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Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:56 pm
by Papabendi
Strong rumours he is now close to the end at Everton. No surprises really - they are relegation candidates and by all accounts the brand of football recently has been atrocious.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:59 pm
by boatshed bill
Papabendi wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:56 pm
Strong rumours he is now close to the end at Everton. No surprises really - they are relegation candidates and by all accounts the brand of football recently has been atrocious.
Look at the bottom 3 and tell me you believe any, or all of them, are better than Everton

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:02 pm
by Beckm0
Absolute madness, their last 5 games have all been top 7 teams, to have got anything out of those matches is some effort.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:03 pm
by Vegas Claret
boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:59 pm
Look at the bottom 3 and tell me you believe any, or all of them, are better than Everton
3 wins all season with Everton's side isn't great though, they were better last season.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:03 pm
by equinox
Their loss.

Q. Who would you appoint in their situation, remit being to keep you in the division.

A: Sean Dyche.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:04 pm
by Burnleyareback2
Director of football - bring him home!

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
by equinox
Rooney being linked, apparently?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
by jrgbfc
I think he'd just about keep them up, but with Wolves and Ipswich showing signs of life they'll be getting twitchy.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
by NewClaret
3 wins at this point in the season is never going to be enough for Everton, especially with that team. It should be higher than where they are with the players they have.

It’ll be interesting to see who they go for and how they do.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:10 pm
by Devils_Advocate
To be fair to Dyche he makes a really good point in the post match interview.

https://x.com/AIlEverton/status/1875603929247182960

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:13 pm
by ClaretAndJew
3 wins all season for any club is a disaster, but a Premier League ever present like Everton it's not acceptable.

Also, no one on here would tolerate it. Like with us in the prem last season, it's like that, with apparently awful to watch football.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:15 pm
by Longsider
equinox wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
Rooney being linked, apparently?
Ha ha ha. That would be brilliant

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:15 pm
by beddie
equinox wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
Rooney being linked, apparently?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:17 pm
by BurnleyFC
He’s done a good job there.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:45 pm
by equinox
BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:17 pm
He’s done a good job there.
Damn good manager,

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:49 pm
by IanMcL
equinox wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
Rooney being linked, apparently?
The world must have gone mad!

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:49 pm
by ClaretAL
It was interesting to see Moyes suddenly crawl out of the woodwork saying he wanted back in to football

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:54 pm
by Billyblah
Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:04 pm
Director of football - bring him home!
Snow forecast but id happily drive him back to the Turf tomorrow.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:57 pm
by Walt
ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:13 pm
3 wins all season for any club is a disaster, but a Premier League ever present like Everton it's not acceptable.

Also, no one on here would tolerate it. Like with us in the prem last season, it's like that, with apparently awful to watch football.
You're damn right it wouldn't be tolerated. Some posters on here can't tolerate being 2nd, conceding 9 goals and losing 2 games.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:58 pm
by warksclaret
I think Leicester & Saints are certainties for relegation. Wolves I see improving and over taking Everton, and maybe Ipswich too. All depends if Ipswich can put a run together. Having said that I would not pot Dyche

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:44 pm
by Shaggy
Can’t wait for it to happen again. He’s not adaptable and his football is awful.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:22 pm
by ElectroClaret
equinox wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
Rooney being linked, apparently?
What as, a f***ing ball boy?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:34 pm
by Targetman
Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:44 pm
Can’t wait for it to happen again. He’s not adaptable and his football is awful.

