They have been beaten by Derby County, Stoke City and Cardiff City all within 8 days.
All 3 were in the relegation spots at the time of beating them.

Oh dear what a shame never mind

The funny bit is absolutely everyone knew they'd f*** it up as usual, even the majority of their fans, yet they were still talking about playing us in the playoff final.

They weren't far off being a top 6 side this year, weirdly just gave up again once they looked top 6, almost like the board don't want the risk of going up

Is it realistic to suspect any club would sabotage their own promotion?..
I know plenty of the bestial 4,000 keep bleating this idea but under what scenario could this possibly be the case?

Free money plus the chance to recoup most of their £230m before getting the whole sh1tshow off their backs?.
No brainer surely?

Bad week for Bastards.

It wasn’t so long ago they were the best run club in the world.

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:06 pm

They weren't far off being a top 6 side this year, weirdly just gave up again once they looked top 6, almost like the board don't want the risk of going up

Three consecutive times this has happened, not just this season. Happened under Mowbray in his final season, JDT and Eustace where they were sat inside the top 6 and the owners did not give a ****. They did not spend a penny to try and seal a play off spot and fell away. Just like they are doing now.

Said it before, they don't want promotion. It looks like active sabotage is in play. That's why the Rovers fans are fuming. To be honest, if that was happening here every single Claret would be raging too and mentioning all sorts of ways to hit back at the owners.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:25 pm

Three consecutive times this has happened, not just this season. Happened under Mowbray in his final season, JDT and Eustace where they were sat inside the top 6 and the owners did not give a ****. They did not spend a penny to try and seal a play off spot and fell away. Just like they are doing now.

Said it before, they don't want promotion. It looks like active sabotage is in play. That's why the Rovers fans are fuming. To be honest, if that was happening here every single Claret would be raging too and mentioning all sorts of ways to hit back at the owners.

Why wouldn't you want promotion?

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:25 pm

Three consecutive times this has happened, not just this season. Happened under Mowbray in his final season, JDT and Eustace where they were sat inside the top 6 and the owners did not give a ****. They did not spend a penny to try and seal a play off spot and fell away. Just like they are doing now.

Said it before, they don't want promotion. It looks like active sabotage is in play. That's why the Rovers fans are fuming. To be honest, if that was happening here every single Claret would be raging too and mentioning all sorts of ways to hit back at the owners.

At least you don't have to play us again this season, Hutch.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:25 pm

Three consecutive times this has happened, not just this season. Happened under Mowbray in his final season, JDT and Eustace where they were sat inside the top 6 and the owners did not give a ****. They did not spend a penny to try and seal a play off spot and fell away. Just like they are doing now.

Said it before, they don't want promotion. It looks like active sabotage is in play. That's why the Rovers fans are fuming. To be honest, if that was happening here every single Claret would be raging too and mentioning all sorts of ways to hit back at the owners.

Or is it that those managers say, "Listen we've done great to get this far but we're punching above our weight. This squad should be nowhere near the playoffs and we need better players if we are to stay where we are "

And the Venkys reply with something like, "Mate, you're doing a great job but sorry, there's no money. It's all going on keeping the club in literal existence. Do you wanna see how much we're spending just to keep the lights on at Ewood? Without us, Rovers would be ground sharing with Chorley."

durhamclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:51 pm

Oh dear what a shame never mind

Anyone else read that in a Windsor Davies style?

It looks like they’ve blown their chance of promotion, but surely this will still be looked upon as a successful season for them after their historic 1-1 win at Turf Moor.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:16 pm

Is it realistic to suspect any club would sabotage their own promotion?..
I know plenty of the bestial 4,000 keep bleating this idea but under what scenario could this possibly be the case?

Free money plus the chance to recoup most of their £230m before getting the whole sh1tshow off their backs?.
No brainer surely?

At a normal club with normal owners, yeah. Absolute no brainer. But something has been sus about that takeover fron day one. The theory is that they don't want the Premier League spotlight on them and they don't want to invest the levels required for Premier League football I.e on wages, signings, stadium improvements etc.

They haven't made a single attempt in 12 years to win promotion to the Premier League. Not one. Why not? Look at how JDT and Eustace have been driven out. Either of them could have won promotion with a bit of backing.

Mowbray, in his last season, had them in 2nd in January. He was completely ignored, given naff all that January and just allowed to walk away on the summer without so much as a goodbye from the owners. He said in May 2022 "I've heard nothing from the owners, so I assume I'm leaving". What's all that about? What kind of way is that to treat any manager?

