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We said Vinny

See he does remember us .

Why wouldn’t he. Winning the championship at the first attempt is not easy. Probably harder than winning the Bundesliga with Bayern

Irritating, ignorant interviewer.

Nice one VK. Pompous interviewer corrected and VK obviously sees that championship season as important in his fledgling career as a coach. 101 points in his first EFL season is still very impressive and he is obviously proud of that.

The best season we've had in my lifetime, even better than qualifying for Europe. I've never seen us play the football he had us playing and he revolutionised our transfer policy. It all culminating in winning the league at Ewood. Yes the season after was poor. But he gets far too much stick.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:39 am

The best season we've had in my lifetime, even better than qualifying for Europe..

Me too. Fairytale stuff to win the league at Ewood.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:39 am

The best season we've had in my lifetime, even better than qualifying for Europe. I've never seen us play the football he had us playing and he revolutionised our transfer policy. It all culminating in winning the league at Ewood. Yes the season after was poor. But he gets far too much stick.

Agree with all Pickles says until the last sentence. Amazing season playing some champagne football followed by one of the worst seasons ever.
But the thing that sticks in my mind is VK’s treatment of JBG in that training session. I’m afraid I lost all my respect for him. I wasn’t sorry to see him go in the end.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:45 pm

Agree with all Pickles says until the last sentence. Amazing season playing some champagne football followed by one of the worst seasons ever.
But the thing that sticks in my mind is VK’s treatment of JBG in that training session. I’m afraid I lost all my respect for him. I wasn’t sorry to see him go in the end.

One short clip of a manager shouting at a player who has a reputation of being moody. Hardly a reason to lose all respect for somebody.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:45 pm

But the thing that sticks in my mind is VK’s treatment of JBG in that training session. I’m afraid I lost all my respect for him.

There won't be a manager in the world since the game began who hasn't spoken to a player like that.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:30 pm

There won't be a manager in the world since the game began who hasn't spoken to a player like that.

I’d put good money on that not being true. In fact, I don’t reckon Parker has. Neville and Carragher said they’d rarely seen it.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:32 pm

I’d put good money on that not being true. In fact, I don’t reckon Parker has. Neville and Carragher said they’d rarely seen it.

With all the stress of a relegation battle, I'd be gobsmacked if Kompany is in the minority of shouting at his players. Do you think Pep has never shouted at his players? Mourinho? Ferguson?

Pickles wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:34 pm

With all the stress of a relegation battle, I'd be gobsmacked if Kompany is in the minority of shouting at his players. Do you think Pep has never shouted at his players? Mourinho? Ferguson?

Choosing a few examples of fairly shouty type of managers still doesn’t quite get us to ‘all managers since football began’ .

I think Kompany came across as a bit more than shouting anyway, he was practically squaring up to a senior player & Burnley fan favourite, it’s not surprising it upset a few.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:41 pm

Choosing a few examples of fairly shouty type of managers still doesn’t quite get us to ‘all managers since football began’ .

I think Kompany came across as a bit more than shouting anyway, he was practically squaring up to a senior player & Burnley fan favourite, it’s not surprising it upset a few.

I honestly think the reaction was over-egged. Fans pine for more behind-the-scenes access and when they get it, their reaction to what they see is blown out of proportion. I'm not saying it's right, or the most effective way to manage, but I really think interactions like that happen all the time in football. We just don't see them. But hey, it's okay to disagree!

Alan Young wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:15 pm

One short clip of a manager shouting at a player who has a reputation of being moody. Hardly a reason to lose all respect for somebody.

VK quite clearly lost all his self control. In some ways it was understandable when you think of the pressure he must have been under but for me, it was a poor example of management and man-management.
He should have been much more professional and call me naive if you want to but I expected much better from him.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:55 pm

VK quite clearly lost all his self control. In some ways it was understandable when you think of the pressure he must have been under but for me, it was a poor example of management and man-management.
He should have been much more professional and call me naive if you want to but I expected much better from him.

When the results were there folk hardly/never complained about the treatment it's only when the results started nosediving (PL) people had issue. I lost some respect for people for not being consistent bad man management is bad man management irrespective of results.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:05 pm

When the results were there folk hardly/never complained about the treatment it's only when the results started nosediving (PL) people had issue. I lost some respect for people for not being consistent bad man management is bad man management irrespective of results.