What a surprise coming from you! :lol:

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:38 pm
by agreenwood
He’s been dealt a rough hand, but he’s won 3 football matches in 19 this season. Not many managers would be immune to discussions about their future in that scenario.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:40 pm
by Shaggy
Targetman wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:34 pm
What a surprise coming from you! :lol:
Doesn’t mean I’m not wrong though. His time has passed him by. Jarassic Hoofball is not working and the Everton fans are all seething with him. I don’t blame them. His little bit of magic left when Tony Loughlan left him. What does that tell you.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:44 pm
by Targetman
Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:40 pm
Doesn’t mean I’m not wrong though. His time has passed him by. Jarassic Hoofball is not working and the Everton fans are all seething with him. I don’t blame them. His little bit of magic left when Tony Loughlan left him. What does that tell you.
You are a serial manager basher with plenty of previous ragarding Dyche, Kompany and Parker, and conveniently forgetting some of the fantastic times we had under Dyche.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:48 pm
by colne-claret
He’s been there around 18 months longer than I thought he would. If he does get the sack, where next for him? Can’t see premier league teams taking a punt on him. A relegated prem team perhaps?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:04 am
by Wile E Coyote
Sean Dyche has never had the same financial backing of his peers in that division, not here, not at goodison.
Pep wouldve struggled on his burnley budget. unfair to decry his managerial qualities based on the lunatics running everton.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:05 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
If the end is nigh for him then so be it

He did his job, which was to keep them in the PL when they had to sell so they could buy, with the quality of the squad being reduced, were handed 2 points deductions in one season and their owner was causing absolute carnage
Without those points deductions they would've finished mid table let's not forget

Don't care what his hater(s) on here say about him, nobody else was keeping Everton in the PL with pretty tippy tappy football etc

People hoping he won't get another PL can dream on, because he's certainly enhanced his rep within footballing circles with what he's done at Everton

The new owners might not want him, or they might think he's the man to keep them up and they back him in the January window

We all know he can produce a side that plays attractive and attacking football, he's done it with us that year we finished 7th

Either way, he will leave Everton with his head held high and he should also have the respect of the Everton fans for keeping their club in the top flight

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:15 am
by kentonclaret
Everton are the second lowest scoring team in the Premier League with just 15 goals scored, only 3 more than bottom club Southampton, and 3 goals fewer than the next worst performing team for goals scored. Only Pickford and their back 4 are keeping them out of the drop zone.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:24 am
by Wile E Coyote
kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:15 am
Everton are the second lowest scoring team in the Premier League with just 15 goals scored, only 3 more than bottom club Southampton, and 3 goals fewer than the next worst performing team for goals scored. Only Pickford and their back 4 are keeping them out of the drop zone.
Meaning everton players are keeping them out of the drop zone.
How is that relevant to Sean Dyche?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:50 am
by MrEyres
Yep, Everton are struggling .. couldn’t care less.
Dyche was the best Burnley manager in my 42 years, you wouldn’t want him rockin up at a rival. Give the guy the respect he deserves. Burnley Fc legend.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:25 am
by Jakubclaret
Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:40 pm
Doesn’t mean I’m not wrong though. His time has passed him by. Jarassic Hoofball is not working and the Everton fans are all seething with him. I don’t blame them. His little bit of magic left when Tony Loughlan left him. What does that tell you.
You'll have to help me out by telling me what managers everton fans haven't been seething about. I can't remember 1 they've truly liked & wanted not in recent times.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:48 am
by 4:20
love the bloke but this did tickle me.
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Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:59 am
by Clovius Boofus
equinox wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:06 pm
Rooney being linked, apparently?
Gods of football, please make this happen.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:07 am
by BurnleyFC
4:20 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:48 am
love the bloke but this did tickle me.

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:lol:

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:26 am
by alboclaret
4:20 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:48 am
love the bloke but this did tickle me.

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Thys funny

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:32 am
by Paddy1882
Saw a stat the other day they only won 8 games in 2024, I’m a Sean Dyche fan but that’s just not good enough especially with club like Everton where the fans are very unforgiving at the best of times.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:32 am
by houseboy
Billyblah wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:54 pm
Snow forecast but id happily drive him back to the Turf tomorrow.
Why?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:35 am
by dvalley69
His remit was to keep the club afloat and in the Prem with absolutely zilch resources.
After a couple of years the fans are probably just frustrated now, but overall he's done an excellent job for that club.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:40 am
by Jakubclaret
dvalley69 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:35 am
His remit was to keep the club afloat and in the Prem with absolutely zilch resources.
After a couple of years the fans are probably just frustrated now, but overall he's done an excellent job for that club.
I wouldn't say he's done an excellent job as they haven't really progressed but he's certainly done what was asked of him in challenging circumstances.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:22 pm
by basil6345789
He's probably also battling dark forces within the club, like Laws had to at Burnleh.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:34 pm
by Billyblah
houseboy wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:32 am
Why?
Because referring to dvalley69's reference to him working with zilch all resources but keeping Everton in the Prem, Dyche did an even more impressive job of that at Burnley. Though accepted, he had to resort to "Dycheball" in doing that. It was a level of football that a small club such as Burnley had not achieved in decades.

