• Trafford Egan Riley and Esteve end of season values?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:15 pm**

The heart of our record breaking defense are all aged under 23 and have played in the vast majority of our league games this season All 3 will undoubtedly improve with time and experience So the question is what are they worth as individual players and are they worth more as the best defensive unit in football?

Trafford. 25m ?
Egan Riley 30m ?
Esteve 30m

Unit 100m ?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:18 pm**

I’ll be amazed if Manchester City don’t activate their buy-back for Trafford.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:20 pm**

Egan Riley leaves for free.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:21 pm**

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:15 pm
The heart of our record breaking defense are all aged under 23 and have played in the vast majority of our league games this season All 3 will undoubtedly improve with time and experience So the question is what are they worth as individual players and are they worth more as the best defensive unit in football?

Trafford. 25m ?
Egan Riley 30m ?
Esteve 30m

Unit 100m ?

Hard to put a value on Egan-Riley right now with him being out of contract in the summer

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:23 pm**

loganking222 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:20 pm
Egan Riley leaves for free.

His age should prevent this even in the worst-case scenario

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:28 pm**

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:18 pm
I’ll be amazed if Manchester City don’t activate their buy-back for Trafford.

How much was the buy back?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:32 pm**

I think the club will be looking for more than £30 million for Esteve and if he carries on in his current form I can see us getting it. Hoping of course we can keep him.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:33 pm**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:28 pm
How much was the buy back?

Supposedly 3x the fee we paid. So would be around the £42 million mark.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:35 pm**

The simple fact is if we don’t go up, none of those three will be with us come our first game of next season.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:35 pm**

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:18 pm
I’ll be amazed if Manchester City don’t activate their buy-back for Trafford.

How would/ is the figure calculated to “buy back” or is it already in the contract when he signed for us.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:36 pm**

nyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:35 pm
The simple fact is if we don’t go up, none of those three will be with us come our first game of next season.

No. The simple fact is that one of those 3 leave for nothing.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:36 pm**

beddie wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:35 pm
How would/ is the figure calculated to “buy back” or is it already in the contract when he signed for us.

Supposedly 3x the fee we paid. So would be around the £42 million mark.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:44 pm**

taio wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:23 pm
His age should prevent this even in the worst-case scenario

This is pretty low. Only around 300k if it came to that.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:48 pm**

loganking222 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:36 pm
No. The simple fact is that one of those 3 leave for nothing.

So you think Trafford and Esteve will both playing for us in the Championship next season if we don’t go up?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:50 pm**

nyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:48 pm
So you think Trafford and Esteve will both playing for us in the Championship next season if we don’t go up?

No. The OP is clearly suggesting/asking what fee we are going to get. We'll get naff all for CJ - maybe 200000-30000 if we're lucky with compensation. He's out of contract.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:57 pm**

Am I right in saying if/when Egan-Riley leaves on a free that there will be a tribunal to determine how much compensation we get?

If that’s the case, it will be better than nothing, but nowhere near his value if he were on a 4-year contract.
Esteve will probably go for £20-25 million, but I don’t think we’ll get £30.
Trafford - it’s becoming increasingly clear that this lad is going right to the top, and I reckon he’s England’s number one within the next 2-3 years IMO. However, keepers valuations are often a strange one so I genuinely have no idea what we would get for him other than to say we’ll get more than what we paid for him.

All 3 players remaining will require promotion, because I can’t see any of them hanging around if we don’t and Pace will want/need the money to cover the shortfall in Premier League income. For me, this is why I’m so frustrated with watching 0-0 bore draws, some of which we never looked like scoring in! FFS Parker, grow some balls and take the feckin handbrake off!!!

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:04 pm**

I think it's fair to say Worral will be the Egan Riley replacement if we don't go up, he was brought in to be first choice.
The left centre back one would be interesting, surely Ekdal deserves a chance but he and Worral are a bit samey. So it could be a partnership of Worrall/Humphries and we spend a chunk of the Esteve cash on a left back and striker.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:09 pm**

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:15 pm
The heart of our record breaking defense are all aged under 23 and have played in the vast majority of our league games this season All 3 will undoubtedly improve with time and experience So the question is what are they worth as individual players and are they worth more as the best defensive unit in football?

Trafford. 25m ?
Egan Riley 30m ?
Esteve 30m

Unit 100m ?

Trafford will be worth £35m+ at least getting in to the realm where City’s buyback will start to look good value for them.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:25 pm**

I wouldn't be surprised to see City come back in for both Trafford and Egan Riley.

