Average Ratings up to and including Saturday's game at Swansea

7.35: CJ Egan-Riley
7.33: Maxime Estève
6.97: Josh Cullen
6.94: James Trafford
6.78: Connor Roberts
6.73: Bashir Humphreys
6.55: Jaidon Anthony
6.52: Josh Laurent
6.50: Josh Brownhill
6.41: Hannibal
6.15: Jeremy Sarmiento
6.05: Zian Flemming
5.94: Lyle Foster & Lucas Pires
5.88: Luca Koleosho

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:56 am

Average Ratings up to and including Saturday's game at Swansea

7.35: CJ Egan-Riley
7.33: Maxime Estève
6.97: Josh Cullen
6.94: James Trafford
6.78: Connor Roberts
6.73: Bashir Humphreys
6.55: Jaidon Anthony
6.52: Josh Laurent
6.50: Josh Brownhill
6.41: Hannibal
6.15: Jeremy Sarmiento
6.05: Zian Flemming
5.94: Lyle Foster & Lucas Pires
5.88: Luca Koleosho

Surprisingly accurate.

Have you got the end of season player ratings for the last championship season Tony?

Josh Brownhill averaging 6.5 after scoring 13 league goals is pretty laughable - shows how harsh some people mark players!

I recall the same from 2 seasons ago in this division, from the average ratings you'd have guessed we were mid table at best.

Having 2 players who have been rated as good or above this season is weird.

Depends on the rating system though.

Looking at whoscored stats, we don't have many who have played over 10 games over 7/10

Surprisingly Esteve is only 6.98 which is crazy. Having said that I think Esteve and CJ are in the top 5 defenders marked in the league.

https://www.whoscored.com/teams/184/sho ... nd-burnley

Should do a count from those who 1) know what / have a clue what football is 2) aren’t over emotional children after not winning. I’d be interested in seeing the contrast in average scores.

The top six say it all. It's been a very defensive minded season! Esteve and CJ rightly the top two. I'm surprised Roberts isn't nearer to 7, he's such an important cog in the machine - when he plays well, we play well.

It's odd that the only players to produce at the other end are Brownhill, Flemming and Anthony, yet they all rate far lower the defensive unit.

Brownhill has always divided opinion, but I'm firmly in his camp. We're a better team with him in it, especially when he's played further forward. 6.5 for a lad who has 13 goals and 4 assists from midfield is ludicrous.

It's odd how Browny has never been 'loved' by the fans, despite his service and output. Has he ever had a song?

There are some games where, other than popping up with a goal, he is pretty quiet, so maybe that's it.

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:47 am

Have you got the end of season player ratings for the last championship season Tony?

Here we go

7.30: Jordan Beyer
7.11: Josh Cullen
7.07: Arijanet Muric
6.95: Manuel Benson
6.94: Jack Cork
6.88: Nathan Tella
6.85: Taylor Harwood-Bellis
6,74: Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson, Connor Roberts & Charlie Taylor
6.73: Josh Brownhill
6.68: Ian Maatsen
6.65: Ashley Barnes
6.64: Anass Zaroury
6.52: Jay Rodriguez
6.48: Bailey Peacock-Farrell
6.16: Vitinho

The ratings for Brownhill are far too low in both seasons, but especially in this one when he's scored so many goals. He's an incredibly under-appreciated player at this level, which is odd because in many respects he's precisely the sort of player I'd have always expected Burnley fans to take to - industrious, athletic, decent technically, plays with common sense and a good finisher.

I'd say that all the midfield area appear under-rated there - all of Laurent, Hannibal and Anthony in particular. Defenders will always tend to score more highly I think because a team tends to be more consistent defensively.

Always some anomalies - for Maatsen to only average 6.7 two years ago is really surprising and whilst Humphreys has been OK this season, he's not been better than Maatsen was two years ago, and nor has he been so dramatically better than Lucas Pires, who is another clearly under-rated in these scores.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:33 pm

It's odd how Browny has never been 'loved' by the fans, despite his service and output. Has he ever had a song?

There are some games where, other than popping up with a goal, he is pretty quiet, so maybe that's it.

He's not known as the ghost for no reason...

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:45 pm

Here we go

7.30: Jordan Beyer
7.11: Josh Cullen
7.07: Arijanet Muric
6.95: Manuel Benson
6.94: Jack Cork
6.88: Nathan Tella
6.85: Taylor Harwood-Bellis
6,74: Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson, Connor Roberts & Charlie Taylor
6.73: Josh Brownhill
6.68: Ian Maatsen
6.65: Ashley Barnes
6.64: Anass Zaroury
6.52: Jay Rodriguez
6.48: Bailey Peacock-Farrell
6.16: Vitinho

Laughable, isn't it?.... bloody tough crowd.

Funny how a team at the top of a league has it's defenders as its best performers!

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:39 pm

Funny how a team at the top of a league has it's defenders as its best performers!

Not really when you see our goals for and against

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:39 pm

Funny how a team at the top of a league has it's defenders as its best performers!

Our defenders have been our best performers though.

Surprised to see Sarmiento above Flemming.......Sarmiento has done nowt ...all season long!