Don't forget, two consecutive transfers were recently scuppered in Lewis O'Brien and the American striker McGuire. The first had a £10m obligation to buy attached to it. The second had a £5m transfer fee attached. By some coincidence both failed due to last minute admin/paperwork errors. Some accept it was an error both times, others argue something else stopped those signings.

durhamclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:51 pm

Oh dear what a shame never mind

Isn’t it. Oh dear how sad never mind. In Windsor Davies style.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:25 pm

Three consecutive times this has happened, not just this season. Happened under Mowbray in his final season, JDT and Eustace where they were sat inside the top 6 and the owners did not give a ****. They did not spend a penny to try and seal a play off spot and fell away. Just like they are doing now.

Said it before, they don't want promotion. It looks like active sabotage is in play. That's why the Rovers fans are fuming. To be honest, if that was happening here every single Claret would be raging too and mentioning all sorts of ways to hit back at the owners.

If the owners are so desperate to avoid promotion, how come they're always in the top 6 at Christmas in the first place? Surely they'd just stop appointing good managers or signing/developing good players and aim for 19th like last season.

mickleoverclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:05 pm

If the owners are so desperate to avoid promotion, how come they're always in the top 6 at Christmas in the first place? Surely they'd just stop appointing good managers or signing/developing good players and aim for 19th like last season.

I'll answer that, but just consider the following first, Mick.

In May 2023, Rovers finished 7th just missing out on the playoffs on goal difference. That summer, Steve Waggott tells local radio that the club's aim for the upcoming 2023/24 was to avoid relegation. You've just finished 7th, everybody over there is excited about what could be achieved under JDT and the CEO comes out and says that.

That tells you straight away, Waggott and Co aren't even thinking 'promotion'. Their aim is just to stay up and develop players. Waggott said those very words himself when JDT told the press the press he wanted backing, that the 'project' had changed and that the fans should know about it.

The 'project' according to JDT and Gregg Broughton was to become a sustainable Premier League club. The 'project' according to Waggott is to stay up and develop young players. The latter is what Ismael is spouting too.

The answer to your question is, those managers have been doing a solid job, despite the hierarchy, to have Rovers in contention come January each of the last few years. January arrives, and the hierarchy ignores that the club is in or around the top 6, doesn't back each manager sufficiently and it all falls apart.

Is it not strange that two strong managers in JDT amd Eustace, who both were chasing promotion and wanted support, have left in the same way and both have called out the hierarchy's lack of ambition?

Now that a duffer is there in Ismael who is happy to just develop players, they've given him a three year deal. Is that not strange too?

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:39 pm

At a normal club with normal owners, yeah. Absolute no brainer. But something has been sus about that takeover fron day one. The theory is that they don't want the Premier League spotlight on them and they don't want to invest the levels required for Premier League football I.e on wages, signings, stadium improvements etc.

They haven't made a single attempt in 12 years to win promotion to the Premier League. Not one. Why not? Look at how JDT and Eustace have been driven out. Either of them could have won promotion with a bit of backing.

Mowbray, in his last season, had them in 2nd in January. He was completely ignored, given naff all that January and just allowed to walk away on the summer without so much as a goodbye from the owners. He said in May 2022 "I've heard nothing from the owners, so I assume I'm leaving". What's all that about? What kind of way is that to treat any manager?

Don't forget, two consecutive transfers were recently scuppered in Lewis O'Brien and the American striker McGuire. The first had a £10m obligation to buy attached to it. The second had a £5m transfer fee attached. By some coincidence both failed due to last minute admin/paperwork errors. Some accept it was an error both times, others argue something else stopped those signings.

When you put it like that Hutchy, it is very odd behaviour.

You spend a lot of time on here though. You should just bin Rovers off and convert to the better side. Once you become a claret, peace, contentment and happiness await. You only live once.

They keep accidentally hiring decent managers but appear to have got the correct one this time.

Commy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:34 pm

They keep accidentally hiring decent managers but appear to have got the correct one this time.

Give him a five year contract

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:21 pm

January arrives, and the hierarchy ignores that the club is in or around the top 6, doesn't back each manager sufficiently and it all falls apart.

Has it occurred to you that the owners may have set limits on the amount they're now prepared to spunk on this rotting hulk? That maybe £230m on a club with 3,700 adult STH's may be enough to flush down the bog?

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:39 pm

At a normal club with normal owners, yeah. Absolute no brainer. But something has been sus about that takeover fron day one. The theory is that they don't want the Premier League spotlight on them and they don't want to invest the levels required for Premier League football I.e on wages, signings, stadium improvements etc.