When the results were there, we never saw any examples of that behaviour, that’s why.
I’m surprised you think it’s acceptable to treat players in that way.
It can’t be conducive to getting the best out of them.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:09 pm

When the results were there, we never saw any examples of that behaviour, that’s why.
I’m surprised you think it’s acceptable to treat players in that way.
It can’t be conducive to getting the best out of them.

The mission fo burnley documentary lent itself to be giving off clues about his demeanour & style of management I don't think he could complete a sentence without some sort of expletive.

Maybe so, but most weren’t aimed at anyone in particular, unlike the 15 or so aimed at JBG.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:05 pm

When the results were there folk hardly/never complained about the treatment it's only when the results started nosediving (PL) people had issue. I lost some respect for people for not being consistent bad man management is bad man management irrespective of results.

Please quote your posts where you called out Kompany’s bad management during our Championship winning season.

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:18 pm

Please quote your posts where you called out Kompany’s bad management during our Championship winning season.

Some of us when the documentary aired questioned the necessity of the foul language & his behaviour but such was the godlike status he commanded quickly got silenced. Some people tried it was futile & here we are now.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:23 pm

Some of us when the documentary aired questioned the necessity of the foul language & his behaviour but such was the godlike status he commanded quickly got silenced. Some people tried it was futile & here we are now.

Please quote your posts where you called out Kompany’s bad management when things were going well. Bad management is bad management, after all.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:23 pm

...... & here we are now.

On the verge of a return to the PL with a seemingly decent man in charge who needs all our support for the next 24 hours.....

Claretnick wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:29 pm

On the verge of a return to the PL with a seemingly decent man in charge who needs all our support for the next 24 hours.....

Sometimes things are a blessing. I was more referring to calling out kompany when things were going sh1tshaped & not before. The style of management didn't really alter division to division the only thing that changed the results is coming up against better players. Kompany didn't change the teams we faced changed.

“Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today….”.

They say the definition of madness is repeating the same mistakes over and over again expecting a different outcome.
We all realise how difficult the Premier League is but VK was the architect of our downfall in that season.

People need to go back and watch the first series again. He was shouting and bawling like that in training sessions then. Singling out players after the qpr home defeat to the whole group in the dressing room wasn’t great either… difference is, non of us were that bothered because we’d just won the league

If Bayern can tempt Alonso from Leverkusen think Kompany will be gone this summer.

Alonso is going to Madrid.

VK was great in our promotion season but once he realised he couldn't cut it in the Premier league he bailed. What was disappointing some players he signed also left and let us down.We sign players to be part of our growth at BFC not bottle at the first sign of trouble.Anass Zaroury and Amdouni were particularly ones who wanted out once VK left.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:41 pm

VK was great in our promotion season but once he realised he couldn't cut it in the Premier league he bailed. What was disappointing some players he signed also left and let us down.We sign players to be part of our growth at BFC not bottle at the first sign of trouble.Anass Zaroury and Amdouni were particularly ones who wanted out once VK left.

He bailed because one of the biggest clubs in Europe came calling. It won't have had anything to do with a lack of self-confidence.

You can dress it up any way you want but he bailed as soon as a better offer came in.
I’m glad he went and I think he was the luckiest of lucky managers.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 7:21 pm

You can dress it up any way you want but he bailed as soon as a better offer came in.
I’m glad he went and I think he was the luckiest of lucky managers.

He wasn’t lucky, he was pretty incredible in his first season with us.

It’s probably for the best that he left because things seemingly turned sour in the second season, but looking back I don’t think anyone would’ve kept us up. We would’ve stood a better chance with Maatsen, Harwood-Bellis and Tella but we’ll never know.

Thankfully the board have made another good appointment, even though he wouldn’t have been my initial choice. Shows what us fans know.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 7:21 pm

You can dress it up any way you want but he bailed as soon as a better offer came in.
I’m glad he went and I think he was the luckiest of lucky managers.

No manager turns down the Bayern Munich job in equivalent circumstances. He was fortunate to be offered the job, but irrelevant to the point.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 7:21 pm

You can dress it up any way you want but he bailed as soon as a better offer came in.
I’m glad he went and I think he was the luckiest of lucky managers.

Indeed. I can't believe he didn't turn down the Bayern job to manage Burnley in the championship again. Surely the pinnacle of any manager's career.

Maybe it's time for a "Who was luckier: Coyle or Kompany?" thread.

I will be ever grateful for Kompany giving me the best season watching the Clarets in my lifetime by a distance, and topped off by being at Ewood when we won the Championship.

Yes, last season was hard to take. But we will be able to judge how bad it was, if we go up in the next couple of games.

