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Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:10 am
by ClaretTony
1920/21 - 30 games
2024/25 - 24 games
2015/16 - 23 games
2022/23 - 22 games
1981/82 - 20 games

When I saw the 23 nine years ago I never thought I'd see us get close to that again - then we got within one two seasons ago and now beaten it. All the five above are remarkable runs.

We might be disappointed tonight not to have won but we shouldn't be given the run we are on.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:18 am
by martin_p
Wonder if we can challenge the famous 30 games.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:30 am
by Tricky Trevor
I’d been going to start a thread asking folks favourite of the last 3.
This one isn’t close but tight between the other two. I’m just edging towards SDs because it was unfinished and the incredible euphoria after the late draws at BHA and home to Boro.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:10 am
by Quicknick
Plenty of people on here complaining, despite this run.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:50 am
by Clive 1960
Quicknick wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:10 am
Plenty of people on here complaining, despite this run.
It's brilliant that we are unbeaten but when we need to change things it's like for like and no better , i for one said we needed a striker in January to get us over the line and if Foster is out for a week or two we have only Fleming and Barnes now.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:40 am
by Quicknick
Clive 1960 wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:50 am
It's brilliant that we are unbeaten but when we need to change things it's like for like and no better , i for one said we needed a striker in January to get us over the line and if Foster is out for a week or two we have only Fleming and Barnes now.
I agree a striker would have been ideal, but who?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:26 am
by Vegas Claret
incredible run

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:56 am
by Clive 1960
Quicknick wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:40 am
I agree a striker would have been ideal, but who?
when i heard Adam Armstrong was available on loan i thought we would be all over it because of his record in the Championship and he has pace i was seen last night when he should have scored..

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:26 am
by agreenwood
Brilliant run. More than half a season unbeaten now.

Doesn’t matter what level you’re at or how big your budget is, it’s still a very hard thing to do.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:36 am
by steve1264b
Its a great run and things are so tight, in the last 6 games we've only pulled one point back on both Leeds and Sheffield U.

Someone in the top 3 is going to to hit a bad run at a bad time.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:47 am
by CaptJohn
Fabulous run for sure.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:14 am
by jlup1980
steve1264b wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:36 am
Its a great run and things are so tight, in the last 6 games we've only pulled one point back on both Leeds and Sheffield U.

Someone in the top 3 is going to to hit a bad run at a bad time.
Exactly my thoughts. I keep expecting Sheff U to lose, but they keep on grinding out results even when they're not playing well (which, when you listen to their fans, seems to be most weeks!). Bristol City had 60% possession and 23 shots last night, yet it took a last minute goal to earn them a point. If we can beat Swansea on Saturday it puts pressure on them to get a result in the Sheffield derby. Wednesday are no mugs, so it should be a humdinger!

Our 24 game run is a fantastic achievement. Hopefully we can push for the club record and break into the top two as a result.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am
by Buxtonclaret
Was it Arsenal that finally beat that 30 game run?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:31 am
by mdd2
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am
Was it Arsenal that finally beat that 30 game run?
Wasn’t it Man City?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:32 am
by Buxtonclaret
mdd2 wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:31 am
Wasn’t it Man City?
I can't remember.
Only that our record stood for years.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:57 am
by aggi
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am
Was it Arsenal that finally beat that 30 game run?
Yes, in their unbeaten season.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:01 am
by Colburn_Claret
I think it was Arsenal

DL were on to break it under Revie. They had to stay unbeaten against Stoke to tie it, and then avoid defeat against us to break it. Stoke beat them anyway, and the following week we stuffed them 4-1 at ER courtesy of Fletchers overhead kick.

Or at least that's how I remember it.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:05 am
by Spijed
I think Forest hold the longest unbeaten run (over two seasons) of 42 matches

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:07 am
by ElectroClaret
Don't know if it's still a record, but Leeds had a 34 game unbeaten run around the 1969-70 season,
that extended into the following season.

Might not be those dates, but it was around then, I'm sure.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:09 am
by Burnley1989
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am
Was it Arsenal that finally beat that 30 game run?
Arsenal Invincibles team in 03/04, they went all season without losing.

