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Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:11 am
by Tricky Trevor
Came across this today in my collection. Well they've earned a new one.
I love the bottom paragraph. They did.
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Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:17 am
by ClaretTony
I was wondering where that plaque is now. For years it was at the top of the players tunnel in the cricket field stand but it was before they moved the tunnel that I last saw it.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:22 am
by ClaretTony
"As an incentive to all the players of the club to maintain and if possible surpass the results before set forth"

Dawson, Halley, Boyle, Watson, Anderson, Kelly to name but six. Will these players of today be remembered in over a century?

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:24 am
by mybloodisclaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:22 am
"As an incentive to all the players of the club to maintain and if possible surpass the results before set forth"

Dawson, Halley, Boyle, Watson, Anderson, Kelly to name but six. Will these players of today be remembered in over a century?
I would hope so. It really is an enormous achievement, which has required a great deal of effort, determination and coaching.
Definitely time for a new plaque.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:31 am
by steve1264b
We had this chat in 2023, i think its very disconcerting that we are unable to identify where this plaque is.

I always loved seeing it at the players tunnel.

I definitely think the club should do the same thing to commemorate the achievement and put the two of them together.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:03 am
by gawthorpe_view
steve1264b wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:31 am
We had this chat in 2023, i think its very disconcerting that we are unable to identify where this plaque is.

I always loved seeing it at the players tunnel.

I definitely think the club should do the same thing to commemorate the achievement and put the two of them together.
It appears to be located in the Centenary Suite.

https://burnleyfcevents.com/facilities/centenary-suite/

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:10 am
by nil_desperandum
There’s a clear case for having the 2 plaques alongside each other as there’s a clear distinction between the two
The 30 was in the top tier
Whatever number this eventually reaches it is in the 2nd tier
Both are remarkable achievements

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:49 am
by billyhamilton82
I remember my Grandad and a few others from the elder generation waxing lyrical about "Halley, Boyle and Watson" in that order.

Not sure why those three were mentioned all the time, I think Watson was captain?

Who do you think we will wax lyrical about from this season in 30 years time :D ?

Esteve, Brownhill and Egan Riley?

Trafford, Anthony and Brownhill?

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:09 pm
by Tricky Trevor
billyhamilton82 wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:49 am
I remember my Grandad and a few others from the elder generation waxing lyrical about "Halley, Boyle and Watson" in that order.

Not sure why those three were mentioned all the time, I think Watson was captain?

Who do you think we will wax lyrical about from this season in 30 years time :D ?

Esteve, Brownhill and Egan Riley?

Trafford, Anthony and Brownhill?
They were 4,5 &6. It tripped off the tongue.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:11 pm
by FCBurnley
We are witnessing modern day history

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:45 pm
by Selby Claret
Bloody Oldham putting two past us

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:52 pm
by nil_desperandum
Our record at Championship level in the past decade is incredible. If we can remain unbeaten at 33 games until the end of the season, we will have a good chance of extending that number should we return to this level in the next year or two. (Not that I look forward to relegation of course)

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:47 pm
by bfcmik
nil_desperandum wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:52 pm
Our record at Championship level in the past decade is incredible. If we can remain unbeaten at 33 games until the end of the season, we will have a good chance of extending that number should we return to this level in the next year or two. (Not that I look forward to relegation of course)
Our 23 undefeated run was broken in the 1st game of our next Championship season!

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:59 pm
by nil_desperandum
bfcmik wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:47 pm
Our 23 undefeated run was broken in the 1st game of our next Championship season!
Was it?
I don't recall that. We lost our first game on our return to the PL, but i didn't think we lost our first game following relegation back to the Championship.
Without checking I thought we beat Huddersfield away? Our first defeat was at Watford I think.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:07 pm
by bfcmik
nil_desperandum wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:59 pm
Was it?
I don't recall that. We lost our first game on our return to the PL, but i didn't think we lost our first game following relegation back to the Championship.
Without checking I thought we beat Huddersfield away? Our first defeat was at Watford I think.
You may be right, my memory for detail fails me too often these days :oops:

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:36 pm
by k90bfc
I bet the plaque is lying along side the Players Portraits which were outside the ground around Turf Moor,the Chairman does not like them,all he is bothered about is the future,no respect at all for our past memories for us older fans,and players,that is what it feels like,UTC.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:19 pm
by nil_desperandum
bfcmik wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:07 pm
You may be right, my memory for detail fails me too often these days :oops:
Same for me I'm afraid, but I think I've recalled this one correctly. (A somewhat rare occurrence these days!)

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:35 pm
by GetIntoEm
k90bfc wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:36 pm
I bet the plaque is lying along side the Players Portraits which were outside the ground around Turf Moor,the Chairman does not like them,all he is bothered about is the future,no respect at all for our past memories for us older fans,and players,that is what it feels like,UTC.
Dont talk absolute ********, the plaque is in the Centenary lounge as posted above.

The pictures wouldn't fit the style of the ground as they once were, however there's still plenty of historic stuff displayed around the club

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:07 pm
by exilecanada
billyhamilton82 wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:49 am
I remember my Grandad and a few others from the elder generation waxing lyrical about "Halley, Boyle and Watson" in that order.

Not sure why those three were mentioned all the time, I think Watson was captain?

My Grandad used to talk about 'Halley Boyle and Watson' in that order as well.