The Hung Juror wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:26 pm

I will be ever grateful for Kompany giving me the best season watching the Clarets in my lifetime by a distance, and topped off by being at Ewood when we won the Championship.

Yes, last season was hard to take. But we will be able to judge how bad it was, if we go up in the next couple of games.

I'm pretty certain that Parker will have more idea how to set a team up to survive in the EPL should we go up. Assuming that Pace doesn't sell the ranch.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:30 pm

There won't be a manager in the world since the game began who hasn't spoken to a player like that.

Can you imagine if they'd filmed Stan !!

Got to laugh when you read that someone thinks a Burnley manager is somehow 'bailing out' when Bayern Munich come knocking. Makes our fan-base look utterly delusional.

Alan Young wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:15 pm

One short clip of a manager shouting at a player who has a reputation of being moody. Hardly a reason to lose all respect for somebody.

While I generally think VK gets too much of a bad rap from some, particularly on here, I did think that was a real loss of control from him. It was a bit more than just shouting, he was going for him. Also, did JBG have a reputation for being ‘moody’?

I find his reaction and treatment of Gudmundsson a different watch to some on here.

There's a difference between shouting as in a raising a voice or being 'firm'. To shouting that is aggressive or intimidating in nature.

Some will say all shouting is aggressive in some nature but I guess in the context its used it seems different.

Kompanys rant crossed the line of belittling and intimidating a senior pro at the club. The result of this and this style probably attributed to some players not wanting to be at the club which makes you wonder if they were playing for the manager at all. While your winning it's easier to take, but when the results are poor and the pressure is building it's a recipe for disaster.

While I think it's normal that managers shout at players and teams quite often and even use lots of foul language, I'm not sure you'll see that many that lose control in this manor and attempt to 'bully' and 'goad' a senior pro infront of the squad. The reaction from players like Brownhill said a lot.

Conroy92 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:34 am

Kompanys rant crossed the line of belittling and intimidating a senior pro at the club. The result of this and this style probably attributed to some players not wanting to be at the club which makes you wonder if they were playing for the manager at all. While your winning it's easier to take, but when the results are poor and the pressure is building it's a recipe for disaster.

Agree with all this comment. Football makes people passionate and we can be a bit rough round the edges when communicating. It was a step beyond that. It was poor, you'd apologise if you did similar.

Vinny is arrogant and he always has been. The Premier League season was grim, properly grim to the extent that Parker has done an amazing job getting the club on a level. For me Vinny will be viewed like Coyle given time. Boro away was incredible, I did the derby as well but Boro away was different. The whole promotion season was over the top emotion, a bit like a sugar high. It was amazing but it was short lived and the ending deeply unpleasant. He will just be an afterword and Benson/Zaroury/Beyer/Tella et al will be the ones revered and spoken about fondly.

It hasn't been like that this year. I think Parker is a better fit for us temperamentally. He's walked into a bad situation and we will look back on this season with more warmth than it has received at the time. I think a lot of the reaction to draws and goalless halves has to be viewed through the perspective of what we sat through at home last year. There was deep malaise in the club, remember all the threads on connection. Parker has fixed a lot. Get us over the line and then it is unconditional for a couple of years. This is huge for Parker as well, a proper historic club with a proper support.

Pretty much a minimum requirement for him to win the BL . knocked out German cup and QF in CL is a reasonable 1st season , though to have Kane on fire was huge for them .

Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:09 am

Got to laugh when you read that someone thinks a Burnley manager is somehow 'bailing out' when Bayern Munich come knocking. Makes our fan-base look utterly delusional.

What is it about some posters on this board feeling like they have to belittle others?
It’s all about opinions and if you don’t agree with what is posted, try keeping your reply civilised.
Burnley was supposed to be VK’s big project in his managerial career. BM may be a massive club but as far as I’m concerned, he still bailed out.
I disagree with you but that’s what these boards are about- healthy debate, not point scoring.

HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:37 pm

What is it about some posters on this board feeling like they have to belittle others?
It’s all about opinions and if you don’t agree with what is posted, try keeping your reply civilised.
Burnley was supposed to be VK’s big project in his managerial career. BM may be a massive club but as far as I’m concerned, he still bailed out.
I disagree with you but that’s what these boards are about- healthy debate, not point scoring.

I wouldn’t quite have put it like that but agree with your sentiment entirely.

Inchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 21, 2025 10:27 pm

I wouldn’t quite have put it like that but agree with your sentiment entirely.

Careful Inchy, you’ll end up with a reputation for being reasonable!