What a side by the way

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:11 am
by Buxtonclaret
Yep. Cheers, Aggi/'89

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:34 am
by morninbob
I would rather lose a game and be promoted than have an unbeaten run.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:45 am
by ClaretTony
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am
Was it Arsenal that finally beat that 30 game run?
Indeed it was. I remember Leeds having gone 29 in 1973/74 and 2-0 up at Stoke in the next game before losing 3-2. I think Liverpool also got within a game too.

Arsenal, of course, did 38 when they went through the season unbeaten.

Forest held the record for going unbeaten over two seasons but our record was in one season, more remarkable given we lost the first three games prior to that thirty.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:55 am
by matttheclaret
Arsenal went 49 over 3 seasons didn't they?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:58 am
by distortiondave
Arsenals run of 49 must beat Forests run of 42 if spreading over multiple seasons.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:33 am
by Walton
A run is only as good as what you get out of it. You could go 46 games unbeaten and still get relegated after drawing the lot.

In 15/16 we got 55 points from 23 games and won the league
In 22/23 we got 55 points from 22 games and won the league
In 25/26 we've got 52 points from 24 games, and it's those extra dropped points which means we're in 3rd instead of top.

Fine margins, but settling for draws against teams far below us is costing us this season

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:49 am
by PremierLeagueClass
morninbob wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:34 am
I would rather lose a game and be promoted than have an unbeaten run.
Is that the ultimatum?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:50 am
by blatherwickstattoos
Be mental if we carried this on and still didn’t go up automatically

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:10 am
by Woodleyclaret
I hold my hand up to moaning we have thrown away points to crap sides the latest being WBA
If half of draws were wins we'd be well clear of DL and the Blades. 9 games left 4 home wins and 3 aways should be enough for automatically getting promoted

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:32 am
by Quicknick
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:10 am
I hold my hand up to moaning we have thrown away points to crap sides the latest being WBA
If half of draws were wins we'd be well clear of DL and the Blades. 9 games left 4 home wins and 3 aways should be enough for automatically getting promoted
WBA are not a crap side.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:35 am
by Burnley1989
I'm pretty sure West Brom are unbeaten against the top 3 in 6 games this season, hardly the sign of a crap team....

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:58 am
by Buxtonclaret
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:10 am
I hold my hand up to moaning we have thrown away points to crap sides the latest being WBA

West Brom really aren't a crap side though, are they? :roll:

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:52 pm
by ElectroClaret
Quicknick wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:32 am
WBA are not a crap side.
No, they're not.
But the case could be made that QPR, Oxford, PNE, Derby and Stoke aren't exactly brilliant.

And we dropped two points against all of them in our
0-0 draws we had against them. Three of those games at home.
That's where we'll look back and regret our shortcomings
on the goalscoring front if we don't get automatic.
But hopefully it won't come to that.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:01 pm
by Spijed
ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:52 pm
No, they're not.
But the case could be made that QPR, Oxford, PNE, Derby and Stoke aren't exactly brilliant.

And we dropped two points against all of them in our
0-0 draws we had against them. Three of those games at home.
That's where we'll look back and regret our shortcomings
on the goalscoring front if we don't get automatic.
But hopefully it won't come to that.
If it ends up being a freak season where 92 points isn't enough I don't think you could say we have any short comings when we'd be a better side than any SD one if we get more points but not enough to automatically get promoted

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:16 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Spijed wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:01 pm
If it ends up being a freak season where 92 points isn't enough I don't think you could say we have any short comings when we'd be a better side than any SD one if we get more points but not enough to automatically get promoted
I think it's fair to say SDs teams squeezed every point out of every game.
This team today has left so many points out on the pitch by not squeezing everything we can out of them.
It's not the results that's the problem, it's the performances.
I thought the last 6 matches had shown that we had learnt how to create goals and win games, last night showed we had learnt nothing. Back to playing slow, slow build up. Back to not putting the ball in early, fast and low. Back to not getting enough bodies in the box. Back to passing backwards when we could have attacked. It's the frustration of knowing we can do so much more than what we deliver that hurts.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:18 pm
by ClaretTony
Walton wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:33 am
A run is only as good as what you get out of it. You could go 46 games unbeaten and still get relegated after drawing the lot.

