• Hysteria

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:37 pm**

Calm down folks. It’s not pretty and there’s improvement required, but we’re unbeaten in 17 and only 3 points off 2nd place.

There’s no need for “Parker in or out” polls on X or FAB members saying things like “we’re in a mess” and “automatic promotion feels like an absolute laughable aim”. That kind of thing is ridiculous.

It’s ok to not be a fan of the style of football (it’s not my cup of tea either), but some of the histrionics are the only thing “laughable” about what’s going on at the moment.

This level of impatience won’t help us if it filters onto the pitch on Tuesday after 20 minutes when we inevitably encounter another low block.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:41 pm**

It’s not hysteria. That’s a strange take.

It’s frustration at Groundhog Day.

It’s boring. Really boring! And it’s happening all the time.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:41 pm**

It’s not hysteria it’s ennui .

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:44 pm**

Yes, no panic yet. Once of a day, a draw away from home was a good result. Now, because we didn't score {admittedly again}, it's a bad result.
Early goal against Oxford and things will be rosey.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:44 pm**

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:41 pm
It’s not hysteria. That’s a strange take.

It’s frustration at Groundhog Day.

It’s boring. Really boring! And it’s happening all the time.

You don’t think starting an “in or out” poll or describing our automatic promotion chances as “laughable” when we’re in 3rd place is hysteria?

Hysteria is an exaggerated reaction to something. That’s precisely what I’m seeing in places tonight.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:46 pm**

Unbeaten is fine when you’re picking up a decent amount of wins. We aren’t.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:46 pm**

Why is Trafford taking an age to distribute the ball when we need to win to keep up with the top 2? This was with 15 mins left? Beyond frustrating

We are nailed on for the play offs, so we really need to start taking a few risks, changing the formation, anything. As this is just awful to watch.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:47 pm**

Dyched wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:46 pm
Unbeaten is fine when you’re picking up a decent amount of wins. We aren’t.

I’m not saying everything is fine. I’m saying the some of the reaction to draws at the moment is OTT.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:49 pm**

Genuine question - did you go?

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:50 pm**

It’s not hysteria. As for calming down, personally I'm very calm. In fact, after watching the Leeds game followed by today's game, I'm cured of my insomnia.

Fans are allowed to express their opinions, at least until Putin takes over

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:50 pm**

Spot on again. It was a pretty terrible watch and it was far from pretty but frankly we dont have enough real creativity in the final third when teams get behind the ball

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:51 pm**

Deeply frustrating that we seem happy to settle for 0-0 rather than risk losing by rushing (GKs an example) or bringing on Shelvey, Benson and (earlier) Barnes.

So frustration is the word. Hysteria to describe the reaction is also fair.

That game would have been lost in many other seasons and I don’t think a win under VK was guaranteed either. So I can see why keeping the unbeaten run and the defensive record felt important, for the spirit of the players.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:52 pm**

firebfcfire wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:49 pm
Genuine question - did you go?

What if he didn't?
What's that got to do with the price of fish?

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:52 pm**

firebfcfire wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:49 pm
Genuine question - did you go?

No, but I’ve been two two-thirds of our games this season of it’s a ******* contest?

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:52 pm**

Imagine if we were bottom three.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:53 pm**

Tend to agree with Jakub. It's frustration. Groundhog Day...is a good anology.
Three points off second place today...and that gap will grow as we continue to fail to find the net in 'must win ' games.
Unfair to blame Parker.
He witnessed the Alan Pace 'fire sale ' as he moved into his office at the start of the season. He was given only a few days to put a team together just before the window closed. It was a high risk strategy by Pace and it's looking like he's shooting himself in the foot as we head toward the lottery of the play-offs.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:54 pm**

Maybe this no goals conceded thing has become the mindset. Difficult to break. Winning teams don't worry about conceding now and then. They believe they will win and just go for it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:58 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:37 pm
Calm down folks. It’s not pretty and there’s improvement required, but we’re unbeaten in 17 and only 3 points off 2nd place.

There’s no need for “Parker in or out” polls on X or FAB members saying things like “we’re in a mess” and “automatic promotion feels like an absolute laughable aim”. That kind of thing is ridiculous.

It’s ok to not be a fan of the style of football (it’s not my cup of tea either), but some of the histrionics are the only thing “laughable” about what’s going on at the moment.

This level of impatience won’t help us if it filters onto the pitch on Tuesday after 20 minutes when we inevitably encounter another low block.

This wasn't an isolated performance. We approached that game with zero intention to win it despite playing a team hovering just above the relegation zone. It was yet another painful watch

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:58 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:47 pm
I’m not saying everything is fine. I’m saying the some of the reaction to draws at the moment is OTT.

