Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Not quite, I'd say. The two seasons where they spent the most I.e 1992/93 and 1993/94, did they win the League in either of those seasons? No.

The club that spent the most in the 1994/95 season was Everton, not Blackburn. Everton won the FA Cup that year in 1995. That is Everton's last trophy win to this present day. If we're going by that logic, Everton 'bought' that FA Cup trophy. Do you agree?

Liverpool spend £143m on Allisson and Van Dijk combined in 2017/18. Around the same time or a year earlier they spend:

£29m on Bobby Firmino
£34m on Sadio Mane.
£34m on Mohammed Salah

That's a total of £240m on those five signings. All played a major part in their first Premier League title win in the 2019/20 season. Did Liverpool 'buy' that title then? Surely if Blackburn did, then so did Liverpool?

If we look at Liverpool's second title win this weekend, with three of those listed playing an integral part. Did they spend buttons on the likes of Diaz, Mac Allister, Gravenberch, Gakpo and Co? No? So they have bought a second Premier League then. Yeah, it's Blackburn, we love to bash them, but let's have some balance, please.

Every club has to spend in order to win. That's the game, as sad a reality that is. If Blackburn have bought their trophies, then so has every other club to have won anything.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Every club has to spend in order to win. That's the game, as sad a reality that is. If Blackburn have bought their trophies, then so has every other club to have won anything.

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:58 pm

Were Leicester the biggest spenders when they won the league in 2016?

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:58 pm

Were Leicester the biggest spenders when they won the league in 2016?

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:05 pm

Has that ever that happened before or since? They were an anomaly. Imagine for a second FFP no longer exists and Pace wakes up tomorrow genuinely thinking 'I want to win the Premier League'.

How do you think he goes about achieving that aim? The same way as everybody else who has that ambition has, is my answer.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Not quite, I'd say. The two seasons where they spent the most I.e 1992/93 and 1993/94, did they win the League in either of those seasons? No.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:05 pm

Has that ever that happened before or since? They were an anomaly. Imagine for a second FFP no longer exists and Pace wakes up tomorrow genuinely thinking 'I want to win the Premier League'.

How do you think he goes about achieving that aim? The same way as everybody else who has that ambition has, is my answer.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Not quite, I'd say. The two seasons where they spent the most I.e 1992/93 and 1993/94, did they win the League in either of those seasons? No.

The club that spent the most in the 1994/95 season was Everton, not Blackburn. Everton won the FA Cup that year in 1995. That is Everton's last trophy win to this present day. If we're going by that logic, Everton 'bought' that FA Cup trophy. Do you agree?

Liverpool spend £143m on Allisson and Van Dijk combined in 2017/18. Around the same time or a year earlier they spend:

£29m on Bobby Firmino
£34m on Sadio Mane.
£34m on Mohammed Salah

That's a total of £240m on those five signings. All played a major part in their first Premier League title win in the 2019/20 season. Did Liverpool 'buy' that title then? Surely if Blackburn did, then so did Liverpool?

If we look at Liverpool's second title win this weekend, with three of those listed playing an integral part. Did they spend buttons on the likes of Diaz, Mac Allister, Gravenberch, Gakpo and Co? No? So they have bought a second Premier League then. Yeah, it's Blackburn, we love to bash them, but let's have some balance, please.

Every club has to spend in order to win. That's the game, as sad a reality that is. If Blackburn have bought their trophies, then so has every other club to have won anything.

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:10 pm

"But so has every other club to have won anything"

No more questions your honour!

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:26 pm

When you open a thread on UTC these days, it's either a thread from months ago being bumped for the I'm better than you routine, or it's got this Hutchy homunculus pretending he's got normal alleles.

Gone to the dogs.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:05 pm

Therefore, if Rovers bought it, then so did Man Utd, so did Arsenal, so did Chelsea, so did Man City and so did Liverpool.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:05 pm

The anomaly does not alter the point I was making.

What do you think the intention of the Leicester ownership was at the start of the 2015/16 season? They had just avoided relegation months before, don't forget.

No way did they go into August 2015 with the aim being to win the Premier League.

Any owner that goes into a season with the aim to win the title spends in order to achieve that aim. It's a fact.

