Fixing the Sky coverage

[martin_p]

Looks like ITV have decided to spare Sky’s blushes by allowing them to dub proper commentary onto our first goal (which they completely missed live) and the first sending off

[Greenmile]

I think football highlights shows have always done this. I seem to remember hearing the famous “would you believe it” commentary (Martin Tyler on Tony Adams) was re-recorded after the event, and MotD does it all the time.

Also, in fairness to Sky, Trafford’s save deserved a replay or six!

[DCWat]

The red button coverage is full on amateur. Commentators mention x player and camera pans to said player whilst the game is going on (and he’s not involved). Add that to multiple shots of managers or the crowd whilst the game is in play. Today’s took the biscuit when they completely missed the goal. Just show the game and replays at an appropriate break in play!

[dsr]

And for the red card, not only did the cameras miss it, but the commentators said there was a red card but didn't say which player or team had got it.

[claretgimmer]

Did he not say " has there Jeff "? Kammy is back

[Woodleyclaret]

Sky's showing managers and personalities " watching the game is irritating beyond belief as is the nonsense of showing teams arriving and the next match teams on screen when the first game as at least 40mins left Last nights coverage was amateurish in the extreme as most of Sky+ is.I noticed Sheffield United and DL got proper coverage while we had to suffer with the rest of the EFL.

[Burnleyareback2]

I’m grateful for being able to watch so many of the away games.

But it’s is rubbish. The first red card was completely missed, then finally the analysis was that it was down to Fleming retaliating to something else. Seemed pretty clear to me it was due to Fleming pushing the player back into his own half at the kick off.

Back in the Premier league we can go back to the commentators forgetting to mention us…

[Clovius Boofus]

Red Button resources, from commentators, camera crews to sound engineers, are spread too thin. It's better than nowt, though.

[agreenwood]

The main camera seemed to fall off its stand/perch at one point in the first half and the picture was as lob-sided for a short time. Made me feel sea sick watching it.

[Roosterbooster]

Are the commentators at the game or watching the live pictures only?

[burnmark]

Are the commentators at the game or watching the live pictures only?

Watching live pictures.

[Devils_Advocate]

In Sky's defence for our first incident they looked to be trying to get a replay which clearly showed that Trafford made the save as the first few replays were unclear and at the time I was wanting them to find a good angle of it. It then took seconds to get from Egan-Riley on the edge of our box to the back of the net so I can understand why it was missed albeit being very frustrating

For the sending off there was no reason why the cameras should have been focusing in on their player and Flemming as it came out of nowhere and off the ball. You'd need to be a clairvoyant to know that was going to happen and have the camera's pointed at it. Im guessing the commentators missed it and were as confused as everyone else trying to work out exactly what had happened hence again the viewers not knowing who had been sent off and why for a minute or two.

[wilks_bfc]

In Sky's defence for our first incident they looked to be trying to get a replay which clearly showed that Trafford made the save as the first few replays were unclear and at the time I was wanting them to find a good angle of it. It then took seconds to get from Egan-Riley on the edge of our box to the back of the net so I can understand why it was missed albeit being very frustrating

For the sending off there was no reason why the cameras should have been focusing in on their player and Flemming as it came out of nowhere and off the ball. You'd need to be a clairvoyant to know that was going to happen and have the camera's pointed at it. Im guessing the commentators missed it and were as confused as everyone else trying to work out exactly what had happened hence again the viewers not knowing who had been sent off and why for a minute or two.

I think for the first sending off, everyone missed the first yellow card to Sissoko, which happened before the push, which is why there was initial confusion in thinking he had got a straight red

[Grimsdale]

The main camera seemed to fall off its stand/perch at one point in the first half and the picture was as lob-sided for a short time. Made me feel sea sick watching it.

I thought the game had somehow been transported to Yeovil when that happened.

[Hendrickxz]

Do you reckon they had a support for the camera? I thought it was a 7 year old kid filming on an iPhone! Worst yet and missing the first Burnley goal was inexcusable.

[Tricky Trevor]

In Sky's defence for our first incident they looked to be trying to get a replay which clearly showed that Trafford made the save as the first few replays were unclear and at the time I was wanting them to find a good angle of it. It then took seconds to get from Egan-Riley on the edge of our box to the back of the net so I can understand why it was missed albeit being very frustrating

For the sending off there was no reason why the cameras should have been focusing in on their player and Flemming as it came out of nowhere and off the ball. You'd need to be a clairvoyant to know that was going to happen and have the camera's pointed at it. Im guessing the commentators missed it and were as confused as everyone else trying to work out exactly what had happened hence again the viewers not knowing who had been sent off and why for a minute or two.

I forgive them. Nobody has ever seen Trafford get rid of the ball that quick., normally you have time for a nap.

[Plissken]

Watching live pictures.

And therein lies the problem. Sky aren't going to send commentators and producers to every game, so they do it at a single hub - can't remember where, but there is an article on The Athletic about it.

So the commentators are commentating on the same thing that we are seeing and at the mercy of the director and what he/she is choosing to show. And here is the rub - the director wasn't wrong to show a couple of replays of the Trafford save. It was a superb save and deserved replays. They just got caught out by the ball going back into play and down the other end so swiftly and it actually ending in a goal. Confluence of events.

Same with the first sending off - no-one caught on camera what was going on and they are not in the ground to spot it, so the commentators are as confused as the viewer, with the added problem of being expected to know. Thinking back to it, remember the Zidane sending off in the 2006 World Cup Final? The most covered football match in the world, with hundreds of the top people in the field producing, filming and commentating on it and none of them knew what was going on until someone managed to find a replay from one of the side cameras.

The people producing the coverage have far less resources to play with, are based remotely and just were the victims of an unfortunate series of events. The bad thing for them is that their mistakes are live.

It's a bloody difficult job. I'm happy to criticise commentators for how they do the gig - God knows I've been vocal enough about Clarets+ in the past - but not what they have to deal with. It is a live production where the crew have absolutely zero control over events they are covering and people need to cut them some slack for it.