They didn't want CJ to leave in the first place and can get him back on the cheap

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:25 pm**

I would imagine there will be a queue for both Trafford and Esteve. Chelsea are desperate for a keeper so that might help raise the price for Trafford

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:40 pm**

A club like Chelsea could do a lot worse than buy the unit. 3 X 1 = 4 or 5 in this scenario

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:41 pm**

It will be interesting to see how they get on in a non hyper defensive team.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:00 pm**

Goliath wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:04 pm
I think it's fair to say Worral will be the Egan Riley replacement if we don't go up, he was brought in to be first choice.
The left centre back one would be interesting, surely Ekdal deserves a chance but he and Worral are a bit samey. So it could be a partnership of Worrall/Humphries and we spend a chunk of the Esteve cash on a left back and striker.

Do we know if Beyer will be fit for the start of next season?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:23 pm**

Can we please just enjoy them whilst they are still here before we start getting them sold off?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:44 pm**

Nixon saying Everton want Esteve, but I think there might be a queue for him and they won't be top.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:50 pm**

loganking222 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:36 pm
No. The simple fact is that one of those 3 leave for nothing.

Similar situation to when Danny Ings left for Liverpool. I believe we got in the region of £7m? Some ten years ago via tribunal.

We’ll get a few million quid at least, I think he’ll sign a new contract with us anyway.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:52 pm**

[quote=SirBob post_id=2509812 time=1739724610 user_id=7585]
We’ll get a few million quid at least, I think he’ll sign a new contract with us anyway.
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I hope so buddy. Sign a new contract for the club's benefit and then receive a big fee for him. Trafford, Roberts, ER and Esteve then all leave during the summer.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:59 pm**

loganking222 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:52 pm
I hope so buddy. Sign a new contract for the club's benefit and then receive a big fee for him. Trafford, Roberts, ER and Esteve then all leave during the summer.

Don't forger Brownhill.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm**

If we could get £60m for the 3 the club would be delighted.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:32 pm**

What a player is worth and what someone will pay are very different.

Steve is probably worth 25ish (not proven in the prem really) but I’d imagine if we go up with a record breaking defence that narrative could push it to 35/40 especially if there are multiple interested parties. The fact he is left footed adds about 7-10m for me they are rare at the top level.

CJ is worth nothing, any compensation would be minimal and we would probably owe City a chunk of it too as they “developed him”. With a contract signed I’d imagine he is worth 20/25 to someone down the bottom half of the prem, it’s hard to determine his ceiling without seeing him in the prem really. Hopefully we might be able to get him tied down with a great big pay rise and a sensible release clause.

Trafford, I wouldn’t entertain less than 40-45m. His ceiling is very high, he’s English and has played at every age group and i imagine soon at senior level. He can play with his feet, still only 22 and by the end of the season will be heading towards 150 league appearances. City would be mad not to activate the buy back given the way they have chopped and changed keepers this season, although other factors will be at play and he would be a risk if elevated to that level too soon.

Lots of money coming in potentially however if we don’t go up and loose all 3 that will be a massive concern no matter how much we get.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:59 pm**

JR1882 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:32 pm
What a player is worth and what someone will pay are very different.

Steve is probably worth 25ish (not proven in the prem really) but I’d imagine if we go up with a record breaking defence that narrative could push it to 35/40 especially if there are multiple interested parties. The fact he is left footed adds about 7-10m for me they are rare at the top level.

CJ is worth nothing, any compensation would be minimal and we would probably owe City a chunk of it too as they “developed him”. With a contract signed I’d imagine he is worth 20/25 to someone down the bottom half of the prem, it’s hard to determine his ceiling without seeing him in the prem really. Hopefully we might be able to get him tied down with a great big pay rise and a sensible release clause.

Trafford, I wouldn’t entertain less than 40-45m. His ceiling is very high, he’s English and has played at every age group and i imagine soon at senior level. He can play with his feet, still only 22 and by the end of the season will be heading towards 150 league appearances. City would be mad not to activate the buy back given the way they have chopped and changed keepers this season, although other factors will be at play and he would be a risk if elevated to that level too soon.

Lots of money coming in potentially however if we don’t go up and loose all 3 that will be a massive concern no matter how much we get.

*lose

Trafford won't get near 40-45 and it will come down to future sales.

A question for everybody else: If we don't go up will we have enough to challenge next season?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:47 pm**

kwwden wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:59 pm
*lose

Trafford won't get near 40-45 and it will come down to future sales.

A question for everybody else: If we don't go up will we have enough to challenge next season?

Trafford really will go for that region.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:48 pm**

A question for everybody else: If we don't go up will we have enough to challenge next season?
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We will be without the 3 players named in the Op, and without Brownhill,, so probably not.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:20 pm**

loganking222 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:36 pm
No. The simple fact is that one of those 3 leave for nothing.

I don’t think that’s true

Are we not entitled to some kind of compensation? (unless he leaves to a European team) like we got £8m for Ings.

The Ings fee was a long time ago too, the market has undoubtably gone up since.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:38 pm**

Citeh defo need a new keeper. Did you see Ederson v Real last week? He’s been a good one, but certainly cost Citeh the game, being badly at fault for Reals’ last 2 goals.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:16 pm**

I’ve said that Trafford is going to be Englands next number one. Got pelters.