Therefore, if Rovers bought it, then so did Man Utd, so did Arsenal, so did Chelsea, so did Man City and so did Liverpool.

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:11 pm

Anomaly or not, ""But so has every other club to have won anything"

wadeswondergoal wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:26 pm

What are you gaining from pretending to be a Claret, despite being a horse fiddling, Shadsworth dwelling B’stard?

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Liverpool spend £143m on Allisson and Van Dijk combined in 2017/18. Around the same time or a year earlier they spend:

£29m on Bobby Firmino
£34m on Sadio Mane.
£34m on Mohammed Salah

That's a total of £240m on those five signings. All played a major part in their first Premier League title win in the 2019/20 season. Did Liverpool 'buy' that title then? Surely if Blackburn did, then so did Liverpool?

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:15 pm

You are using pedantry to cling on to the view that Blackburn bought their title. Conveniently ignoring all the other examples that go against the Leicester argument.

Everton spent the most in 1994/95 and won the FA Cup. Did they 'buy' that FA Cup trophy?

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:36 pm

......

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:50 pm

We’ve just bought promotion, twice, so I’m not fussed any more, even though Shearer’s grinning face with that trophy still annoys me.

It just so happens it is with parachute payments not benefactors.

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Not quite, I'd say. The two seasons where they spent the most I.e 1992/93 and 1993/94, did they win the League in either of those seasons? No.

The club that spent the most in the 1994/95 season was Everton, not Blackburn. Everton won the FA Cup that year in 1995. That is Everton's last trophy win to this present day. If we're going by that logic, Everton 'bought' that FA Cup trophy. Do you agree?

Liverpool spend £143m on Allisson and Van Dijk combined in 2017/18. Around the same time or a year earlier they spend:

£29m on Bobby Firmino
£34m on Sadio Mane.
£34m on Mohammed Salah

That's a total of £240m on those five signings. All played a major part in their first Premier League title win in the 2019/20 season. Did Liverpool 'buy' that title then? Surely if Blackburn did, then so did Liverpool?

If we look at Liverpool's second title win this weekend, with three of those listed playing an integral part. Did they spend buttons on the likes of Diaz, Mac Allister, Gravenberch, Gakpo and Co? No? So they have bought a second Premier League then. Yeah, it's Blackburn, we love to bash them, but let's have some balance, please.

Every club has to spend in order to win. That's the game, as sad a reality that is. If Blackburn have bought their trophies, then so has every other club to have won anything.

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:28 am

Quite a dig you've had at Liverpool there, but just to sidetrack a little, can you point out where Blackburn in their entire history have had the nous to manage themselves without the help of some sugar daddy?
Even now with the Venky's comedy show, fans are pleading with the likes of the Issa brothers to pull them out of the stinky stuff.
Their entire history is littered with the need for a benefactor of sorts, right back to Victorian times when they paid professionals in an amateur game.

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:18 am

It cracks me up that Hutchy has liked this post. He probably thinks he has someone agreeing with him about us buying promotion. The biggest difference (well it's actually massive) being that we get parachute payments as a result of past achievements. Blackburn were handed the funds that allowed them to outbid the bigger clubs by one man. It wasn't self funded. Not in any way, shape or form.
Just remember they were a rotting hulk when Jack decided enough was enough and sacked Don Mackay as several years of play off failures were looking like turning into a relegation into the lower divisions with a ground struggling to meet Taylor report requirements of the time. The old Riverside stand was a wooden monstrosity of a death trap.
You cannot seriously tell me they then got into the play offs by "buying" Dalglish (how else would a club down the bottom of the second division attract him?) with their own money. No..Walker bought him. They scraped up via the play offs and then he opened the chequebook and blew away the wealthy clubs over the course of two seasons.

Of course it was all bought. You have to be utterly deluded to think otherwise..or a b*stard fan...they are one and the same after all.

AndrewJB wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:03 pm

I’m pretty sure we haven’t had parachute payments for over ten years because each time we’ve been relegated we’ve returned at the first time of asking.