In 15/16 we got 55 points from 23 games and won the league
In 22/23 we got 55 points from 22 games and won the league
In 25/26 we've got 52 points from 24 games, and it's those extra dropped points which means we're in 3rd instead of top.

Fine margins, but settling for draws against teams far below us is costing us this season
Still more points than we had at this stage in 2015/16 and only one point less than 2013/14

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:33 pm
by FCBurnley
How many draws did we have in the famous 30 unbeaten run ?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:26 pm
by Claretnick
FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:33 pm
How many draws did we have in the famous 30 unbeaten run ?
The answer to your question lies in this article
https://www.uptheclarets.com/we-are-cha ... 20-to-1930

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:36 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Spijed wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:01 pm
If it ends up being a freak season where 92 points isn't enough I don't think you could say we have any short comings when we'd be a better side than any SD one if we get more points but not enough to automatically get promoted
Does that mean that all the Premier League teams in the last 10 years that got more than 54 pts despite finishing outside the top 7 and not qualifying for Europe are better sides than the Burnley team who finished 7th?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:48 pm
by Spijed
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:36 pm
Does that mean that all the Premier League teams in the last 10 years that got more than 54 pts despite finishing outside the top 7 and not qualifying for Europe are better sides than the Burnley team who finished 7th?
Yes. Like there is no doubt that Reading are the best team in the Championship to date.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:16 am
by Quicknick
ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:52 pm
No, they're not.
But the case could be made that QPR, Oxford, PNE, Derby and Stoke aren't exactly brilliant.

And we dropped two points against all of them in our
0-0 draws we had against them. Three of those games at home.
That's where we'll look back and regret our shortcomings
on the goalscoring front if we don't get automatic.
But hopefully it won't come to that.
I agree. Just three of those 0-0s converted to wins would put us top right now by two points

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:58 am
by Darnhill Claret
I've got a funny feeling that both DL and Sheff U fans will point to points they have dropped to 'lower/poorer' teams as well.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:52 pm
by keith1879
Colburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:16 pm
I think it's fair to say SDs teams squeezed every point out of every game.
This team today has left so many points out on the pitch by not squeezing everything we can out of them.
It's not the results that's the problem, it's the performances.
I thought the last 6 matches had shown that we had learnt how to create goals and win games, last night showed we had learnt nothing. Back to playing slow, slow build up. Back to not putting the ball in early, fast and low. Back to not getting enough bodies in the box. Back to passing backwards when we could have attacked. It's the frustration of knowing we can do so much more than what we deliver that hurts.
There's something in that ... but like so many other posters you aren't taking the opposition into account. WBA not only pressed us very effectively and cut down our chances of making good passes out of defence but they also got back very quickly and competed well in midfield. I don't think we ever settle for a draw (as someone else said)...I think we always play roughly the same game which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
Are we really just not trying as hard as Sean's teams or does the football just look different? As things stand we look likely to get about the same points total, it might be our bad luck that two other teams exceed it, however still 9 games to go.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:15 pm
by Claretnick
25 games now, incredible.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:32 pm
by GetIntoEm
With a bit of luck we could have been 9 PTS clear by now.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:31 pm
by FCBurnley
GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:32 pm
With a bit of luck we could have been 9 PTS clear by now.
We SHOULD be 9 points clear

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:47 pm
by Bosscat
FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:31 pm
We SHOULD be 9 points clear
Tbf if 8 months ago I had been told we would be 2 points off top in 2nd place, 25 games undefeated and 27 clean sheets for the season with 8 games to go ... I would have snapped their effin hand off.

Yes we probably should have a few more points but ... hell man we are 2nd and a record breaking season in so many ways.

Embrace it and watch us march on :D

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:56 pm
by boatshed bill
Just about every team drops points that disappoint the fans, it's competitive football.

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:56 pm
by Rileybobs
FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:31 pm
We SHOULD be 9 points clear
Why should we be 9 points clear?

Re: Best unbeaten runs

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:03 pm
by fidelcastro
Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:56 pm
Why should we be 9 points clear?
We shouldn't, but there will no doubt be Leeds and Sheffield United fans saying the same thing.

So many football fans think that only their team are unlucky or have refs' decisions go against them.