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I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:31 am
by Tricky Trevor
Ever since the 1978 World Cup and the match below. It does not say that the Peru goalkeeper was born in Argentina.
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Anyway I prefer head to head results.
Leeds Utd 0 Burnley 1
Burnley 0 Leeds Utd 0
It’s only fair.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:42 am
by dsr
Or goal average.
Or two points for a win.

Any of those would do. ;)

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:50 am
by Burnley1989
100% the correct way is GD

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:57 am
by Ptangyangkipperbang
It's not over yet !

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:07 pm
by robinoz
Serie A have a one off match if the top 2 are level on points.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:19 pm
by Dazzler
robinoz wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:07 pm
Serie A have a one off match if the top 2 are level on points.
Head-to head results first decider.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:13 pm
by BurnleyFC
It’s probably going to be the decider this year, but I believe goal difference is the correct way.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:15 pm
by Croydon Claret
We were all for it when we it looked like it would give us an advantage over Sheffield United

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:17 pm
by Boss Hogg
GD is fair even though we will probably lose out this time around . Normally this points total would be plenty but 2 very good teams this year.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:21 pm
by robinoz
Dazzler wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:19 pm
Head-to head results first decider.
Not according to all the media outlets. They all report that rules were changed in 2022. Level on points, straight playoff with GD deciding home advantage. Head to head to be used to decide placings from third downwards.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:45 pm
by Dazzler
robinoz wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:21 pm
Not according to all the media outlets. They all report that rules were changed in 2022. Level on points, straight playoff with GD deciding home advantage. Head to head to be used to decide placings from third downwards.
The other week, I vaguely read on BBC Sport the possibility of a play-off for the Serie A title & on noticing the head-to-head results, I just assumed they were still a potential decider.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:48 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
I would prefer the team that wins the most games over GD (which would be Leeds anyway).

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:12 pm
by Vegas Claret
table never lies, the Burnley and Leeds lads have done the main job and whoever finishes top deserves it.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:20 pm
by Goobs
It pains me to say it but fair play to Leeds. They have been unstoppable at times this year some would say they are relentless.

If you finish on 100 points and don’t win the title then whoever has finished above you deserves it.

At this stage I am just glad we’ll finish more than 1 point above Sheffield so they can’t bleat on about their 2 points deduction

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:27 pm
by Dazzler
Goobs wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:20 pm
At this stage I am just glad we’ll finish more than 1 point above Sheffield so they can’t bleat on about their 2 points deduction
It was only 2 points, but they could claim it still put them at a psychological disadvantage.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:28 pm
by martin_p
I think GD is fair. It also allows you to (potentially) catch up which the head-to-head record wouldn’t. Imagine we were just a goal or two behind Leeds on GD and could potentially be champions with a 3-0 win!

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:39 pm
by Goobs
Dazzler wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:27 pm
It was only 2 points, but they could claim it still put them at a psychological disadvantage.
IMO that would be quite a weak argument especially considering they were above us with only about 7 games to go.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:41 pm
by bfcmik
Goal average would see us well clear!

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:23 pm
by equinox
It wouldn't be beyond this team, considering everything else they've done this season, to go and beat Millwall 25-0 or whatever it is we need.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:56 pm
by dougcollins
equinox wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:23 pm
It wouldn't be beyond this team, considering everything else they've done this season, to go and beat Millwall 25-0 or whatever it is we need.
I think it's only 12.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:02 pm
by equinox
dougcollins wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:56 pm
I think it's only 12.
So we're 13-0 before we even start!

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:38 pm
by FCBurnley
How about least losses wins ?

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:11 pm
by boatshed bill
FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:38 pm
How about least losses wins ?
Or most wins perhaps?

I preferred Goal Average, but I think the change to goal difference was made to encourage attacking football.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:20 pm
by Tricky Trevor
The problem I’ve had with it is as pointed out in my OP. GD is fixable. A wealthy club only has to tap a referee or a couple of oppo players and there can be a big swing.
In a head to head situation you are cheating yourselves and as when we won at Bellend Rd in September nobody knows what the table in April will look like.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:57 pm
by tarkys_ears
Not quite "goal difference" but this is an absolute gem - Im sure a few of you are familiar with it

Barbados 4-2 Grenada 1994

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZlqfhLwBnE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbados_ ... 32_Grenada

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 5:40 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:31 am
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What do you think of injury time? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 5:43 pm
by Clowbridge89
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 5:40 pm
What do you think of injury time? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Always handy when the 4th official lets you know how long is being added, or not…

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 5:44 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 5:40 pm
What do you think of injury time? :lol: :lol: :lol:
No complaints. There should be far more with all the time wasting that goes on. I’m a stop clock sort of guy and take it from the referee, he has enough to do.
Congratson your favourite team winning something.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 5:49 pm
by jojomk1
The goal difference was 12
Had we scored just 1 more goal in one of our 16 draws we would have been Champions

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 5:59 pm
by JrC
jojomk1 wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 5:49 pm
The goal difference was 12
Had we scored just 1 more goal in one of our 16 draws we would have been Champions
We did. West Brom away.
(And then the referring decisions, or lack their of, for their free kick at home was just twisting the knife)

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 5:29 am
by Firthy
Not as much as Sheff Utd will hate the play offs. Having to play teams with 15 to 22 points less to gain promotion is ridiculous IMO

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 6:12 am
by Tribesmen
Firthy wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 5:29 am
Not as much as Sheff Utd will hate the play offs. Having to play teams with 15 to 22 points less to gain promotion is ridiculous IMO
Everyone knows the rules another start of the season

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 6:43 am
by Firthy
Tribesmen wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 6:12 am
Everyone knows the rules another start of the season
Still doesn't make it right.

Re: I hate GD

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 6:48 pm
by Rileybobs
Firthy wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 6:43 am
Still doesn't make it right.
I don’t get this argument. Let’s scrap the play offs and just 2 teams win promotion then. The play offs are one of the best things about the EFL for a number of reasons.