They haven't made a single attempt in 12 years to win promotion to the Premier League. Not one. Why not? Look at how JDT and Eustace have been driven out. Either of them could have won promotion with a bit of backing.

Mowbray, in his last season, had them in 2nd in January. He was completely ignored, given naff all that January and just allowed to walk away on the summer without so much as a goodbye from the owners. He said in May 2022 "I've heard nothing from the owners, so I assume I'm leaving". What's all that about? What kind of way is that to treat any manager?

Don't forget, two consecutive transfers were recently scuppered in Lewis O'Brien and the American striker McGuire. The first had a £10m obligation to buy attached to it. The second had a £5m transfer fee attached. By some coincidence both failed due to last minute admin/paperwork errors. Some accept it was an error both times, others argue something else stopped those signings.

You should go on Mastermind Hutch ,Chosen Subject : The Rise and Fall of Blackburn Rovers ,you’d smash it.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:21 pm

I'll answer that, but just consider the following first, Mick.

In May 2023, Rovers finished 7th just missing out on the playoffs on goal difference. That summer, Steve Waggott tells local radio that the club's aim for the upcoming 2023/24 was to avoid relegation. You've just finished 7th, everybody over there is excited about what could be achieved under JDT and the CEO comes out and says that.

That tells you straight away, Waggott and Co aren't even thinking 'promotion'. Their aim is just to stay up and develop players. Waggott said those very words himself when JDT told the press the press he wanted backing, that the 'project' had changed and that the fans should know about it.

The 'project' according to JDT and Gregg Broughton was to become a sustainable Premier League club. The 'project' according to Waggott is to stay up and develop young players. The latter is what Ismael is spouting too.

The answer to your question is, those managers have been doing a solid job, despite the hierarchy, to have Rovers in contention come January each of the last few years. January arrives, and the hierarchy ignores that the club is in or around the top 6, doesn't back each manager sufficiently and it all falls apart.

Is it not strange that two strong managers in JDT amd Eustace, who both were chasing promotion and wanted support, have left in the same way and both have called out the hierarchy's lack of ambition?

Now that a duffer is there in Ismael who is happy to just develop players, they've given him a three year deal. Is that not strange too?

That doesn't answer my question. Why give ambitious, talented managers a go when they could just appoint the youth team coach or the next Steve Kean? Your problem is you will never believe the manager has been adequately backed because you have a totally unrealistic view of where your club is and should be in the hierarchy.

I don't have a jot of sympathy for them, may their tumble be steep and fast.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:03 pm

I don't have a jot of sympathy for them, may their tumble be steep and fast.

Absolutely. The sooner they’re wiped from the football pyramid the better. It’s time they ran out to “ We’re on the road to nowhere “, by Talking Heads or, “ Down Down “ by the Quo.

Mickey Mouse club, Mickey Mouse fans.

Not since they were relegated to league 1. There’s always next season for a repeat of that please.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:42 pm

Has it occurred to you that the owners may have set limits on the amount they're now prepared to spunk on this rotting hulk? That maybe £230m on a club with 3,700 adult STH's may be enough to flush down the bog?

This is where your original question comes into play, fb. Why would you limit spending when the club is in or around the top 6 and why would you do it three years on the trot? When promotion would see you recoup most of that outlay? If you want promotion, surely you'd give JDT or Eustace the extra 3 or 4 million required in January to see the job through. It's not stupid levels of money that Rovers fans are asking to be spent.

An alternative view that people here may not have the info to consider:

1) Venky's have been and still are, under investigation in India by the Directorate of Enforcement. The DOE looks into financial crimes such as fraud, money laundering etc.

2) As a result of the above investigation, they need to obtain a Certificate of No Objection from the Court in order to send funds to Rovers. They also have to provide the court with a full breakdown of where every penny sent is going to be spent at Rovers. An itemised breakdown almost.

Since the above stipulations, the money has stopped being sent over and the club is being told to raise it's own funds.

It could be what you said, fb. That they have simply decided they don't want to spend more money. But you can understand why some might come up with other theories.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:14 pm

This is where your original question comes into play, fb. Why would you limit spending when the club is in or around the top 6 and why would you do it three years on the trot? When promotion would see you recoup most of that outlay? If you want promotion, surely you'd give JDT or Eustace the extra 3 or 4 million required in January to see the job through. It's not stupid levels of money that Rovers fans are asking to be spent.