Said that Trafford has always known where he was going next.

Said that Trafford was a FFP signing rather than a loan signing.

Defended him last year when people were embarrassingly clueless about him.

Will take his best mate with him to replace Ake. Not sure.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:54 pm**

If we see £50m for the 3 then that seems ok - unless a club is desperate for one of them.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:14 pm**

LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:54 pm
If we see £50m for the 3 then that seems ok - unless a club is desperate for one of them.

That would be very poor business.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:27 am**

One thing Alan Pace has proven is that he knows our players value. Everton and their very creative accountants should be banned from signing anyone.But either way Max is worth North of £40m and Traff similar. CJ is a problem unless we give him a new deal

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:22 am**

I’d no idea about the CJ no contract thing which very likely means we’ll lose him for almost nothing . He’ll surely attract interest from better payers even after we’re promoted ? Steve is a great asset but again we have to accept financial reality .

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:34 am**

by nyclaret » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:35 pm

The simple fact is if we don’t go up, none of those three will be with us come our first game of next season.

Even if we get promoted, I can't see more than one of those still being with us, if any!... Maybe Esteve for a bit longer if we're very lucky!

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:56 am**

You would have to look at how the contracts are structured and more importantly the payments. Esteve was only signed this season so I guess he will have a good lump of the initial outstanding and Trafford last season will be the same.

Both will likely to be sold anyway if we don't get promoted because they will likely have relatively expensive contracts and we run out of parachute money at the end of next season.

And as Barnacle Bill says above the issue is whether the squad will be as strong if we don't get promoted. Hopefully we get promoted and none of these things come into play.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:11 am**

loganking222 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:50 pm
No. The OP is clearly suggesting/asking what fee we are going to get. We'll get naff all for CJ - maybe 200000-30000 if we're lucky with compensation. He's out of contract.

Just like we only got £7million for Ings when he left OOC to Liverpool, but under 23?

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:46 am**

loganking222 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:44 pm
This is pretty low. Only around 300k if it came to that.

What are you basing just £300k on?

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:06 am**

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:27 am
One thing Alan Pace has proven is that he knows our players value. Everton and their very creative accountants should be banned from signing anyone.But either way Max is worth North of £40m and Traff similar. CJ is a problem unless we give him a new deal

He might know what their true value is but it all depends what we are offered. Because of the debts we have buying teams will know we have to sell if we don't get promoted. Beggars can't be choosers.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:23 am**

kwwden wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:59 pm
*lose

Trafford won't get near 40-45 and it will come down to future sales.

A question for everybody else: If we don't go up will we have enough to challenge next season?

Still the basis of a pretty good Championship side. Ekdal/Worrall and Humphreys centre back options. Clear out more of the deadwood and make a few sensible signings i`m confident we be challenging again.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:10 pm**

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:23 am
Still the basis of a pretty good Championship side. Ekdal/Worrall and Humphreys centre back options. Clear out more of the deadwood and make a few sensible signings i`m confident we be challenging again.

Not convinced by that, I don’t see us paying the £13m option to keep Humphreys if we don’t go up.

We’d be losing, Trafford, Roberts, Brownhill, CJ, Esteve, Shelvey, Edwards, Anthony, Humphreys, Barnes.

Not sure on the situation with Flemming but if we can’t get automatically promoted with this current group it’s wishful thinking to assume we would with a considerably weaker lot.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:19 pm**

You’d have to be incredibly short sighted not take the option on Humphries, he’s going to be one of our most valuable assets in a few years time. Even if we just signed him and immediately sold him it would be the better option than letting him head back to Chelsea.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:38 pm**

SirBob wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:19 pm
You’d have to be incredibly short sighted not take the option on Humphries, he’s going to be one of our most valuable assets in a few years time. Even if we just signed him and immediately sold him it would be the better option than letting him head back to Chelsea.

I agree but we appeared to be pretty skint last summer, I don’t see that getting better next summer.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:45 pm**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:10 pm
Not convinced by that, I don’t see us paying the £13m option to keep Humphreys if we don’t go up.

We’d be losing, Trafford, Roberts, Brownhill, CJ, Esteve, Shelvey, Edwards, Anthony, Humphreys, Barnes.

Not sure on the situation with Flemming but if we can’t get automatically promoted with this current group it’s wishful thinking to assume we would with a considerably weaker lot.

Humphreys was reported by the BBC and others as an obligation:

https://x.com/nizaarkinsella/status/182 ... 17489?s=46

Flemming is an obligation for £7m:

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/mi ... on-to-buy/

No idea what would happen next season, but we’d have Aaron Ramsey available, Jordan Beyer available, and probably see Bauress/Banel + others in and around it, which I find exciting.

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