He’s stood down as England white ball captain

A good decision, excellent 1 day batsman but very poor captain. Replacement will be difficult to find

CleggHall wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:07 pm

A good decision, excellent 1 day batsman but very poor captain. Replacement will be difficult to find

I don’t agree he’s a poor captain, he’s just taken over during a period of transition.

Decent player on his day but they have been few and far between over recent years.

The only trouble with cricket captaincy, is that it rarely comes available when things are going well.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:20 pm

I don’t agree he’s a poor captain, he’s just taken over during a period of transition.

So who’s responsible for the lack of preparation, playing golf instead of nets and picking players who haven’t played before ?

Casper2 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:01 pm

So who’s responsible for the lack of preparation, playing golf instead of nets and picking players who haven’t played before ?

I would think the coaches and whoever selects the players.

Never heard of him.

Jos did a decent job. We need to stop selecting our best players and making them captains, it doesn’t come naturally to many. Mike Brearley was one of our best captains but a long way off being our best player.

Casper2 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:01 pm

So who’s responsible for the lack of preparation, playing golf instead of nets and picking players who haven’t played before ?

Every England player had a net the day before the game,they even gave this out on the commentary.
The biggest problem was the selection of too many similar bowlers, not enough variation, and under performance with the bat from many players.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:02 pm

I would think the coaches and whoever selects the players.

To me it's far deeper than that. Under McCullum there is zero consequences for poor shot selection and game management.

This goes right back to the Ashes where we were pulverising the Aussies, and out of desperation they went to bowling shortt pitched stuff, and about 5 of our batmen all got out out of pure arrogance and hideous game management, duck and dive for an hour and we'd have probably won that test.

It's the same in the 1 day arena, players like salt and Livingstone completely flatter to deceive, they hit a couple of decent shots then play a shot a club cricketer would regret and somehow retain their places game after game.

Root showed exactly how to bat in a 50 over game against Afghanistan, problem is there's very few who have that temperament, or the application to bat like that...and the bowling...don't even get me started

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:54 pm

To me it's far deeper than that. Under McCullum there is zero consequences for poor shot selection and game management.

This goes right back to the Ashes where we were pulverising the Aussies, and out of desperation they went to bowling shortt pitched stuff, and about 5 of our batmen all got out out of pure arrogance and hideous game management, duck and dive for an hour and we'd have probably won that test.

It's the same in the 1 day arena, players like salt and Livingstone completely flatter to deceive, they hit a couple of decent shots then play a shot a club cricketer would regret and somehow retain their places game after game.

Root showed exactly how to bat in a 50 over game against Afghanistan, problem is there's very few who have that temperament, or the application to bat like that...and the bowling...don't even get me started

Someone will be along shortly to ask if you'd rather watch Chris Tavare.

Stevie2112 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:33 pm

Every England player had a net the day before the game,they even gave this out on the commentary.
The biggest problem was the selection of too many similar bowlers, not enough variation, and under performance with the bat from many players.

Didn’t have any before India series

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:02 pm

I would think the coaches and whoever selects the players.

Which the Captain is part of as you well know.

Casper2 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:59 pm

Which the Captain is part of as you well know.

I don't well know sorry

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:54 pm

To me it's far deeper than that. Under McCullum there is zero consequences for poor shot selection and game management.

This goes right back to the Ashes where we were pulverising the Aussies, and out of desperation they went to bowling shortt pitched stuff, and about 5 of our batmen all got out out of pure arrogance and hideous game management, duck and dive for an hour and we'd have probably won that test.

It's the same in the 1 day arena, players like salt and Livingstone completely flatter to deceive, they hit a couple of decent shots then play a shot a club cricketer would regret and somehow retain their places game after game.

Root showed exactly how to bat in a 50 over game against Afghanistan, problem is there's very few who have that temperament, or the application to bat like that...and the bowling...don't even get me started

Totally agree.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:36 pm

Someone will be along shortly to ask if you'd rather watch Chris Tavare.

Played with him at Somerset..Believe it or not he hit the ball harder than anybody at the club..