An alternative view that people here may not have the info to consider:

1) Venky's have been and still are, under investigation in India by the Directorate of Enforcement. The DOE looks into financial crimes such as fraud, money laundering etc.

2) As a result of the above investigation, they need to obtain a Certificate of No Objection from the Court in order to send funds to Rovers. They also have to provide the court with a full breakdown of where every penny sent is going to be spent at Rovers. An itemised breakdown almost.

Since the above stipulations, the money has stopped being sent over and the club is being told to raise it's own funds.

It could be what you said, fb. That they have simply decided they don't want to spend more money. But you can understand why some might come up with other theories.

True or not, why are you telling us though?

Are you expecting sympathy?

mickleoverclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:54 pm

That doesn't answer my question. Why give ambitious, talented managers a go when they could just appoint the youth team coach or the next Steve Kean? Your problem is you will never believe the manager has been adequately backed because you have a totally unrealistic view of where your club is and should be in the hierarchy.

They got lucky in stumbling upon JDT and Eustace. These were not decisions made with promotion in mind. They have always wanted somebody to develop players that can be sold on.

JDT was a Gregg Broughton find and appointment. Him and Broughton both came to Rovers on the understanding that the goal was to become a sustainable Premier League club. Somebody sold them a lie.

When JDT did better than expected, by having them playing good football and sat inside the top 6, look what happened. No investment, arguments going off about lack of ambition. Botched transfers, some could argue sabotage. It was a total mess behind the scenes, even if it was just incompetence all round. End result? Play off hopes finished.

Look what happened with Eustace when he started looking the real deal and had them in the top 6. Arguments behind the scenes, insufficient backing, Eustace so ****** off that he leaves for relegation zone Derby. End result? Play off hopes finished.

Now they have a boring dud in Ismael, who is talking about needing to develop players, playing the youngsters and 'rebuilding' in the Championship next season. Three year contract for you, sir.

It could all be gross stupidity, ignorance and incompetence at the top, but there are valid concerns there behind the fan anger that is starting to build. Something doesn't feel right over there.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:19 pm

True or not, why are you telling us though?

Are you expecting sympathy?

No sympathy. Just providing context as to why they are in such a mess and why those owners are a disgrace. It is not something to particularly take delight in, IMO. Owners taking the **** and destroying a club is not funny.

Of course, I expect there is going to be laughter on here, but just remember that what's going on there is not normal. The hierarchy there are bastards working to a different agenda. That agenda does not involve the success of the club.

When Venky's and their senior employees are gone, that's when everybody will see how much those owners held Rovers down for all of these years.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:38 pm

No sympathy. Just providing context as to why they are in such a mess and why those owners are a disgrace. It is not something to particularly take delight in, IMO. Owners taking the **** and destroying a club is not funny.

Of course, I expect there is going to be laughter on here, but just remember that what's going on there is not normal. The hierarchy there are bastards working to a different agenda. That agenda does not involve the success of the club.

When Venky's and their senior employees are gone, that's when everybody will see how much those owners held Rovers down for all of these years.

My heart bleeds for you!

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:38 pm

When Venky's and their senior employees are gone, that's when everybody will see how much those owners held Rovers down for all of these years.

Venkys holding Rovers back ? From what ?
Since the end of the second world war until Walker's money Rovers have spent 10 seasons in the top division, THIRTY in the second tier and 5 in the third tier. The season before Walker bought the club Rovers finished 19th in the second tier. Venky's are keeping Rovers afloat, most certainly not holding them back and history proves it.

Feel free to have a look yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... C._seasons
This is far as my screen capture can get :

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:27 am

Venkys holding Rovers back ? From what ?
Since the end of the second world war until Walker's money Rovers have spent 10 seasons in the top division, THIRTY in the second tier and 5 in the third tier. The season before Walker bought the club Rovers finished 19th in the second tier. Venky's are keeping Rovers afloat, most certainly not holding them back and history proves it.

Feel free to have a look yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... C._seasons
This is far as my screen capture can get :

From the top flight. They picked up a Premier League football club in 2010, did they not? Is it acceptable for them to buy a Premier League outfit and turn them into this state? Would you accept this for Burnley if the roles were reversed? It does not matter where Rovers used to play in the 70s and 80s. You can't just wipe out 1990-2010 as if it was an illusion.

If referencing the 70s and 80s matters today, then Man Utd fans have no right to be complaining and protesting because they went 27 years without a League title from 1967-1993. 1993-2013 was only down to Fergie, right? Chelsea fans have no right to complain about their decline today because they weren't all that before Roman. Double standards if you only apply your logic to Blackburn.

