• The Worst Decision Since ... When?

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:54 pm**

Watching the game today at a friend's house and the Coventry goal is such an easy offside decision to give.

It's laughably simple. There isn't a single Burnley player in between him and the goalline, let alone two.

Anyway, it got me thinking about those dreadful decisions that were so bad you can still recall them years later.

That Coventry goal is the worst decision since ... Lee Mason and the handball on the line in the opening minutes vs Preston waaay back in 2007.

Worst decision since when?

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:07 pm**

Offside at Ewood?

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:22 pm**

I'm still reeling from the non-foul, non-red card when the Norwich keeper (Krul?) smashed Vydra square in the chops.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:24 pm**

Lots of poor decisions are at least excused by interpretation

That non-offside today is completely inexcusable
It's black and white. And obvious

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:30 pm**

Incompetence. Dreadful decision that no team deserves.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:37 pm**

Shocking, when he caught the ball at Pompey and we didn't get a penalty was the worst one this season I think.

The worst one I can remember is when Meslier fouled Barnes, we scored. Goal disallowed, what made this worst is var inability to sort too.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:13 pm**

That Leeds one when their GK nearly broke Ben Mees back and we didnt get Barnes goal

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:29 pm**

The Krul punch Vs Norwich would've kept us up if we'd scored the penalty?

And VAR rubber stamped it!

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:45 pm**

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:13 pm
That Leeds one when their GK nearly broke Ben Mees back and we didnt get Barnes goal

Furthermore this one was backed up by VAR

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:48 pm**

I actually think that might be the worst decision I've ever seen against us. It's so blatantly obvious even from first viewing that you have to wonder what the linesman was even looking at.
Thank God it hasn't cost us.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:51 pm**

A primary school kid could have given that offside today. It's about as basic a decision as there possibly is.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:53 pm**

ClaretLoup wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:45 pm
Furthermore this one was backed up by VAR

Not quite - there was VAR but they unable to intervene because the ref had blown up so early.

In the same game, VAR rubber stamped a penalty which shouldn’t have been given where Pope clearly got the ball.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:54 pm**

Perfect example today of decisions evening themselves out over a season, we've had at least two offside decisions go our way. I'd still rather have it this way than sit through 5 minutes of line drawing by VAR. Bring in automated offsides and I'll say different though.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:06 pm**

The Roberts sending off vs Boro (I think) in the Kompany promotion season. Ref sent him off for handball when the ball had bounced off the bar

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:08 pm**

G0foste wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:37 pm
Shocking, when he caught the ball at Pompey and we didn't get a penalty was the worst one this season I think.

The worst one I can remember is when Meslier fouled Barnes, we scored. Goal disallowed, what made this worst is var inability to sort too.

Jones was the ref....and worryingly he hasn't improved

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:09 pm**

It’s horrendously bad. Linesman should be demoted several leagues for a major error.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:10 pm**

It was so obvious, it really must have somehow blinded the linesman.
Very, very poor.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:00 pm**

I posted on the highlights thread, watch the Coventry goal in slow motion, the ball loops up off Roberts left arm (who's on the floor when the shot comes in) to Haji Wright, so I presume that's onside according to the current rules?

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:01 pm**

robinoz wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:00 pm
I posted on the highlights thread, watch the Coventry goal in slow motion, the ball loops up off Roberts left arm (who's on the floor when the shot comes in) to Haji Wright, so I presume that's onside according to the current rules?

It isn't

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:11 pm**

Row x wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:08 pm
Jones was the ref....and worryingly he hasn't improved

Ah but he does have a lovely haircut.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:17 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:54 pm
Perfect example today of decisions evening themselves out over a season, we've had at least two offside decisions go our way. I'd still rather have it this way than sit through 5 minutes of line drawing by VAR. Bring in automated offsides and I'll say different though.

Hopefully true. With the amount of clear penalties not given in our favour this year, we will be due loads of dodgy ones in our final games

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:28 pm**

I was certain the goal would have been disallowed today, last time I felt like that only for the goal to stand was the foul on Trafford against Luton when we drew 1 all last season. As per Rooster's post though, that was down to interpretation so not as bad a decision as today

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:31 pm**

There were a few against Arsenal.......details fuzzy.

Defo offside today.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:44 pm**

Does anyone have a good still shot? I have a suspicion, that whilst clearly onside, Roberts’ outstretched leg wasn’t a million miles from being level with their striker. It’s a howler for sure, but maybe closer than first thought.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:45 pm**

Ball getting sent off against B@stards, still cant believe he got sent off for that.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:46 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:44 pm
Does anyone have a good still shot? I have a suspicion, that whilst clearly onside, Roberts’ outstretched leg wasn’t a million miles from being level with their striker. It’s a howler for sure, but maybe closer than first thought.

Trafford played him offside as well.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:47 pm**

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:53 pm
Not quite - there was VAR but they unable to intervene because the ref had blown up so early.

In the same game, VAR rubber stamped a penalty which shouldn’t have been given where Pope clearly got the ball.

VAR should have 'given' us a penalty for the attack on Mee, the latter having been penalised wrongly.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:47 pm**

robinoz wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:00 pm
I posted on the highlights thread, watch the Coventry goal in slow motion, the ball loops up off Roberts left arm (who's on the floor when the shot comes in) to Haji Wright, so I presume that's onside according to the current rules?

