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Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:00 pm
by Stonehouse
Can we have him every week?

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:01 pm
by Pickles
It benefited us but he was rrrrrubbish.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:06 pm
by Ptgclaret
First time I've ever thought that a ref was a Burnley fan.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:08 pm
by Aclaret
Man of the match for me.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:18 pm
by Vegas Claret
What decisions did he get wrong ? They could have had a pen for the challenge by Sarmiento but other than that what were his glaring errors ? I know we go loads of decisions but that's because Luton kept fouling

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:42 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
Certainly nice to be on the right side of it for a change.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:42 pm
by Taffy on the wing
He's a complete idiot!......bless him.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:53 pm
by morninbob
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:18 pm
What decisions did he get wrong ? They could have had a pen for the challenge by Sarmiento but other than that what were his glaring errors ? I know we go loads of decisions but that's because Luton kept fouling
Most of the bookings for a kick off...

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:56 pm
by Vegas Claret
morninbob wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:53 pm
Most of the bookings for a kick off...
really ? which ones do you reckon he got wrong ?

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:31 pm
by morninbob
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:56 pm
really ? which ones do you reckon he got wrong ?
The red, arm across Edwards, pires, Cullen.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:33 pm
by Vegas Claret
morninbob wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:31 pm
The red, arm across Edwards, pires, Cullen.
I guess you were at the game and didn't have the luxury of replays

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:30 pm
by JimmyRobbo
I think virtually all decisiions were correct.

Perhaps Sarmiento got away with one for the penalty but everything else seemed right.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:18 pm
by Goliath
The Sarmiento kick to the face was one of the most blatant penalties I've seen all season. Genuinely dreadful decision.

Also thought the ball had gone out for the 2nd goal but was pretty tight

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:21 pm
by ClaretAndJew
One of their players elbowed Benson in the face in front of the linesman.

Nothing given. Benson was furious.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:24 pm
by Goobs
2nd goal is on the linesman.

Yeah probably got the Sarmiento one wrong but I was over 100 yards away so he had a better view than I did.

Red was definitely a 2nd yellow so right call.

Think he got most of the smaller stuff right which is all you can ask for really.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:37 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Did Edwards take the ball over the line before we scored the 3rd?

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:47 pm
by NewClaret
Would have to watch the Sarmiento challenge back. Didn’t look like he made contact live, but if he did it could be a wrong decision. Else thought he got everything spot on.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:55 pm
by Woodleyclaret
An excellent performance

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:03 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
A Rolls Royce compared to that idiot on Tuesday, granted it's a low bar set

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:07 pm
by Rick_Muller
I was fairly close to the Sarmiento alleged kick to the face and I’m fairly confident that there was little or no contact with the Luton player, and I didn’t even think it was his face either. Luton chap took an age to go down and remember to hold his face.

Happy to be proven wrong though if I see it again on TV

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:03 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:37 pm
Did Edwards take the ball over the line before we scored the 3rd?
Just looked at the highlights, and to answer my own question.....no it didn't cross the line.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:13 pm
by fatboy47
Generally our referees have just become such a succession of absolute jokers that it might soon make sense to just pick someone out of the crowd at ten to three.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:32 pm
by jlup1980
I'm not sure he was a "homer" as such, I just think Luton came to rough us up and the officials weren't going to allow them. The lad who got sent off let his team mates down massively. His first yellow was a blatant one, and the second was completely brain dead. Why jump into a tackle like that when you're on a yellow card? He didn't give the referee any other option. They could argue that Edwards carried the ball out of play, or that they should have had a penalty, but they were persistent in their fouling all afternoon so its not a surprise that the officials were giving us more than them!

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:57 am
by Vegas Claret
Rick_Muller wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:07 pm
I was fairly close to the Sarmiento alleged kick to the face and I’m fairly confident that there was little or no contact with the Luton player, and I didn’t even think it was his face either. Luton chap took an age to go down and remember to hold his face.

Happy to be proven wrong though if I see it again on TV
I concur, didn't look contact on the TV and from memory it was chest height too not face

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:00 am
by agreenwood
Red card = Thought it was the right decision. Even if Naismith gets a feint touch on the ball in the first tackle, you can’t challenge at thigh height meeting someone head-on and not expect a card. Second challenge was bonkers in the context of already being on a yellow. Brownhill is going back towards our goal and Naismith just lunges in.

Brownhill goal = Absolutely impossible to know from the replays I’ve seen. I always have in my mind now the Japan vs Spain World Cup goal with these ones. Without an overhead shot of the ball, we’ll never know.

Foster goal = Probably gets ruled out by VAR as it clearly hits Anthony’s arm in the immediate lead up to the goal. We got lucky with it.

Sarmiento tackle = Haven’t seen a replay, so no idea if there was contact, but my first thought in the ground was that it could be and I was cursing Sarmiento for making a high challenge like that in the box.