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:14 pm

This is where your original question comes into play, fb. Why would you limit spending when the club is in or around the top 6 and why would you do it three years on the trot? When promotion would see you recoup most of that outlay? If you want promotion, surely you'd give JDT or Eustace the extra 3 or 4 million required in January to see the job through. It's not stupid levels of money that Rovers fans are asking to be spent.

An alternative view that people here may not have the info to consider:

1) Venky's have been and still are, under investigation in India by the Directorate of Enforcement. The DOE looks into financial crimes such as fraud, money laundering etc.

2) As a result of the above investigation, they need to obtain a Certificate of No Objection from the Court in order to send funds to Rovers. They also have to provide the court with a full breakdown of where every penny sent is going to be spent at Rovers. An itemised breakdown almost.

Since the above stipulations, the money has stopped being sent over and the club is being told to raise it's own funds.

It could be what you said, fb. That they have simply decided they don't want to spend more money. But you can understand why some might come up with other theories.

Do you actually believe that a club in 6th place can guarantee promotion by spending an extra £3m-£4m? Does that apply to the teams in all the top 6 places - if they all spend £3m-£4m, they will all go up?

If Venky's pushed their annual giving from £20m to £24m, it would guarantee nothing, and it would be an extra £4m that they will never see again. It seems a bit counterproductive to whinge that the Venky's aren't giving enough and then asking them to stop giving the £20m each year that they do.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:45 am

From the top flight. They picked up a Premier League football club in 2010, did they not? Is it acceptable for them to buy a Premier League outfit and turn them into this state? Would you accept this for Burnley if the roles were reversed? It does not matter where Rovers used to play in the 70s and 80s. You can't just wipe out 1990-2010 as if it was an illusion.

If referencing the 70s and 80s matters today, then Man Utd fans have no right to be complaining and protesting because they went 27 years without a League title from 1967-1993. 1993-2013 was only down to Fergie, right? Chelsea fans have no right to complain about their decline today because they weren't all that before Roman. Double standards if you only apply your logic to Blackburn.

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

Burnley won the top league in the 60s, should we be challenging now ? Boo ******* hoo, Rovers don't deserve to be in the top flight they have to earn it. We scrapped from the fourth division over decades to get into the Prem, no sugar daddy came along for us or clubs like Luton, Charlton, Bradford, Swindon etc.

I also don't give a rats arse about the plastics at Old Trafford, Stamford bridge or The Emirates, it's ******* hilarious how they've fallen off their perch and can't cope with it - long may it continue because that means others clubs are having their time. There is no divine right to anything in professional sport and history is exactly that - ask Leeds. NNN

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:45 am

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

'a prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed'

This has got to be the funniest thing written anywhere, ever since humans learnt to communicate. I don't even know where to start with this one. I used to think hutchy was just your typical self entitled bturd fan but no one can possibly be this delusional therefore he must be on the wind up.

Move over DA it was good while it lasted but we've a new idiot in town with fresh material and an encyclopedia like knowledge of all things shadsworth but claims to be a Claret.

It's hilarious stuff. Keep it coming hutchy, you're keeping us all entertained as are your team and fanbase who once again, started OK, got giddy, wet themselves with excitement and gobbed off a lot. And then it all went sadly ti-ts up as per usual after the cup final loss to us in January.

200 million in debt. Tick tock. What goes around comes around.

Long may it continue.

5 in a row at Ewood, 15 years and counting.

UTC

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:45 am

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

Leeds and Sheffield United are pushing us all the way, though

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:38 pm

IMO. Owners taking the **** and destroying a club is not funny.

It is when its b@stards

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:25 pm

Said it before, they don't want promotion. It looks like active sabotage is in play. That's why the Rovers fans are fuming.

Let us just assume for a minute that your hare-brained theory that the owners do not want promotion - with the Premier League riches for one season - makes sense, why sabotage a play-off place? A home semi-final gives them a great opportunity to fleece you suckers more, plus possibly a lucrative Wembley final. This is where they would sabotage.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:39 pm

They haven't made a single attempt in 12 years to win promotion to the Premier League. Not one.

Are we just going to pretend you didn' p*** your parachute money on the likes on Leon Best, Danny Murphy and Dixon Etuhu, all for substantial fees/wages? Not to mention the record signing of Rhodes during the same window for c£8m.