On a similar subject: The first away game I ever attended was an FA Cup tie to Stockport County in 1959, won 3-1. I can still remember Stockports goalie, two full backs and three half backs (in old money).... Lea, Betts, Webb, Porteous, Murray, Clemson. Can't remember the forward line though :( I'm 78 now, why the hell would I remember that after all these years? I can't remember what I had for bloody dinner last night :lol:

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:12 am
by mdd2
Last 4 seasons in this Division so far
P182 W107 D60 L 15 Pts 381

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:44 am
by turfytopper
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:22 am
"As an incentive to all the players of the club to maintain and if possible surpass the results before set forth"

Dawson, Halley, Boyle, Watson, Anderson, Kelly to name but six. Will these players of today be remembered in over a century?
Amazing isn't it? if i was to name Burnley's greatest ever midfield players I'd include Halley, Boyle and Watson even though I've only read of them.

Lets hope we can extend it to at least 35

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:46 am
by turfytopper
exilecanada wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:07 pm
My Grandad used to talk about 'Halley Boyle and Watson' in that order as well.

On a similar subject: The first away game I ever attended was an FA Cup tie to Stockport County in 1959, won 3-1. I can still remember Stockports goalie, two full backs and three half backs (in old money).... Lea, Betts, Webb, Porteous, Murray, Clemson. Can't remember the forward line though :( I'm 78 now, why the hell would I remember that after all these years? I can't remember what I had for bloody dinner last night :lol:
I know how you feel.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:51 am
by turfytopper
nil_desperandum wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:10 am
There’s a clear case for having the 2 plaques alongside each other as there’s a clear distinction between the two
The 30 was in the top tier
Whatever number this eventually reaches it is in the 2nd tier
Both are remarkable achievements
Agreed, also the 30 unbeaten was a record for all clubs at the time?

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:54 am
by ClaretTony
turfytopper wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:44 am
Amazing isn't it? if i was to name Burnley's greatest ever midfield players I'd include Halley, Boyle and Watson even though I've only read of them.

Lets hope we can extend it to at least 35
When George Halley moved to Burnley, he and his family rented a room in a terraced house in Burnley which I learned was the house I was brought up in. I told my mum to get a blue plaque for the wall but she immediately dismissed that idea even though she'd was really good friends with the Halley family.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:10 am
by Down_Rover
We need to consider renaming the concourse bars. My nearest is the Billie Watson bar. Can we call it Steve’s bar?

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:38 am
by turfytopper
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:54 am
When George Halley moved to Burnley, he and his family rented a room in a terraced house in Burnley which I learned was the house I was brought up in. I told my mum to get a blue plaque for the wall but she immediately dismissed that idea even though she'd was really good friends with the Halley family.
brilliant Tony... btw our house sale appears to be back on the rails.....So we went house hunting on Tuesday...had an offer accepted. Fingers crossed that this time it goes through without hitch.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:08 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
Even more incredible the fact a good few of those lads had just fought in the First World War and come back with shrapnel injuries and PTSD.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:45 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Bit of research.
Halley, Boyle & Watson made their first appearance as our half back line on March 15th 1913 in a 3-1 home win over Bury. George Halleys debut.
Their final appearance together was Feb 11th 1922 a 1-2 home defeat to our neighbours. This was the 500th league game at Turf Moor. Tommy Boyle only played the next two matches before injury finished his career.
9 years, interrupted by WW1, in that time they were promoted in 1913, FA Cup winners in 1914, first division runners-up in 1920 and first division CHAMPIONS in 1921. How the war robbed us.
What shocked me, for a half back line, was their sizes. Boyle at 5’7” and Halley & Watson both at 5’8”. How the sporting world has shot up.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:05 pm
by ClaretTony
Tricky Trevor wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:45 pm
Bit of research.
Halley, Boyle & Watson made their first appearance as our half back line on March 15th 1913 in a 3-1 home win over Bury. George Halleys debut.
Their final appearance together was Feb 11th 1922 a 1-2 home defeat to our neighbours. This was the 500th league game at Turf Moor. Tommy Boyle only played the next two matches before injury finished his career.
9 years, interrupted by WW1, in that time they were promoted in 1913, FA Cup winners in 1914, first division runners-up in 1920 and first division CHAMPIONS in 1921. How the war robbed us.
What shocked me, for a half back line, was their sizes. Boyle at 5’7” and Halley & Watson both at 5’8”. How the sporting world has shot up.
I knew George Halley's son Andy really well and he was no taller

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:58 pm
by sjb
exilecanada wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:07 pm
My Grandad used to talk about 'Halley Boyle and Watson' in that order as well.

On a similar subject: The first away game I ever attended was an FA Cup tie to Stockport County in 1959, won 3-1. I can still remember Stockports goalie, two full backs and three half backs (in old money).... Lea, Betts, Webb, Porteous, Murray, Clemson. Can't remember the forward line though :( I'm 78 now, why the hell would I remember that after all these years? I can't remember what I had for bloody dinner last night :lol:
Hi exile, your memory is spot on regarding Stockport's numbers 1-6. If you're interested their forward line was Wilson, Jackson, Smith, Holden & Clarke. Jackson scored their goal.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:05 pm
by Vino blanco
I think they should now produce a new plaque (once the run is over) using exactly the same excellent wording as the first one, adapting it for the dates and personnel, and place it next to the existing one.

Re: Time for a new plaque?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:13 pm
by JohnDearyMe
mdd2 wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:12 am
Last 4 seasons in this Division so far
P182 W107 D60 L 15 Pts 381
Wow, averaging out at 95 points a season (with 2 games still to go in this one).