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:45 pm

Here we go

7.30: Jordan Beyer
7.11: Josh Cullen
7.07: Arijanet Muric
6.95: Manuel Benson
6.94: Jack Cork
6.88: Nathan Tella
6.85: Taylor Harwood-Bellis
6,74: Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson, Connor Roberts & Charlie Taylor
6.73: Josh Brownhill
6.68: Ian Maatsen
6.65: Ashley Barnes
6.64: Anass Zaroury
6.52: Jay Rodriguez
6.48: Bailey Peacock-Farrell
6.16: Vitinho

82% of the squad rated somewhere between good and average despite winning the league at a canter.

As ever this feature is a really good barometer as to who has done well, as an average from hundreds of posters it doesn’t let us down.

But there are commonalities across seasons - forwards being lower down, fullbacks struggling to get to the top (even Maatsen).

I’d suggest there is a difference between players who regularly do well (and thus are high in this feature) and players who win vital games for us but are anonymous in others. A team needs both types. So Flemming, Brownhill, Anthony etc are as important as Esteve and CJER.

The scoring on this board is so daft at times. Most of the time in fact. Some people decided they didn't like Anthony very early, and it shows despite his performances and contributions. Maatsen's score for our promotion season is laughable. Strange too how people were bemoaning Zarourys lack of game time in the Premier league, and yet in the so called "terrible division" below he managed 6.64.

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:27 pm

Surprised to see Sarmiento above Flemming.......Sarmiento has done nowt ...all season long!

He had a spell early on where he was our best player im the number 10 role when we were getting a lot of draws.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:15 pm

Not really when you see our goals for and against

Defenders and Defensive midfielders dominated the top of the table under Kompany too. Maybe Burnley fans just love defenders, rather than these flaky, fancy dan forwards.

Pires would be about 6.33 if you could discount all the drama queens giving him 3’s every match because he’s not “Charlie Taylor”

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:45 pm

Here we go

7.30: Jordan Beyer
7.11: Josh Cullen
7.07: Arijanet Muric
6.95: Manuel Benson
6.94: Jack Cork
6.88: Nathan Tella
6.85: Taylor Harwood-Bellis
6,74: Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson, Connor Roberts & Charlie Taylor
6.73: Josh Brownhill
6.68: Ian Maatsen
6.65: Ashley Barnes
6.64: Anass Zaroury
6.52: Jay Rodriguez
6.48: Bailey Peacock-Farrell
6.16: Vitinho

Hope Beyer can get back to that. Top player. Vitinho surprisingly low

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:30 pm

Hope Beyer can get back to that. Top player. Vitinho surprisingly low

No surprise for me. He was rubbish

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:25 pm

Our defenders have been our best performers though.

Yes. However, that's what makes it unusual.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:15 pm

Not really when you see our goals for and against

It is not what would be expected though, fir a team riding high. An unusual happening.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:38 pm

No surprise for me. He was rubbish

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:11 pm

It is not what would be expected though, fir a team riding high. An unusual happening.

You might want to take a look at why we are riding high, what the team's strengths are.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:15 pm

You might want to take a look at why we are riding high, what the team's strengths are.

I get all that. My original post started with: It's funny that.. simply because it is an unusual occurrence. Nothing more or less. Usually top teams are winning through goals scored at one end and less going in at the other.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:09 pm

Yes. However, that's what makes it unusual.

When you concede as few goals as we do, we're bound to be doing well in the table.

Thankfully they haven't all been 0-0.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:27 pm

I get all that. My original post started with: It's funny that.. simply because it is an unusual occurrence. Nothing more or less. Usually top teams are winning through goals scored at one end and less going in at the other.

That’s what is happening though? We’re just scoring 1 or 2 and conceding 0 or 1. Usually 0.

MDWat wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:35 pm

That’s what is happening though? We’re just scoring 1 or 2 and conceding 0 or 1. Usually 0.

That's unusual and why all our top rankings are the defenders - which is probably unique. That's my only point!

Goliath wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:38 pm

No surprise for me. He was rubbish

Good utility player and put a shift in. Made about 7 million profit. Could do with more of that rubbish

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:01 pm

Good utility player and put a shift in. Made about 7 million profit. Could do with more of that rubbish

I'd prefer us to sign players with football intelligence and ability rather than hope some daft clubs come along and give us money for poor players.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:00 pm

Should do a count from those who 1) know what / have a clue what football is 2) aren’t over emotional children after not winning. I’d be interested in seeing the contrast in average scores.

But would that poll be any more accurate? Your way there would only be about five or six people's votes getting counted/averaged, so an insufficient number to be considered valid

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:00 pm

Should do a count from those who 1) know what / have a clue what football is 2) aren’t over emotional children after not winning. I’d be interested in seeing the contrast in average scores.

Are you the nominated person to make that judgement call on each of us?

Most people who make statements like that have a larger than average ego...

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:23 pm

Are you the nominated person to make that judgement call on each of us?

Most people who make statements like that have a larger than average ego...

Oh you’d 100% not be included, on both counts

Goliath wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:38 pm

No surprise for me. He was rubbish

Ok DA. No more accounts now.