Are you refering to todays 0 0 or are you including the other 9.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:58 pm**

I'm sick of this defensive record/clean sheet thing now.

If we have to concede to start winning again, then so be it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:58 pm**

Hysteria it's what our support does this board is Hysteria central.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:59 pm**

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:50 pm
Spot on again. It was a pretty terrible watch and it was far from pretty but frankly we dont have enough real creativity in the final third when teams get behind the ball

It’s not the creativity from individual
Players that’s the problem, it’s the tactical set up.

When recycle the ball back to Trafford from a corner or when we have the ball in the attacking third, time after time it’s tedious and slow. Even when we intercept the ball in midfield and we should counter with pace it ends up going wide then getting horseshoes around the pitch again.

I can see why he has spectacularly failed in the premier league so far in his managerial career. We would be no different under Parker if he gets us there, infact a performance like that today would see us concede a shed load to top quality players

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:59 pm**

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:50 pm
Spot on again. It was a pretty terrible watch and it was far from pretty but frankly we dont have enough real creativity in the final third when teams get behind the ball

If only we had somebody who could open a defence with a pass or a winger who could cut inside and make things happen.

Two subs we made. Two. And one of them was the 89th minute.

This isn’t safety first football. It is incredible levels of negativity against teams who we have four or five times the resources of.

I do not think we will go up automatically. And that’s now the first time I’ve thought that this season.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:00 pm**

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:58 pm
I'm sick of this defensive record/clean sheet thing now.

If we have to concede to start winning again, then so be it.

Don't mind conceding "if" we win ... but can imagine this board if we concede and don't win ... it would make this nil nil hysteria seem like nowt

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:00 pm**

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:50 pm
Spot on again. It was a pretty terrible watch and it was far from pretty but frankly we dont have enough real creativity in the final third when teams get behind the ball

Teams get 11 men behind the ball as we are too slow in our build up.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:03 pm**

I think home performances I'd expect it, but since Norwich away we've been very good on the road. There's not much balance, relative silence on here after winning that game at norwich, the 2-0 win against Sheff United, Plymouth 5-0. The reaction is SO strong after a poor performance home or away, and we simply don't get a positive reaction after a good one. A draw away, on its own merit, even after a poor performance, is probably not as much the end of the world as being reported. The fans need something to shout about at the Turf, and to be fair it's not been great. We might get a little less nuttiness on here after an away draw then

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:08 pm**

I just want to see goals when we play at home even if we concede 3 on Tuesday I'm sick of watching 0-0s even at our lowest ebb in the dark days of the 80s we didn't see games as boring as I've so far witnessed this season

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:08 pm**

Call me old fashioned, but I’d love to see us put the ball in behind, get them facing their own goal, put them under pressure and see what happens

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:08 pm**

willsclarets wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:03 pm
I think home performances I'd expect it, but since Norwich away we've been very good on the road. There's not much balance, relative silence on here after winning that game at norwich, the 2-0 win against Sheff United, Plymouth 5-0. The reaction is SO strong after a poor performance home or away, and we simply don't get a positive reaction after a good one. A draw away, on its own merit, even after a poor performance, is probably not as much the end of the world as being reported. The fans need something to shout about at the Turf, and to be fair it's not been great. We might get a little less nuttiness on here after an away draw then

This seems pretty fair and balanced.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:12 pm**

We had a good 5 minutes. Thats it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:15 pm**

Ptangyangkipperbang wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:08 pm
I just want to see goals when we play at home even if we concede 3 on Tuesday I'm sick of watching 0-0s even at our lowest ebb in the dark days of the 80s we didn't see games as boring as I've so far witnessed this season

Not boring, but nearly went into extinction
Last year wasn't boring, bet you loved that when the opposition were scoring 3 nearly every game

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:18 pm**

Socrates wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:59 pm
If only we had somebody who could open a defence with a pass or a winger who could cut inside and make things happen.

Two subs we made. Two. And one of them was the 89th minute.

This isn’t safety first football. It is incredible levels of negativity against teams who we have four or five times the resources of.

I do not think we will go up automatically. And that’s now the first time I’ve thought that this season.

Fair, but if we sign Marcus Edwards he is not going to play backwards constantly, nor can he be left on the bench. It wouldn’t be a safety first signing. In fact it will be the most exciting signing I can remember.

Seems to me the issue isn’t not wanting to win, it is Parker not having the players creative or spontaneous enough to do what he wants, and vitally, within the framework he needs them to play in (which is why Benson won’t be his preferred option).

It is why this window is vital.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:18 pm**

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:54 pm
Maybe this no goals conceded thing has become the mindset. Difficult to break. Winning teams don't worry about conceding now and then. They believe they will win and just go for it.