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:18 am

It cracks me up that Hutchy has liked this post. He probably thinks he has someone agreeing with him about us buying promotion. The biggest difference (well it's actually massive) being that we get parachute payments as a result of past achievements. Blackburn were handed the funds that allowed them to outbid the bigger clubs by one man. It wasn't self funded. Not in any way, shape or form.
Just remember they were a rotting hulk when Jack decided enough was enough and sacked Don Mackay as several years of play off failures were looking like turning into a relegation into the lower divisions with a ground struggling to meet Taylor report requirements of the time. The old Riverside stand was a wooden monstrosity of a death trap.
You cannot seriously tell me they then got into the play offs by "buying" Dalglish (how else would a club down the bottom of the second division attract him?) with their own money. No..Walker bought him. They scraped up via the play offs and then he opened the chequebook and blew away the wealthy clubs over the course of two seasons.

Of course it was all bought. You have to be utterly deluded to think otherwise..or a b*stard fan...they are one and the same after all.

AndrewJB wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:03 pm

I’m pretty sure we haven’t had parachute payments for over ten years because each time we’ve been relegated we’ve returned at the first time of asking.

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:53 pm

Very true. I think the point is though that any money we have had has come from our own efforts. Prizemoney and tv money and we've invested it well to keep it incoming. That time may end at some point if mismanaged. We initially got there on our own efforts.
They were languishing near the foot of what was the Championship and Walker pumped money in and turned it around over the course of a few seasons. There wasn't a chance in hell they'd have achieved what they did without it.
Gone from the average Lancashire club to blowing Man Utd etc out of the water with wages and attracting players...but no..it wasn't bought they cry

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:18 am

It cracks me up that Hutchy has liked this post. He probably thinks he has someone agreeing with him about us buying promotion. The biggest difference (well it's actually massive) being that we get parachute payments as a result of past achievements. Blackburn were handed the funds that allowed them to outbid the bigger clubs by one man. It wasn't self funded. Not in any way, shape or form.
Just remember they were a rotting hulk when Jack decided enough was enough and sacked Don Mackay as several years of play off failures were looking like turning into a relegation into the lower divisions with a ground struggling to meet Taylor report requirements of the time. The old Riverside stand was a wooden monstrosity of a death trap.
You cannot seriously tell me they then got into the play offs by "buying" Dalglish (how else would a club down the bottom of the second division attract him?) with their own money. No..Walker bought him. They scraped up via the play offs and then he opened the chequebook and blew away the wealthy clubs over the course of two seasons.

Of course it was all bought. You have to be utterly deluded to think otherwise..or a b*stard fan...they are one and the same after all.

getbennyon wrote: ↑

Thu May 01, 2025 7:41 am

This is factually inaccurate.

Burnley bought promotion in 2009 and were placed under a transfer embargo for spending more on players than we could afford. Every season since that season we have benefitted from Premier League money/parachute payments.

This whole thread is weird, i'd much rather celebrate winning/buying the Premier League than have a promotion parade for finishing second a season after being relegated.

getbennyon wrote: ↑

Thu May 01, 2025 7:41 am

This is factually inaccurate.

Burnley bought promotion in 2009 and were placed under a transfer embargo for spending more on players than we could afford. Every season since that season we have benefitted from Premier League money/parachute payments.

This whole thread is weird, i'd much rather celebrate winning/buying the Premier League than have a promotion parade for finishing second a season after being relegated.

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:58 pm

Were Leicester the biggest spenders when they won the league in 2016?

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Thu May 01, 2025 11:08 pm

No they were the biggest beneficiaries of fake penalties, awarded to ensure their success and demonstrate that 'anyone can win the Prem'.

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑

Fri May 02, 2025 8:02 am

That wasn't the question though

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Fri May 02, 2025 9:16 am

No it was the answer!

Hutchy wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:50 pm

Not quite, I'd say. The two seasons where they spent the most I.e 1992/93 and 1993/94, did they win the League in either of those seasons? No.

The club that spent the most in the 1994/95 season was Everton, not Blackburn. Everton won the FA Cup that year in 1995. That is Everton's last trophy win to this present day. If we're going by that logic, Everton 'bought' that FA Cup trophy. Do you agree?


Every club has to spend in order to win. That's the game, as sad a reality that is. If Blackburn have bought their trophies, then so has every other club to have won anything.