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Information from States side

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:13 pm
by Yorkshirelad

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:45 pm
by Cheshireclaret
That article doesn't explicitly say The Cynosure Group will be investing in Burnley, although the assumption is that our club will be the target for some of this £900m they are looking to invest across a number of 'projects'.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:54 pm
by GetIntoEm
Sounds like good news

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:28 am
by claretlegend
Do we know who the Chinese gentleman was in the directors box on Monday? I'm sure there were rumours of Chinese investment a year or two ago.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:41 am
by Yorkshirelad
Cheshireclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:45 pm
That article doesn't explicitly say The Cynosure Group will be investing in Burnley, although the assumption is that our club will be the target for some of this £900m they are looking to invest across a number of 'projects'.
The only reason I posted it was I was sent it by a USA claret and I thought it maybe of interest and people with more knowledge than me on the financial side could pick the bones of it

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:30 am
by NewClaret
Yorkshirelad wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:41 am
The only reason I posted it was I was sent it by a USA claret and I thought it maybe of interest and people with more knowledge than me on the financial side could pick the bones of it
Thanks for posting, sounds really promising. I certainly feel we need a significant investor to take that next step now.

I think our Board’s financial contacts are underestimated by some. Here we have a director partnering with a firm chaired by an ex vice chair of the Federal Reserve. These guys know people who know people.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:44 am
by NewClaret
claretlegend wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:28 am
Do we know who the Chinese gentleman was in the directors box on Monday? I'm sure there were rumours of Chinese investment a year or two ago.
No idea about Monday. There are a number of what I would assume are quite small scale investors from Hong Kong and Singapore from memory. There are also some of the younger members of the Kwok family (Asia’s 5th richest family) invested. The Chief of Staff is also from Singapore. Could be any of those guys or delegates of.

Not aware of any Chinese investors.

Chester - if you’re reading, do you know who the two guys on the pitch were with Alan Pace and Stuart Hunt after the match? I’m losing track of faces and names.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:52 am
by claretlegend
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:44 am
No idea about Monday. There are a number of what I would assume are quite small scale investors from Hong Kong and Singapore from memory. There are also some of the younger members of the Kwok family (Asia’s 5th richest family) invested. The Chief of Staff is also from Singapore. Could be any of those guys or delegates of.

Not aware of any Chinese investors.

Chester - if you’re reading, do you know who the two guys on the pitch were with Alan Pace and Stuart Hunt after the match? I’m losing track of faces and names.
Thanks NewClaret, probably one of the existing investors then.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:57 am
by NewClaret
claretlegend wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:52 am
Thanks NewClaret, probably one of the existing investors then.
No problem.

Sense I get is that we’ve got quite a wide investor base from high net worth individuals, which is both a strength - lots of expertise and connections - but maybe a weakness in terms of not having one big financial backer. A fund like this one mentioned could be really helpful.

Having said all that, Alan Pace did say he was in Asia recently, so maybe this has all changed. I guess we’ll find out in time.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:59 am
by Clive 1960
claretlegend wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:28 am
Do we know who the Chinese gentleman was in the directors box on Monday? I'm sure there were rumours of Chinese investment a year or two ago.
I believe that was the gentleman who was at Norwich game when Dyche was manager and was looking to invest maybe he's come back with us going up, who knows...

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:08 am
by NewClaret
Clive 1960 wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:59 am
I believe that was the gentleman who was at Norwich game when Dyche was manager and was looking to invest maybe he's come back with us going up, who knows...
Is that because you have recognised him or something you’ve been told?

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:22 am
by Clive 1960
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:08 am
Is that because you have recognised him or something you’ve been told?
It might be someone else who knows but i heard someone was looking at investing in us but it didn't happen it could be the same gentleman or someone else, but we need investment to go forward as we need work on the cricket field stand or maybe the Bob lord ..

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:23 am
by TsarBomba
claretlegend wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:28 am
Do we know who the Chinese gentleman was in the directors box on Monday? I'm sure there were rumours of Chinese investment a year or two ago.
I asked the question after the game too, and was told it was the Chief of Staff.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:38 am
by FeedTheArf
claretlegend wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:28 am
Do we know who the Chinese gentleman was in the directors box on Monday? I'm sure there were rumours of Chinese investment a year or two ago.
Sean Bai - Chief of staff

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:53 am
by Corway
JJ Watt has 14.3 m followers on Instagram and 5.5 m on X definitely raising our profile with promotion posts getting getting lots of responses.
He gave an interview in the NY Times on March 25 on how he’s been inspired by Wrexham owners and his plans for the club - need to subscribe to see it.
His worth is £70m
Feels like things are taking off over there.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:55 am
by aggi

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:58 am
by aggi
Corway wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:53 am
JJ Watt has 14.3 m followers on Instagram and 5.5 m on X definitely raising our profile with promotion posts getting getting lots of responses.
He gave an interview in the NY Times on March 25 on how he’s been inspired by Wrexham owners and his plans for the club - need to subscribe to see it.
His worth is £70m
Feels like things are taking off over there.
That's an old interview from when he first got involved I think. They've just added another couple of bits to it.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:11 am
by steve1264b
This is potentially the most exciting opportunity yet.

The Eccles family have invested in Utah, and they maybe interested in developing a sports business in the UK. Im sure Mr Checketts has discussed Burnley (we must be as interesting as Bournemouth).

