopefully, he can teach Hannibal how to be an absolute tw*t and not get yourself sent off.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:12 pm
by Buxtonclaret
bfcjg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:58 am
I think Kompany was jealous of jis popularity and knowledge.
Wouldn't be remotely surprised to discover a lot of truth in that.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:15 pm
by beddie
bfcjg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:58 am
I think Kompany was jealous of jis popularity and knowledge.
Those were my thoughts too. Personally I’m delighted to have him back. I hope in the games he gets chance to play in he makes a real difference, not only for him but for Parker too.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:06 pm
by ClaretTony
bfcjg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:58 am
I think Kompany was jealous of jis popularity and knowledge.
Kompany admitted that he thought he was a clown and then joked about the response he got when he told him he was no longer wanted at Burnley.
I think you might be right bfcjg.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:38 pm
by Stonehouse
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:06 pm
Kompany admitted that he thought he was a clown and then joked about the response he got when he told him he was no longer wanted at Burnley.
I think you might be right bfcjg.
It’s a pity we couldn’t have done a straight swap for Mighty Mike just to get him out of the place.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:16 pm
by Burnley1989
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:54 am
"Burnley announced the signing on a short term deal for a player I still believe should not have been discarded at the end of the 2022/23 season."
Could not agree more - the first of many errors Kompany made last summer.
The fact hed made his decision to get rid half way through the seasons says it all, foolish
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:51 pm
by Newchurch Claret
As others have said, he should never have been let go. I said from early on that Kompany had a problem with experienced players, with younger, more impressionable ones easier to control. Kompany’s a narcissist who cannot comprehend people having a different view to his own.
I don’t expect Barnes to be scoring goals left, right and centre but his influence on the squad and understanding of the club could prove invaluable between now and June.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:33 pm
by Casper2
Newchurch Claret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:51 pm
As others have said, he should never have been let go. I said from early on that Kompany had a problem with experienced players, with younger, more impressionable ones easier to control. Kompany’s a narcissist who cannot comprehend people having a different view to his own.
I don’t expect Barnes to be scoring goals left, right and centre but his influence on the squad and understanding of the club could prove invaluable between now and June.
Does this include Harry Kane ?
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:43 pm
by Hipper
Barnes was pretty poor at the start of the Kompany season until after that poor Sunderland first half. He then seemed to cut out all the falling overs etc. and concentrated on what we know he is good at. He became a different player, an important one.
Surely that is a credit to Kompany?
There's always been a quality player there if he cut out the crap.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:54 pm
by warksclaret
Hipper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:43 pm
Barnes was pretty poor at the start of the Kompany season until after that poor Sunderland first half. He then seemed to cut out all the falling overs etc. and concentrated on what we know he is good at. He became a different player, an important one.
Surely that is a credit to Kompany?
There's always been a quality player there if he cut out the crap.
....or maybe Bellamy
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:59 pm
by warksclaret
Have we been able to accomodate him in the official 25 man squad. I was under the impression it was full, particularly with Somme joining too
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:35 pm
by ClaretPete001
Hipper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:43 pm
Barnes was pretty poor at the start of the Kompany season until after that poor Sunderland first half. He then seemed to cut out all the falling overs etc. and concentrated on what we know he is good at. He became a different player, an important one.
Surely that is a credit to Kompany?
There's always been a quality player there if he cut out the crap.
Buying free kicks in the PL is worth it's weight in gold. It disrupts the opposition who as often as not have better players than you and gets the team up the pitch.
I don't think Barnes would ever win Mastermind but if some of the younger player's had his football brain and nouse on the pitch we would have done a lot better last season.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:58 pm
by ClaretTony
Hipper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:43 pm
Barnes was pretty poor at the start of the Kompany season until after that poor Sunderland first half. He then seemed to cut out all the falling overs etc. and concentrated on what we know he is good at. He became a different player, an important one.
Surely that is a credit to Kompany?
There's always been a quality player there if he cut out the crap.
He was poor at Sunderland but very definitely not at the start of the season. Played really well at Huddersfield on opening night.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:10 pm
by Bosscat
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:28 pm
by ecc
Out of the blue.
Not sure Barnsey is the whole answer but he could be part of the solution.
A low-cost solution and a player who will be up and running very quickly.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:47 pm
by summitclaret
ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:35 pm
Buying free kicks in the PL is worth it's weight in gold. It disrupts the opposition who as often as not have better players than you and gets the team up the pitch.
I don't think Barnes would ever win Mastermind but if some of the younger player's had his football brain and nouse on the pitch we would have done a lot better last season.
Buying free kicks up to now in 24/25 has been absolutely pointless and just wastes time. We generally just make a short pass sideways or backwards.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:58 pm
by Stonehouse
summitclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:47 pm
Buying free kicks up to now in 24/25 has been absolutely pointless and just wastes time. We generally just make a short pass sideways or backwards.
I thought Flemming had score 2 in the last few weeks .
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:18 pm
by Bullabill
Stonehouse wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:58 pm
I thought Flemming had score 2 in the last few weeks .
He hasn't.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:21 pm
by boatshed bill
Bullabill wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:18 pm
He hasn't.
Hasn't even taken 2?
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:28 pm
by Burnleyareback2
I said a few years ago (and this isn’t a smug I told you so post) Barnes isn’t replaceable and we should keep him until he retired. There is always a 15min spell at the end of a game, 1-0 or 0-1 where he can come on and create havoc.
The only thing that has made me even more convinced about this is the new type of squad we have, young and largely in experienced and new to the club.
Heart will tell me, it’s been worth every penny even if I just watch him warning up in front of the gap toothed gypsys tomorrow.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:34 pm
by Stayingup
Our support at home has dropped off somewhat. It'll take off now. Bashley is a club legend. It's good to have him home
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:41 pm
by Stayingup
Our support at home has dropped off somewhat. It'll take off now. Bashley is a club legend. It's good to have him home
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:43 am
by Elizabeth
I hope he brings something extra to the squad but it isn't going to be goals. Strange things happen in football and this signing is up there with the strangest. Still struggling to comprehend how Parker has sanctioned this one.
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 5:24 am
by jojomk1
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:43 am
I hope he brings something extra to the squad but it isn't going to be goals. Strange things happen in football and this signing is up there with the strangest. Still struggling to comprehend how Parker has sanctioned this one.
As yet, we haven't heard a word from Parker unless I have missed something
As a coach does he have say on signings
Re: ARTICLE: Bashley’s Back Home
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:30 pm
by ecc
Bashley's back in Blackburn.