I'm pretty sure that can be classed as an attempt to go back up.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:38 pm

No sympathy. Just providing context as to why they are in such a mess and why those owners are a disgrace. It is not something to particularly take delight in, IMO. Owners taking the **** and destroying a club is not funny.

Of course, I expect there is going to be laughter on here, but just remember that what's going on there is not normal. The hierarchy there are bastards working to a different agenda. That agenda does not involve the success of the club.

When Venky's and their senior employees are gone, that's when everybody will see how much those owners held Rovers down for all of these years.

In most clubs cases this would be true, however for the most deluded, entitled bandwagon fanbase in the whole of football I would take great delight in your club folding.

Just because you had a season or 2 doing well bankrolled by a tax dodger doesn't mean anybody else in the world thinks you should be in the Prem like you seem to claim and nobody is arsed that you aren't very good and it is because your owners are in debt to over 200m while keeping you afloat.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:45 am

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed.

Hutchy, you've way over-egged it here. I said all along you were taking the p1ss, but surely no-one on here can now be in any doubt.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:14 pm

This is where your original question comes into play, fb. Why would you limit spending when the club is in or around the top 6 and why would you do it three years on the trot? When promotion would see you recoup most of that outlay? If you want promotion, surely you'd give JDT or Eustace the extra 3 or 4 million required in January to see the job through. It's not stupid levels of money that Rovers fans are asking to be spent.

An alternative view that people here may not have the info to consider:

1) Venky's have been and still are, under investigation in India by the Directorate of Enforcement. The DOE looks into financial crimes such as fraud, money laundering etc.

2) As a result of the above investigation, they need to obtain a Certificate of No Objection from the Court in order to send funds to Rovers. They also have to provide the court with a full breakdown of where every penny sent is going to be spent at Rovers. An itemised breakdown almost.

Since the above stipulations, the money has stopped being sent over and the club is being told to raise it's own funds.

It could be what you said, fb. That they have simply decided they don't want to spend more money. But you can understand why some might come up with other theories.

Morning Hutchy.

Can you lend me £3million, please? After all, it’s not a stupid level of money I’m asking you for, is it? I’ll probably be able to pay you back at some point.

How about if I told you that, 20-odd years ago, some other mug gave me £300m, no questions asked? That surely means I’m entitled to a measly £3m of your hard-earned, doesn’t it?

If not, why not? If you won’t lend me the money, why tf do you expect Venkys to pump it into your shambling wreck of a club with no guaranteed return?

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:39 pm

It looks like they’ve blown their chance of promotion, but surely this will still be looked upon as a successful season for them after their historic 1-1 win at Turf Moor.

They'll be talking about that draw in another 15 years.

Oh the giddy heights

Somethings different this time, the court case, all the out of contract players when they already know what league they will be playing in, manager lost to a bottom 3 side.

I think the capital investment is coming to an end now.

The guy is right, it's not funny. It's bloody hilarious

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:45 am

From the top flight. They picked up a Premier League football club in 2010, did they not? Is it acceptable for them to buy a Premier League outfit and turn them into this state? Would you accept this for Burnley if the roles were reversed? It does not matter where Rovers used to play in the 70s and 80s. You can't just wipe out 1990-2010 as if it was an illusion.

If referencing the 70s and 80s matters today, then Man Utd fans have no right to be complaining and protesting because they went 27 years without a League title from 1967-1993. 1993-2013 was only down to Fergie, right? Chelsea fans have no right to complain about their decline today because they weren't all that before Roman. Double standards if you only apply your logic to Blackburn.

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

Priceless

Love the conspiracy theories.. remember, never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

It's not even stupidity though. It's just how it goes when you don't have an obscenely rich sugar daddy willing to write off fortunes. We had it a few times in the early 00's. A good solid start, decent managers, in and around the play-offs, then inevitably fade away after we sold our best player or didn't have any reinforcements. You're not unique, happens to several clubs, every season.

The Venkys have willingly propped up your club, paying the bills and ensuring you're not the next Bury FC. But such is the legacy of the Walker years, that will never be enough. I get it from the current generation, but surely the fans of the 70s/80s remember that being a fair to middling 2nd division side is probably about right. It's the fact we're better than you that really causes the problem.

We break Rovers every season we play them. They build themselves up for their games against us, especially at home, lose, and their season is as good as over.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:45 am

There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

I always find it better to be thought an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:45 am

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

Ffs you must be that A-hole Jimdo.com that calls "Blackburn the cradle of football"
Jesus wept you're ****ing mental lad and you need to seek help.

Nobody cares about your "Part of the Furniture" of The Prem ... especially on here.