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Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:05 am
by Row x
Awarded

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:08 am
by Quickenthetempo
Great news.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:20 am
by Bosscat
Just saw that on Twittler πŸ‘

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:25 am
by aggi
Article here
https://trainingground.guru/burnley-aca ... ne-status/

Not sure why it is a provisional 12 months, maybe that is the same for all new ones.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:34 am
by Papabendi
absolutely brilliant - and another poke in the eye to all the naysayers who want to be down on just about everything the club decides to do.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:51 am
by CrosspoolClarets
Great news, well done to those involved, should be very handy.

Intriguing how despite a few in the EFL most are either a EPL club or a yo yo club, probably due to the cost. Us and Leeds are coming back as Cat 1 and Sheff Utd are hoping to join us in both regards soon (though their new site in Dore on the old HSBC premises where the Academy will relocate to is currently not a patch on Gawthorpe).

It just feels vital if we are to remain at the top table in English football.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:52 am
by ClaretTony
Brilliant news - just this minute seen it

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:02 am
by Quickenthetempo
aggi wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 10:25 am
Article here
https://trainingground.guru/burnley-aca ... ne-status/

Not sure why it is a provisional 12 months, maybe that is the same for all new ones.
I thought they might have an article on Birmingham getting cat 1 a few days before to compare, but I can't see one.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:06 am
by Quickenthetempo
Let's hope we can improve on the rating of 54th out of 86 for productivity.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:25 am
by ClaretTony
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 11:06 am
Let's hope we can improve on the rating of 54th out of 86 for productivity.
We are in the elite group next season so that will vastly improve - I'm so, so pleased with this news.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:32 am
by aggi
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 11:06 am
Let's hope we can improve on the rating of 54th out of 86 for productivity.
I suspect we will. We might not produce many Burnley first team players if we continue around Premier League/top end of Championship but it looks like we're starting to get better at carrying players through who have successful careers at other clubs.

Saying that, not sure where the cut-off for players is, whether players like McNeil or Bobby Thomas don't count as they were too old when they joined us.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:33 am
by ArmchairDetective
ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 11:25 am
We are in the elite group next season so that will vastly improve - I'm so, so pleased with this news.
This sounds like great news. What does being in the elite group mean for us?

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:43 am
by FCBurnley
Can only be excellent news for the club and the town as a whole. Well done to all who have contributed to this promotion

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:52 am
by ClaretTony
ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 11:33 am
This sounds like great news. What does being in the elite group mean for us?
A lot of things beyond me to be honest in terms of retaining, signing, keeping young players and the monetary value of them.

But in terms of the public side of it, we will now play in PL 2 (under-21s) and the U18 Premier League which included 26 clubs this season as below. Also the teams younger than that will have a better games programme too.

Arsenal
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Brighton
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Derby
Everton
Fulham
Leeds
Leicester
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
Middlesbrough
Newcastle
Norwich
Nottingham Forest
Reading
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
Tottenham
West Brom
West Ham
Wolves

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:53 am
by burnley007
It really is a good time to be a Claret!
:-)

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:56 am
by ecc

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 12:06 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Been waiting for the expected arrival, but it's still great news for the club.
I hope we've learned the lessons from the mistakes last time. You take your eye off the ball in this and it is gone.

Well done to those who turned it around.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 12:23 pm
by The Shire Claret
Fantastic

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 1:12 pm
by Rowls
Very good news.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 1:59 pm
by gandhisflipflop
So all that whinging about the owners was all for nothing then? Shocker.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:00 pm
by ClaretTony
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 1:59 pm
So all that whinging about the owners was all for nothing then? Shocker.
What a strange post on this thread

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:04 pm
by NewClaret
EXCELLENT news to log on to. When the Birmingham news broke I was a bit concerned.

Fantastic achievement, although when you look at that list Tony has posted it does underline that we’re playing catch-up a bit. Hopefully the last three years has been spent building very solid foundations.

Well done to the club and staff that have made this happen. Great end to the season.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:11 pm
by gandhisflipflop
ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 2:00 pm
What a strange post on this thread
Not really. It was used as another stick to beat the ownership with at the time.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:12 pm
by ClaretTony
NewClaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 2:04 pm
When the Birmingham news broke I was a bit concerned.

It was strange because I couldn't find any other reference to it other than directly from Birmingham. That's been similar with us though, I thought the Premier League might have announced it.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:20 pm
by Papabendi
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 2:11 pm
Not really. It was used as another stick to beat the ownership with at the time.
I think if we are fair about this we have to give credit where credit is due. Losing Cat 1 was definitely another device to have a pop at the Ownership structure. We don't have to agree with everything they get up to, but it's worth remembering that whatever ultimate aspirations they have for the club, they will only be realised if we are successful

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:31 pm
by NewClaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 2:12 pm
It was strange because I couldn't find any other reference to it other than directly from Birmingham. That's been similar with us though, I thought the Premier League might have announced it.
Exactly my thoughts Tony.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:31 pm
by Goliath
Papabendi wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 2:20 pm
I think if we are fair about this we have to give credit where credit is due. Losing Cat 1 was definitely another device to have a pop at the Ownership structure. We don't have to agree with everything they get up to, but it's worth remembering that whatever ultimate aspirations they have for the club, they will only be realised if we are successful
They were rightly criticised. And it's taken too long to get the cat 1 back. But at least we've got there and that deserves credit as well.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:33 pm
by fatboy47
Grand.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 3:17 pm
by Papabendi
Goliath wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 2:31 pm
They were rightly criticised. And it's taken too long to get the cat 1 back. But at least we've got there and that deserves credit as well.
Why has it taken too long? Was always going to be a process

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 3:33 pm
by mkmel
Absolutely brilliant

Well done to all those involved in achieving this

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 3:41 pm
by Goliath
Papabendi wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 3:17 pm
Why has it taken too long? Was always going to be a process
They should never have lost it.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:00 pm
by burnley007
Not great stats.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 5:00 pm
by boyyanno
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Fri May 09, 2025 2:11 pm
Not really. It was used as another stick to beat the ownership with at the time.
Because it was fair, poor management lost us the Cat 1 status in the first place.

I'm happy they've put it right but surely you're not suggesting that as fans we can't criticise the running of the club when somthing goes wrong? Truly bizarre.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 2:54 pm
by dibraidio
At the bottom of the Training Ground Guru article it says we're 54th from 97 in a ranking of academies. Does anyone know what that's based on?

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 3:04 pm
by Ε½iΕΎkovClaret
dibraidio wrote: ↑
Tue May 20, 2025 2:54 pm
At the bottom of the Training Ground Guru article it says we're 54th from 97 in a ranking of academies. Does anyone know what that's based on?
You'd suspect end product aka number of academy products in the 1st team squad.......?

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 3:12 pm
by aggi
dibraidio wrote: ↑
Tue May 20, 2025 2:54 pm
At the bottom of the Training Ground Guru article it says we're 54th from 97 in a ranking of academies. Does anyone know what that's based on?
I think it's their productivity rankings.

Basically how many first team minutes players from the academy have had (not necessarily for the team where they came through). Higher weighting for playing at a higher level.

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 3:19 pm
by bobinho
So we have regained the academy status then, is that right?

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 3:45 pm
by ClaretTony
bobinho wrote: ↑
Tue May 20, 2025 3:19 pm
So we have regained the academy status then, is that right?
Yes, announced on 9th May.

https://www.uptheclarets.com/clarets-aw ... ne-academy

Re: Cat 1 academy

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 3:54 pm
by bobinho
Where have I been???

Happy with this.