If Roberts played the ball under control and under no pressure, that would kill the offside. If Roberts was blocking a shot, then the offside stands.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:49 pm**

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:46 pm
Trafford played him offside as well.

Did he actually? If so then that’s a ridiculous decision.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:54 pm**

He came back from an offdide position before the ball hit Roberts anyway, so he was offside twice wasn't he?

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:05 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:09 pm
It’s horrendously bad. Linesman should be demoted several leagues for a major error.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:06 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:44 pm
Does anyone have a good still shot? I have a suspicion, that whilst clearly onside, Roberts’ outstretched leg wasn’t a million miles from being level with their striker. It’s a howler for sure, but maybe closer than first thought.

He’s that far offside it’s impossible to get them on the same camera shot
Seriously though the fact that he was goal side of Trafford too, makes it a hard to fathom decision

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:07 pm**

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I stand corrected. Even more clear cut than I thought. Horrendous decision.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:11 pm**

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:13 pm
That Leeds one when their GK nearly broke Ben Mees back and we didnt get Barnes goal

ClaretLoup wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:45 pm
Furthermore this one was backed up by VAR

VAR couldn’t get involved because Jones had already blown.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:13 pm**

The last minute goal against us by Koscienly for Arsenal in September/October 2016

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:13 pm**

Obviously I’m at the other end today so just saw our players clearly upset with the decision.

Quickly told it was offside and saw the still pic at half time and have now seen it on the highlights package.

It’s hard to fathom how on earth the assistant hasn’t flagged that. Appalling decision.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:19 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:11 pm
VAR couldn’t get involved because Jones had already blown.

VAR could still have given the penalty. The ref didn't blow until after the foul.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:20 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:49 pm
Did he actually? If so then that’s a ridiculous decision.

Yes. There needs to be 2 “defending” players between the attacker and goal

Even if Roberts was the only player between Wright and the goal, he would have been offside

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:22 pm**

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:20 pm
Yes. There needs to be 2 “defending” players between the attacker and goal

Even if Roberts was the only player between Wright and the goal, he would have been offside

Yes, I understand the offside law. I just hadn’t realised that their player was also well beyond Trafford as well as Roberts as the Sky+ production isn’t great.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:22 pm**

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:54 pm
Watching the game today at a friend's house and the Coventry goal is such an easy offside decision to give.

It's laughably simple. There isn't a single Burnley player in between him and the goalline, let alone two.

Anyway, it got me thinking about those dreadful decisions that were so bad you can still recall them years later.

That Coventry goal is the worst decision since ... Lee Mason and the handball on the line in the opening minutes vs Preston waaay back in 2007.

Worst decision since when?

The Lee Mason v Preston one is always my benchmark for terrible decisions. You can get stuff wrong but he saw that clear as day as we all did and just bottled it. Nothing he did in his career after that changed my mind about him.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:26 pm**

The person who dressed the Sky Sports presenter right now. He seems to be dressed as a Russian peasant for some reason

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:27 pm**

Sky sports news. Very odd

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:30 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:13 pm

It’s hard to fathom how on earth the assistant hasn’t flagged that. Appalling decision.

That's the worrying bit, he must have seen it. Either he is a very poor official... or something else !

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:26 pm**

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:19 pm
VAR could still have given the penalty. The ref didn't blow until after the foul.

It was explained at the time - VAR could not intervene once the referee had blown his whistle for the non foul

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:37 pm**

Koscielny when we played Arsenal. Infact most of the games we played against Arsenal. They were such cheats.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:40 pm**

Aclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:30 pm
That's the worrying bit, he must have seen it. Either he is a very poor official... or something else !

Have to say, when you see them THAT bad you do start to question the something else…!

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:57 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:26 pm
It was explained at the time - VAR could not intervene once the referee had blown his whistle for the non foul

I've seen many incidents where the ref has stopped play for something else and VAR has brought it back to give a penalty. Wasn't it against Bournemouth where the ref had given Bournemouth a goal and brought it back for a penalty to us? It happens.

VAR couldn't give the goal because the whistle blew before the ball was in the net, but VAR's jurisdiction over penalties goes on until play stops and has restarted. The next whistle doesn't stop it.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:04 pm**

Another shocker this season was Anthony’s goal ruled out in the 0-0 draw away at WBA.

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:07 pm**

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:22 pm
I'm still reeling from the non-foul, non-red card when the Norwich keeper (Krul?) smashed Vydra square in the chops.

This

Posted: **Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:25 pm**

The other bad decision that came to mind when I wrote the OP hasn't been mentioned - the "non goal" against Brighton in 2016.

At the time, a defeat would have curtailed our 23 unbeaten at number 16 and given Brighton a psychological boost in the promotion race.

As it is, we scored a near identical goal a few minutes later and got the JUSTICE we deserved.

This incident would surely have been more prominently remembered if it had proved crucial or decisive in the game or -shudder- even in clinching promotion or not. Obviously we won the league at a canter in the end but if we hadn't remained unbeaten who knows how things would have panned out?

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