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Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:15 am
by Stonehouse
Car wash on Manchester rd fined £120,000 for employing illegal workers .

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:51 am
by Clovius Boofus
I normally avoid these cash-in-hand-only car wash places, but I called in for the first time last month. My car was proper shitted up with oily grime and road salt after a long and tiring journey home from the south-east, so I called off while driving up Manny Rd. I won't be doing so again.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... l-workers/

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:33 am
by Andreshotboots
I don't think they'll be worrying too much. Most of these are nothing more than money laundering operations for drug gangs..

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:38 am
by Burnley1989
Andreshotboots wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:33 am
I don't think they'll be worrying too much. Most of these are nothing more than money laundering operations for drug gangs..
That's exactly what they are, as are a lot of the take aways up Colne Rd (and this came straight from a police officers mouth during a conversation at Crow Wood gym)
Needs clamping down on

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:02 pm
by Herts Clarets
Hand car wash, "Turkish" barbers, take aways, nail bars, taxi companies all cash only money laundering businesses. Been going on for decades with it seems little or no appetite to investigate and deal with them. When you are seeing top of the range German performance cars and blinged up 4x4s parked outside a 50k terraced house, something is amiss. Surprising to see a recruitment company on there as their purpose it so place candidates with the right to work in employment.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:09 pm
by Steve1956
Andreshotboots wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:33 am
I don't think they'll be worrying too much. Most of these are nothing more than money laundering operations for drug gangs..
They do a fantastic job cleaning your car though ;)

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:18 pm
by GetIntoEm
Same for these mobile car valeters that seem to have sprung up everywhere

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:34 pm
by turfytopper
Herts Clarets wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:02 pm
Hand car wash, "Turkish" barbers, take aways, nail bars, taxi companies all cash only money laundering businesses. Been going on for decades with it seems little or no appetite to investigate and deal with them. When you are seeing top of the range German performance cars and blinged up 4x4s parked outside a 50k terraced house, something is amiss. Surprising to see a recruitment company on there as their purpose it so place candidates with the right to work in employment.
Absolutely spot on. Why drive a bus when you can drive a taxi, get paid cash in hand and reduce your claimed earnings so you are entitled to every benefit under the sun.
Successive governments have ignored this for decades... the arrival of the gig economy has pulled in migrants into the UK because our government allows it to happen.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:14 pm
by aggi
turfytopper wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:34 pm
Absolutely spot on. Why drive a bus when you can drive a taxi, get paid cash in hand and reduce your claimed earnings so you are entitled to every benefit under the sun.
Successive governments have ignored this for decades... the arrival of the gig economy has pulled in migrants into the UK because our government allows it to happen.
I don't think there are many taxis that are operating as cash businesses now.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:21 pm
by Claretforever
They do a good job on your car. I’ve spoken with a few of them in the past and they were from Iraq and Syria.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:39 pm
by Clovius Boofus
turfytopper wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:34 pm
Absolutely spot on. Why drive a bus when you can drive a taxi, get paid cash in hand and reduce your claimed earnings so you are entitled to every benefit under the sun.
Successive governments have ignored this for decades... the arrival of the gig economy has pulled in migrants into the UK because our government allows it to happen.
It's not only taxi drivers. You might be surprised at how many trades people do the same. Put some through the books, but make sure the majority is cash in-hand goes and goes in the backsack. Even better if you're renting and have a family. I mean, why bother having a mortgage on a semi-detached property in Burnley when you can rent a detached house in a more salubrious area while having Housing Benefit pay off a good chunk of your monthly rent.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:43 pm
by Andreshotboots
Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:09 pm
They do a fantastic job cleaning your car though ;)
Exactly. That Cociane based shampoo is out of this world :D

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 pm
by Roger1960
When our son was at Christ the king school we were waiting for school to finish by the rose and crown when a fleet of police and immigration vans pulled up and carted off a load of the car wash workers and that’s over 10 years ago so sounds like they have been up to it for a long time