Good point. I am sure that the whole team are now keen to maintain this defensive record and not just the back 4 and goalkeeper.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:18 pm**

willsclarets wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:03 pm
I think home performances I'd expect it, but since Norwich away we've been very good on the road. There's not much balance, relative silence on here after winning that game at norwich, the 2-0 win against Sheff United, Plymouth 5-0. The reaction is SO strong after a poor performance home or away, and we simply don't get a positive reaction after a good one. A draw away, on its own merit, even after a poor performance, is probably not as much the end of the world as being reported. The fans need something to shout about at the Turf, and to be fair it's not been great. We might get a little less nuttiness on here after an away draw then

It's because it is so incredibly dull and it is not an isolated occasion. I think a growing number of fans are just fed up of it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:19 pm**

I reckon if I'd have not been staying in Portsmouth tonight I'd have just topped myself to save the drive home

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:19 pm**

Not sure it is hysteria. It's mind-numbingly boring, there's no real reason for it to be, and it's getting worse.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:20 pm**

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:41 pm
It’s not hysteria. That’s a strange take.

It’s frustration at Groundhog Day.

It’s boring. Really boring! And it’s happening all the time.

Wasn't boring at Plymouth!

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:21 pm**

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:18 pm
Fair, but if we sign Marcus Edwards he is not going to play backwards constantly, nor can he be left on the bench. It wouldn’t be a safety first signing. In fact it will be the most exciting signing I can remember.

Seems to me the issue isn’t not wanting to win, it is Parker not having the players creative or spontaneous enough to do what he wants, and vitally, within the framework he needs them to play in (which is why Benson won’t be his preferred option).

It is why this window is vital.

It’ll be interesting to see how Edwards is used if he does sign. It’s something of a marquee signing for a Championship club and you’d expect him to be starting before long. I can’t pretend I’ve seen much off him, but from what little I’ve read he’s not the type of player who is going to do much defensively, so you’d imagine the handbrake might need to be released slightly to get our moneys worth.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:22 pm**

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:19 pm
Not sure it is hysteria. It's mind-numbingly boring, there's no real reason for it to be, and it's getting worse.

Calling it boring isn’t hysteria, no.

Calling for Parker’s head and calling our promotion chances laughable is.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:23 pm**

Leisure wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:20 pm
Wasn't boring at Plymouth!

That's not exactly a high bar though Pete tbf.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:23 pm**

It’s more like pyromania tbh. He’s foolin’ us all that we are trying to win and I even managed a photograph of the shot we had today.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:24 pm**

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:19 pm
I reckon if I'd have not been staying in Portsmouth tonight I'd have just topped myself to save the drive home

Get a grip. Some people have far more important things going on in their lives than a 0-0 game of football

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:24 pm**

Its not pretty but to be top 3 in jan with a great chance of automatic is fantastic.

5-0 at plymouth uptheclarets dead. 0-0 at Portsmouth and the drama queens are out in force.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:25 pm**

TPClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:24 pm
Get a grip. Some people have far more important things going on in their lives than a 0-0 game of football

Nah

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:26 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:37 pm
Calm down folks. It’s not pretty and there’s improvement required, but we’re unbeaten in 17 and only 3 points off 2nd place.

There’s no need for “Parker in or out” polls on X or FAB members saying things like “we’re in a mess” and “automatic promotion feels like an absolute laughable aim”. That kind of thing is ridiculous.

It’s ok to not be a fan of the style of football (it’s not my cup of tea either), but some of the histrionics are the only thing “laughable” about what’s going on at the moment.

This level of impatience won’t help us if it filters onto the pitch on Tuesday after 20 minutes when we inevitably encounter another low block.

Sadly its the day and age we live in, hysteria is becoming the norm for just about everything on social media as it requires the histrionics to fuel the fire as bad news sells.

Stay calm and carry on.

We have had plenty of hysteria on here in the last 6 months, but we are still in the hunt.

An away day at Pompey is never easy and by all accounts they came at us and we did well to get a point.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:27 pm**

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:25 pm
Nah

Good for you

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:27 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:22 pm
Calling it boring isn’t hysteria, no.

Calling for Parker’s head and calling our promotion chances laughable is.

Laughable is clearly an overstatement but I'd be happy if he was sacked as it would mean I could start looking forward to watching us.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:30 pm**

winsomeyen wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:00 pm
Teams get 11 men behind the ball as we are too slow in our build up.

Dosent seem to bother Leeds much when teams do that get saved up for the play offs that's where we are heading.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:30 pm**

Wow sacking a manager when we are third in the league.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:31 pm**

Hysteria btw, let’s pretend like we haven’t seen this kind of negative performance before. It was just a one off eh?

We were time wasting in the first half btw

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