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Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:20 pm
by Vegas Claret
I bet I wasn't the only one that thought when they went down to ten we might have it all on to break them down but we played really well, lots of off the ball work to create space and the work rate was superb. Really good stuff today. First home win against Luton for 30 years apparently
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:22 pm
by GetIntoEm
Let's not sugar coat it, they are absolutely dreadful, but we played them off the park. They could have easily been a national league team.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:26 pm
by Stonehouse
The last 5 goals we’ve scored have all been in the 6 yds box,the other from Brownhill at Cardiff was from about 10 yds .are we doing something different ?
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:27 pm
by Devils_Advocate
We did what we needed to do very well but lets not pretend that a home match against relegation fodder who played most of the game with 10 men wasn't about as easy as it gets in this division.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:29 pm
by boyyanno
It's amazing that we seem to keep playing the worst team in the league every weekend.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:37 pm
by Vegas Claret
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:27 pm
We did what we needed to do very well but lets not pretend that a home match against relegation fodder who played most of the game with 10 men wasn't about as easy as it gets in this division.
Not beaten them at home for 30 years, proper bogey side for us at the Turf. Good win, end of.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:37 pm
by Devils_Advocate
boyyanno wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:29 pm
It's amazing that we seem to keep playing the worst team in the league every weekend.
In our last 7 league games we've played 6 of the bottom 9 teams so its fair to say we've had a run of easier games. In contrast 6 of the next 8 is against top half of the table clubs so this what will really make or break our season.
I think we've looked good against the better sides so see no reason why the current run of great form doesn't continue
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:40 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:37 pm
Not beaten them at home for 30 years, proper bogey side for us at the Turf. Good win, end of.
Any wins a good win and we won well today. Historic records and so called bogey teams mean nothing and my only point was that in this division it wont get much easier than today. You've still got to turn up and convert and we did that comfortably so everyone should be happy
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:45 pm
by Stonehouse
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:27 pm
We did what we needed to do very well but lets not pretend that a home match against relegation fodder who played most of the game with 10 men wasn't about as easy as it gets in this division.
How many times have we struggled against crap teams with 10 men though? it’s always easier to defend than attack.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:49 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Stonehouse wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:45 pm
How many times have we struggled against crap teams with 10 men though? it’s always easier to defend than attack.
I've no idea but if you think them getting a player sent off made it harder for us then I think you're a fool. Saying its hard to play against 10 men is just an old cliché
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:54 pm
by claret wizard
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:27 pm
We did what we needed to do very well but lets not pretend that a home match against relegation fodder who played most of the game with 10 men wasn't about as easy as it gets in this division.
Leeds play tomorrow.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:56 pm
by Stonehouse
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:49 pm
I've no idea but if you think them getting a player sent off made it harder for us then I think you're a fool. Saying its hard to play against 10 men is just an old cliché
Ok Devil put your fishing tackle away I’m not falling for that old chestnut.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:58 pm
by ISpeds00
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:37 pm
In our last 7 league games we've played 6 of the bottom 9 teams so its fair to say we've had a run of easier games. In contrast 6 of the next 8 is against top half of the table clubs so this what will really make or break our season.
I think we've looked good against the better sides so see no reason why the current run of great form doesn't continue
There's nobody under the top 4 that's a threat
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:01 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Luton were dreadful there is no doubt about it but that’s not our problem.
We were the better team before the red and dominated after.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:01 pm
by Devils_Advocate
ISpeds00 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:58 pm
There's nobody under the top 4 that's a threat
I dont disagree but if you needed 3 pts for promotion on the last day of the season im sure you'd choose playing one of Luton, Hull or Oxford over one of West Brom, Coventry and Norwich
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:02 pm
by Murger
Easy as it gets. Lovely jubbly.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:26 pm
by warksclaret
boyyanno wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:29 pm
It's amazing that we seem to keep playing the worst team in the league every weekend.
Only another 10 shocking teams to go at
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:32 pm
by expoultryboy
It'll be a much harder test on Tuesday .
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:52 pm
by Vim Fuego
Luton not great. But it was a good day at the office for us. We did our thing very well. And another clean sheet.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:56 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
11 men it would have been 1-0
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:57 pm
by AlargeClaret
We played perfectly well against a raggedly poor 10man Luton . Hard to grade players in a game like this ,but the job we needed ,ie must win and move on . We just can’t afford any slip ups .
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:16 pm
by JohnDearyMe
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:37 pm
Not beaten them at home for 30 years, proper bogey side for us at the Turf. Good win, end of.
I saw that 1995 was our last home win against them before today which is some going. Any idea how many times we've played them during that time?
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:18 pm
by BurnleyFC
First half was like a training exercise, second half we played some sublime stuff.
Great performance.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:28 pm
by ecc
JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:16 pm
I saw that 1995 was our last home win against them before today which is some going. Any idea how many times we've played them during that time?
Eight I believe.
Bit of karma after last season's farcical refereeing at the end of the match.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:31 pm
by Burnley1989
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:37 pm
In our last 7 league games we've played 6 of the bottom 9 teams so its fair to say we've had a run of easier games. In contrast 6 of the next 8 is against top half of the table clubs so this what will really make or break our season.
I think we've looked good against the better sides so see no reason why the current run of great form doesn't continue
How've we got on again st the top 2.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:33 pm
by Vim Fuego
That's the spirit. Win 4 nil with a lot of positives about the performance, but there is always an opportunity to fire a dig in there somewhere
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:38 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
I think the main difference is we are just seeing our better players recieve the ball higher up the pitch in more space.
Plus we have also increased our quality in the final third.
