All the hype this week about revolutionary VAR changes where you can hear/see so much more about the decisions = the ref reading what the screen says.

How a competition is allowed to exist where some games have VAR and others don’t is beyond me but that’s just English football.

Exactly this.

My comments on "tonights games" refer.

Crazy situation.

What did you want the ref to say? How far Solanke was offside by?

This changes nothing.

Same sh!t decisions, just somebody telling you what they are.

The biggest and best “revolutionary” thing they could change with VAR is…… TURN THE ******* THING OFF AND BIN IT.

Just live the discussions between the ref, assistant refs and var, including video on the big screen as per rugby union.

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:51 pm

All the hype this week about revolutionary VAR changes where you can hear/see so much more about the decisions = the ref reading what the screen says.

How a competition is allowed to exist where some games have VAR and others don’t is beyond me but that’s just English football.

You think that the FA Cup Final shouldn't have VAR because Havant & Waterlooville v. Leatherhead didn't have it in the extra preliminary round?

The important thing is that conditions should be the same for both teams in the same game. If Carlisle's home game and Plymouth's home game are played in different weather, or at different times, or with a different refereeing system in place, it doesn't ruin the competition.

They get it right in rugby - it really can’t be difficult to do the same with football.

Unless..,

LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:19 am

They get it right in rugby - it really can’t be difficult to do the same with football.

Unless..,

They get it right in rugby league. I've heard some shockers in rugby union, including one a year or two back when the man was sin-binned for 10 minutes and was stood on the touchline ready to come back on, 9.5 minutes later, when VAR upgraded him to a red card. Which means, of course, that his team had been playing for 9.5 minutes on the false assumption that he was coming back.

dsr wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:07 am

They get it right in rugby league. I've heard some shockers in rugby union, including one a year or two back when the man was sin-binned for 10 minutes and was stood on the touchline ready to come back on, 9.5 minutes later, when VAR upgraded him to a red card. Which means, of course, that his team had been playing for 9.5 minutes on the false assumption that he was coming back.

Not sure about this watched some dreadful decisions in Rugby League as well normally when it involves St Helens or Wigan!

The one and only thing we can learn from Rugby league is automated timing with a horn signalling the final whistle and half time.We then have an accutate computerised time calculation not this random ref led "Fergie time" manipulation

I’m a big fan of both codes, and I like being able to hear the conversations when on the telly box, but some video decisions still take a fair old time, particularly in RU. The quality of the officials making the decision and the behaviour of the players is, however, is (generally) vastly better than football.

Why not have a review team who retrospectively ban / discipline players who can be seen cheating (holding heads when slightly touched on the arm for instance?)

The Championship is working fine - without VAR. Some bad reffing decisions, some bad refs and some downright awful refs! And yes, we bleat about it, but that's how it's always been. VAR hasn't removed that. It's just given it a whole new dimension.

RHansburyEsq wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:35 am

I’m a big fan of both codes, and I like being able to hear the conversations when on the telly box, but some video decisions still take a fair old time, particularly in RU. The quality of the officials making the decision and the behaviour of the players is, however, is (generally) vastly better than football.

They also don't have to stand around for ages waiting to hear whether a toenail was offside, which is one of the biggest frustrations of VAR in football.

VAR reminds me of an old place I used to work at. They bought a new system which wasn’t fit for purpose, they knew it wasn’t fit for purpose and instead of binning it, they invented workarounds to try and make it work because they’d spent so much money on it.

It's not that the VAR systems are bad, it's just we appear to employee some of the most inept people to make decisions, manage the system and allow for no accountability.

I'd prefer having VAR when it's used properly by professional and sensible people than no VAR and having a Koscielny winning goal, Freddie Sears phantom goal or a Dodgy David Dunn penalty.

Unfortunately, we haven't got that at the moment, but hopefully it will eventually occur.