Adamson, Potts, Ternant, weren't able to achieve it. Kompany naively fell into the trap of trying to play pretty passing football against £billion pound assembled teams whereas Dyche found a way for Boyd, Arfield, Vokes et al to go toe to toe with the finest.

Unfortunately all things come to an end and driving Dyche back to the Turf is even more unlikely than Bashley coming off the bench and scoring a hat trick.

If we find ourselves back in the PL next season let's hope that that Scott Parker takes an intelligent approach to assembling the team.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:40 pm
by mdd2
Had SD been given a decent budget in the summer of 2021 to strengthen the squad we would still be in the Prem IMO.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:48 pm
by ecc
equinox wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:03 pm
Their loss.

Q. Who would you appoint in their situation, remit being to keep you in the division.

A: Sean Dyche.
Fair point, equinox.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:46 pm
by houseboy
Billyblah wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:34 pm
Because referring to dvalley69's reference to him working with zilch all resources but keeping Everton in the Prem, Dyche did an even more impressive job of that at Burnley. Though accepted, he had to resort to "Dycheball" in doing that. It was a level of football that a small club such as Burnley had not achieved in decades.

Adamson, Potts, Ternant, weren't able to achieve it. Kompany naively fell into the trap of trying to play pretty passing football against £billion pound assembled teams whereas Dyche found a way for Boyd, Arfield, Vokes et al to go toe to toe with the finest.

Unfortunately all things come to an end and driving Dyche back to the Turf is even more unlikely than Bashley coming off the bench and scoring a hat trick.

If we find ourselves back in the PL next season let's hope that that Scott Parker takes an intelligent approach to assembling the team.
I think he will. Dyche did it for us but his Achilles heel was his stubborn faithfulness to underperforming players and it all went sour in the end. The Dyche years were great, fantastic, after what we’d been used to, but having Dyche back would be like going back to an old girlfriend, and I’ve never done that either.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:01 am
by Goodclaret
Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:44 pm
Can’t wait for it to happen again. He’s not adaptable and his football is awful.
I have to agree. When I was in Athens watching Burnley play in Europe I just kept thinking "yeah, his football is awful".

Get a grip - what SD did at our club should always deserve the respect whatever happens in the future. He will go down as one of the best managers ever for our club and rightly so.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:51 am
by ClaretPete001
He did brilliantly last year without a decent mainstream striker and points deductions but it's less good this year.

Thus far they've had one of the the brightest young managers currently in the league (now at Fulham), the worlds best manager, big name managers like Lampard, Champions league winning managers and Sam Allardyce and none have been able to re-create what David Moyes did.

I think if you are manager of Everton and fourth or so from the bottom then you can expect the sack but I don't think Dyche had the respect he deserved from the off nor recognition for what he achieved last season.

Let's see how it goes for them with someone else....!

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:13 am
by KRBFC
dvalley69 wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:35 am
His remit was to keep the club afloat and in the Prem with absolutely zilch resources.
After a couple of years the fans are probably just frustrated now, but overall he's done an excellent job for that club.
Zilch resources? He spent £45m on Beto and Chermiti and neither would get into our side atm.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:18 am
by warksclaret
Sadly for Sean, Ipswich are showing real resilience in the past four or five games and no longer the certainties to get relegated leaving Saints/Leicester /Ipswich or Everton as the 3 to get relegated. Wolves I believe will escape relegation.The new owners will be worried at Everton