Edwards made a few sloppy passes but he makes up for it with that real extra quality in the final third.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:39 pm
by GetIntoEm
Can you believe this fixture last year was a must win. Shows how well we've done
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:42 pm
by boatshed bill
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:49 pm
I've no idea but if you think them getting a player sent off made it harder for us then I think you're a fool. Saying its hard to play against 10 men is just an old cliché
Well not exactly a cliche, DA,
It's generally seen as difficult in a game where the scores are level or the team who lose a man are winning because the team with ten shut down their attacking intent, so becoming harder to break down.
Obvious, is it not?
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:42 pm
by Ptangyangkipperbang
My little slant on today I always say Refs should be stronger in the early part of games with challenges worthy of a booking instead of a talking to it sets a president although in the Lutons player today it didn't and he got what he deserved.Lets not forget Cullen got an early booking as well.We again created enough chances to score far more goals and missed at least three where it looked easier to score.From where I was sat the ball was certainly in play for the third goal.And finally I've had a couple of beers which I don't normally so in the nicest possible term DA your a knob
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:45 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
But...but...but....
F*ck me some of you lot sound like you've got an outboard motor attached to your back
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:49 pm
by lakesider
Having a referee that wouldn't stand for their physical/dirty approach helped enormously. They came up here to bully us and nick one off a set piece. All in all a very good performance. I disagree with some of the above. Luton are still quick and accurate with their passing in the main. Outstanding performances from us but particularly Edwards, Cullen, CJ, Lyle, Pires and Roberts. Clever cameo pieces from Sarmiento and Redmond also who showed some vision. Hannibal, Browny and Edwards rested for Tuesday as well. A good day!
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:10 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
lakesider wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:49 pm
Having a referee that wouldn't stand for their physical/dirty approach helped enormously. They came up here to bully us and nick one off a set piece. All in all a very good performance. I disagree with some of the above. Luton are still quick and accurate with their passing in the main. Outstanding performances from us but particularly Edwards, Cullen, CJ, Lyle, Pires and Roberts. Clever cameo pieces from Sarmiento and Redmond also who showed some vision. Hannibal, Browny and Edwards rested for Tuesday as well. A good day!
It's bonkers to think we had him a couple of weeks ago and he was useless ( Steve Martin)
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:50 pm
by Stonehouse
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:10 pm
It's bonkers to think we had him a couple of weeks ago and he was useless ( Steve Martin)
Can’t have been that bad when we had thrashed the Owls.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:51 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:57 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:37 pm
In our last 7 league games we've played 6 of the bottom 9 teams so its fair to say we've had a run of easier games. In contrast 6 of the next 8 is against top half of the table clubs so this what will really make or break our season.
I think we've looked good against the better sides so see no reason why the current run of great form doesn't continue
And yet our record against the top 4 ( 6 ) is exemplary
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:01 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Stonehouse wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:50 pm
Can’t have been that bad when we had thrashed the Owls.
His marks I think we're quite low ( admittedly from memory)
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:02 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Not at all because you have form of late for posting some reyt tripe
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:11 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:02 pm
Not at all because you have form of late for posting some reyt tripe
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Don’t worry yourself over it pal.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:25 pm
by ClaretLoup
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:49 pm
I've no idea but if you think them getting a player sent off made it harder for us then I think you're a fool. Saying its hard to play against 10 men is just an old cliché
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Burnley played against 10 men vs Sunderland away and Rovers at home, how did those games go?
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:30 pm
by Stonehouse
Please do not let Devils Advocate wind you up ,the clues in the name as he’s really a very nice person.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:41 pm
by Boss Hogg
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:22 pm
Let's not sugar coat it, they are absolutely dreadful, but we played them off the park. They could have easily been a national league team.
No they couldn’t.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:50 pm
by Devils_Advocate
ClaretLoup wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:25 pm
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Burnley played against 10 men vs Sunderland away and Rovers at home, how did those games go?
You're seriously comparing Sunderland losing a player with 5 mins to go with Luton losing a player on 19 mins?
There was actually a study carried bu someone at Nottingham University in 2015 to test the theory that its harder to play against 10 men. The study looked at 1520 Premier League matches between 2009 and 2013 and unsurprisingly it found that it wasn't actually harder to play against 10 men.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34350828
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:54 pm
by Longsider
boyyanno wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:29 pm
It's amazing that we seem to keep playing the worst team in the league every weekend.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:58 pm
by boatshed bill
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:50 pm
You're seriously comparing Sunderland losing a player with 5 mins to go with Luton losing a player on 19 mins?
There was actually a study carried bu someone at Nottingham University in 2015 to test the theory that its harder to play against 10 men. The study looked at 1520 Premier League matches between 2009 and 2013 and unsurprisingly it found that it wasn't actually harder to play against 10 men.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34350828
It proves very little in terms of individual matches though.
When it rains most people outside get wet.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:07 pm
by Devils_Advocate
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:58 pm
It proves very little in terms of individual matches though.
When it rains most people outside get wet.
Yep and when a sh*t team goes down to 10 men after 19 mins they become a lot easier to beat.
Not sure what's remotely controversial about anything I've said on this thread. I've said we've played well, won comfortably and put Luton to bed but Im not getting overexcited to the point of thinking beating 23rd in the league at home with them reduced to 10 men within the first 20 mins as anything special.
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:10 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
I don't, just saying "noted"
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:11 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Stonehouse wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:30 pm
Please do not let Devils Advocate wind you up ,the clues in the name as he’s really a very nice person.
We all know he's a plank
Re: Proper performance
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:00 pm
by Silkyskills1
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:49 pm
I've no idea but if you think them getting a player sent off made it harder for us then I think you're a fool. Saying its hard to play against 10 men is just an old cliché
You're dead right. I've yet to see a team start with 10 players to make it harder for the opposition.