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:43 pm
by karatekid
Haha, imagine a car wash with employees sponging and laundering.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:24 am
by turfytopper
Clovius Boofus wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:39 pm
It's not only taxi drivers. You might be surprised at how many trades people do the same. Put some through the books, but make sure the majority is cash in-hand goes and goes in the backsack. Even better if you're renting and have a family. I mean, why bother having a mortgage on a semi-detached property in Burnley when you can rent a detached house in a more salubrious area while having Housing Benefit pay off a good chunk of your monthly rent.
Yep I was in Bethnal Green last Thursday...cafe's on the high Street openly display "cash only". I reckon if everyone paid the right amount of tax, eg plumbers, painters and decorators, plasterers, hairdressers, taxi drivers etc etc etc. We could all pay an awful lot less.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:44 am
by Casper2
turfytopper wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:24 am
Yep I was in Bethnal Green last Thursday...cafe's on the high Street openly display "cash only". I reckon if everyone paid the right amount of tax, eg plumbers, painters and decorators, plasterers, hairdressers, taxi drivers etc etc etc. We could all pay an awful lot less.
Or oil giants, Google, Amazon,Starbucks , hedge fund managers

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:01 am
by Row x
turfytopper wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:24 am
Yep I was in Bethnal Green last Thursday...cafe's on the high Street openly display "cash only". I reckon if everyone paid the right amount of tax, eg plumbers, painters and decorators, plasterers, hairdressers, taxi drivers etc etc etc. We could all pay an awful lot less.
All the chippies around turf Moor are cash only

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:11 am
by fidelcastro
Row x wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:01 am
All the chippies around turf Moor are cash only
I see it doesn't stop folk using them on a point of principle.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:12 am
by Leon_C
It's not my area of expertise, but I'm not sure that a premises being 'CASH ONLY' has a direct impact on their ability to participate in money laundering.

The central tenet of laundering is the placement of 'dirty' cash into the income of the business, to falsely inflate revenues. If the business operates with 'credible' visibility - taking card payments, and looking 'proper' as we'd say... then this could deflect some suspicion.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:14 am
by Herts Clarets
turfytopper wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:24 am
Yep I was in Bethnal Green last Thursday...cafe's on the high Street openly display "cash only". I reckon if everyone paid the right amount of tax, eg plumbers, painters and decorators, plasterers, hairdressers, taxi drivers etc etc etc. We could all pay an awful lot less.
A friend of mine has a building company with his business partner. They generally take part payment in cash, 10-15% with the rest going through the books. I know he pays for his main summer holiday in cash, he has 4 or 5 expensive watches (think Omega, Tag Heuer and Breitling) and an expensive service and maintenance bill for his 1995 Porsche 911, all paid in cash. I am sure this practice is common place...

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:54 am
by GetIntoEm
If we pay tax, so should they.

It's one of those "accepted" activities, people promoting cash is king, support small business etc..

But putting cash into the bank for businesses is just as costly as card transactions these days, especially some of the cheap card deals you can get

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:17 am
by Row x
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:11 am
I see it doesn't stop folk using them on a point of principle.
People were happy to pay trades people cash, because they got the job done cheaper
The chippies are the same price as others.
People like to moan about things, but if they fancy fish and chips before a game, or someone to wash their car, principles go out of the window

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:30 pm
by dougcollins
Casper2 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:44 am
Or oil giants, Google, Amazon,Starbucks , hedge fund managers
None of us would need to pay tax again.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:32 pm
by dougcollins
Row x wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:01 am
All the chippies around turf Moor are cash only
It's not illegal.

A lot of them do it because of the card transaction costs on small amounts.

Try talking to them and they'll explain.

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:35 pm
by ISpeds00
GetIntoEm wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:18 pm
Same for these mobile car valeters that seem to have sprung up everywhere
Pure and simple - masking their naughty business
What's funny is some have previously been convicted too
For the work they do in a day, for the time taken - they arent making what you see their life leads. Fact

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:39 pm
by Row x
dougcollins wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:32 pm
It's not illegal.

A lot of them do it because of the card transaction costs on small amounts.

Try talking to them and they'll explain.
I never said it was

I was just adding to the list a poster had put up

I don't have a problem with it, and regularly use them

So the point of your reply is?

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:39 pm
by GetIntoEm
dougcollins wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:32 pm
It's not illegal.

A lot of them do it because of the card transaction costs on small amounts.

Try talking to them and they'll explain.
That's the excuse, banking cash is just as expensive, if it goes through card they've got to account for it because of the papertrail.

Card transaction fees are nothing these days, even seen some car boot sellers with card machines now

Re: Car Wash

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:46 pm
by Jakubclaret
GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:39 pm
That's the excuse, banking cash is just as expensive, if it goes through card they've got to account for it because of the papertrail.

Card transaction fees are nothing these days, even seen some car boot sellers with card machines now
That depends - minimum purchase fees are often used now for chip & pin to outweigh that cost usually £5 or over threshold so the merchant banking fees aren't nibbling away at pure profit.