Generally thought the ref was quite generous towards us, although a few of the bookings we got were a little soft.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:02 am
by morninbob
agreenwood wrote:
Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:00 am
Red card = Thought it was the right decision. Even if Naismith gets a feint touch on the ball in the first tackle, you can’t challenge at thigh height meeting someone head-on and not expect a card. Second challenge was bonkers in the context of already being on a yellow. Brownhill is going back towards our goal and Naismith just lunges in.

Brownhill goal = Absolutely impossible to know from the replays I’ve seen. I always have in my mind now the Japan vs Spain World Cup goal with these ones. Without an overhead shot of the ball, we’ll never know.

Foster goal = Probably gets ruled out by VAR as it clearly hits his arm in the immediate lead up to the goal. We got lucky with it.

Sarmiento tackle = Haven’t seen a replay, so no idea if there was contact, but my first thought in the ground was that it could be and I was cursing Sarmiento for making a high challenge like that in the box.

Generally thought the ref was quite generous towards us, although a few of the bookings we got were a little soft.
I thought that they'd changed the car rules around hand ball, doesn't it have to hit the player who scores?

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:05 am
by agreenwood
morninbob wrote:
Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:02 am
I thought that they'd changed the car rules around hand ball, doesn't it have to hit the player who scores?
Pretty sure it’s the goalscorer or the player who assists, but happy to be corrected.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:09 am
by agreenwood
Actually morninbob, you might be right.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:31 am
by Bfc
I was left wondering why there was only 3 minutes added on time. In the 2nd half there were 8 substitutions, 3 bookings, play stopped for player injury treatment and 1 goal in normal time. My own prediction before the board went up, was for a minimum 5 mins.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:39 am
by Roosterbooster
agreenwood wrote:
Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:00 am
Brownhill goal = Absolutely impossible to know from the replays I’ve seen. I always have in my mind now the Japan vs Spain World Cup goal with these ones. Without an overhead shot of the ball, we’ll never know.

Foster goal = Probably gets ruled out by VAR as it clearly hits Anthony’s arm in the immediate lead up to the goal. We got lucky with it.

Sarmiento tackle = Haven’t seen a replay, so no idea if there was contact, but my first thought in the ground was that it could be and I was cursing Sarmiento for making a high challenge like that in the box
Brownhill goal - there's a perfect side on camera view on the extended highlights and it's very close, but certainly isn't 100% over the line

Foster goal - correct decision. It touches Anthony's arm. But it's not deliberate and its a natural position. As he wasn't the scorer, it isn't automatically ruled out

Sarmiento tackle - I thought pen at first but haven't seen it back and can't see any replays anywhere (Help)


Overall I thought the ref got lots wrong and favoured us
But there can be no complaints about the red card. The first yellow was an orange. The second yellow was downright thick

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:14 am
by Ric_C
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As Rooster says. It's probably 90% out, and the goal would've been given by VAR. Fair play to the lino as I'm sat pretty much directly behind him and we all thought it was out in real time.

Can see why Luton were miffed, but ultimately the correct decision was given.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:50 am
by JohnMac
It looked like the ball came off Anthony's hand before our 2nd goal.

No VAR to ruin it though :D

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:27 am
by gawthorpe_view
JohnMac wrote:
Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:50 am
It looked like the ball came off Anthony's hand before our 2nd goal.

No VAR to ruin it though :D
It bounced off the defender and hit Anthony's elbow.
His arm was by his side in a 'natural' position so not hand ball.

Probably.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:39 pm
by Bosscat
gawthorpe_view wrote:
Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:27 am
It bounced off the defender and hit Anthony's elbow.
His arm was by his side in a 'natural' position so not hand ball.

Probably.
That would depend who we were playing at the time 😉

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:16 pm
by mybloodisclaret
Goliath wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:18 pm
The Sarmiento kick to the face was one of the most blatant penalties I've seen all season. Genuinely dreadful decision.

Also thought the ball had gone out for the 2nd goal but was pretty tight
There was literally no contact. Not 1 single Luton player appealed. FFS.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:27 pm
by TsarBomba
In the lead up to our second, a Luton player tries to break out with the ball and the ref is directly in his path.

I would concur that most of the big decisions were correctly called, but we got lots of very soft free kicks that on another day we probably wouldn’t get.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:29 pm
by Goliath
mybloodisclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:16 pm
There was literally no contact. Not 1 single Luton player appealed. FFS.
I'd have to see again but on the replays I saw it looked absolutely nailed on. You can't have your foot that high.
Nani got sent off for less than that once against Real.Madrid

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:43 pm
by dougcollins
Rick_Muller wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:07 pm
I was fairly close to the Sarmiento alleged kick to the face and I’m fairly confident that there was little or no contact with the Luton player, and I didn’t even think it was his face either. Luton chap took an age to go down and remember to hold his face.

Happy to be proven wrong though if I see it again on TV
I thought he looked to be seriously milking it, and I assumed at the time there was no contact. Ref was a lot closer than me.

He got up pretty quick when it wasn't given.

Re: Referee

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:22 pm
by mybloodisclaret
I was in the CFS with a good view though he was a good 10 inch off his head.

Ref immediately said no, and not 1 single Luton player appealed. It was an opportunist fall, rightly ruled against.