To be honest I've been surprised at the lack of interest from USA given our ownership, i had expected shirt sponsorship for example to reflect that.

The Miller family (former Jazz owners) bought Real Salt Lake this week for 600 million, they and the eccles family must have close links so investment in Burnley is small beer compared to that.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:36 am
by aggi
I wouldn't necessarily read much into this in terms of investing into Burnley, and particularly not big money. Dave Checketts has been involved across a wide range of sports, particularly US sports, over the years.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:40 am
by GetIntoEm
steve1264b wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:11 am
To be honest I've been surprised at the lack of interest from USA given our ownership, i had expected shirt sponsorship for example to reflect that.
We've had the dude perfect and Detroit sponserships. I suspect with the ban on gambling sponsors incoming we might see Detroit move to full shirt sponsor next season if the money is right

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:53 am
by Chester Perry
FeedTheArf wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:38 am
Sean Bai - Chief of staff
For those of us who forgot - including me briefly on Monday - the following thread was created when Sean Bai arrived at the club

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75543&p=2324367&hil ... i#p2324337

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:59 am
by NewClaret
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:53 am
For those of us who forgot - including me briefly on Monday - the following thread was created when Sean Bai arrived at the club

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75543&p=2324367&hil ... i#p2324337
Chester - not sure if you saw as it’s quite a way up now, but I asked if you had any idea who the guys were on the pitch with Alan and Stuart after the game on Monday.

So many faces I’ve lost track!

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:37 pm
by Chester Perry
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:59 am
Chester - not sure if you saw as it’s quite a way up now, but I asked if you had any idea who the guys were on the pitch with Alan and Stuart after the game on Monday.

So many faces I’ve lost track!
Adrian Bettridge was there as was another face who has been involved for a long time (we saw him in MtB in the online board meeting and he has been to a number of games) but who we have never identified - he was sat next to Alan Pace during the game in the Directors box

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:13 pm
by FeedTheArf
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:37 pm
Adrian Bettridge was there as was another face who has been involved for a long time (we saw him in MtB in the online board meeting and he has been to a number of games) but who we have never identified - he was sat next to Alan Pace during the game in the Directors box
If you’ve got a decent still of him it’s worth running through Google Lens, if only to satisfy the curiosity!

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:27 pm
by Chester Perry
FeedTheArf wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:13 pm
If you’ve got a decent still of him it’s worth running through Google Lens, if only to satisfy the curiosity!
don't have the app - but this is the guy
Unknown Velocity Investor.jpg
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Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:45 pm
by Buxtonclaret
He has pink horns growing out of his head to match his necklace. :o

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:29 pm
by NewClaret
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:45 pm
He has pink horns growing out of his head to match his necklace. :o
Looks dodgy as hell.

My Dad always taught me never to trust a man with pink horns.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:37 pm
by NewClaret
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:37 pm
Adrian Bettridge was there as was another face who has been involved for a long time (we saw him in MtB in the online board meeting and he has been to a number of games) but who we have never identified - he was sat next to Alan Pace during the game in the Directors box
Thanks Chester.

Odd one, he’s the CEO of Baringa Consultancy. He’ll be minted by mine and your standards, I assume, but doesn’t strike me as a major investor. Unless he’s just an advisor.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:46 pm
by Chester Perry
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:37 pm
Thanks Chester.

Odd one, he’s the CEO of Baringa Consultancy. He’ll be minted by mine and your standards, I assume, but doesn’t strike me as a major investor. Unless he’s just an advisor.
He has been around a long time with the ownership group - probably from the get-go (same with Mr unknown above) - we have discussed him before on the takeover thread. He appears to have engaged with a lot of UK based potential investors

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:56 pm
by NewClaret
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:46 pm
He has been around a long time with the ownership group - probably from the get-go (same with Mr unknown above) - we have discussed him before on the takeover thread. He appears to have engaged with a lot of UK based potential investors
Fair enough. Can’t remember discussing him but there’s so many new faces in the Directors box I lose track. Maybe represents a consortium then.

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:07 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Something to keep an eye on this then ?

Just out of curiosity after reading this thread I googled the Kwok family worth - wouldn’t mind being a few quid behind them !

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:20 pm
by Chester Perry
Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:07 pm
Something to keep an eye on this then ?

Just out of curiosity after reading this thread I googled the Kwok family worth - wouldn’t mind being a few quid behind them !
again that link was discussed on the takeover thread

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:28 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:20 pm
again that link was discussed on the takeover thread
As much as I’d like to pretend I know how to navigate to that post, it’s completely thrashing my brain, sending me all over the place .

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:02 pm
by Chester Perry
Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:28 pm
As much as I’d like to pretend I know how to navigate to that post, it’s completely thrashing my brain, sending me all over the place .
these are the posts which mention the Kuok family name

search.php?keywords=Kuok&t=49975&sf=msgonly

and Adrian Bettridge

search.php?keywords=Bettridge&t=49975&sf=msgonly

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:01 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Thanks Chester. Presumably this suggests that this is a venture for someone a few generations down from where the real mega money is?

Re: Information from States side

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:23 pm
by dsr
I don't think we need get excited about the possibility of investment in Burnley FC. It's pretty clear that when new investors want a share of the club, the money goes to Pace's companies, not to BFC. Neither he nor any of his friends have put a penny into the club - £125m the opposite way, in fact - and I don't see that changing.