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Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 4:56 pm
by claretblue
Whatever he’s referred as…I’ll now call him Wooderful
- a remarkable generous gesture!
I’ve criticised him for admitting being in his comfort zone at the end of being Claret but this is so impressive! 8-)

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Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 5:33 pm
by distortiondave
According to the same website, so too has Cunha at Wolves, Mitoma at Brighton, Watkins at Villa, and Oliver Glasner has resigned from Crystal Palace due to intense criticism, despite just winning the FA Cup.

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It's a really weird thing to make up, but it *looks* like ******** to me.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 5:36 pm
by Rowls
Hmmmm, yeah.

We're all going to have to get more used to this.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 5:38 pm
by ClaretTony
claretblue wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 4:56 pm

I’ve criticised him for admitting being in his comfort zone at the end of being Claret but this is so impressive!
Something he said on the official Newcastle site. I wouldn’t be too concerned about that.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 5:44 pm
by Holtyclaret
Super bloke who used to put money behind the bar for the nz clarets get-togethers while he was with us.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 5:44 pm
by exilecanada
There's certainly something fishy about this, until I see confirmation from a reliable source I'm calling the report bull**it :shock:

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:04 pm
by pureclaret
Whilst Chris Wood does give to charity but i feel this is just not true, as The palace story not true

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:13 pm
by ClaretTony
Holtyclaret wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 5:44 pm
Super bloke who used to put money behind the bar for the nz clarets get-togethers while he was with us.
Brilliant how he supported NZ Clarets who also had his mum & dad at meet ups.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:18 pm
by dougcollins
'Nottingham Forest manager Steve Cooper'?

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:59 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
Some very weird people out there making stuff up like this.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 7:28 pm
by bobinho
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 5:38 pm
Something he said on the official Newcastle site. I wouldn’t be too concerned about that.
Except it wasnt just something we could read on the Newcastle site…. We could see it week in, week out whilst he was drawing a wage from us.

For me, the point stands.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 8:01 pm
by ClaretTony
bobinho wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 7:28 pm
Except it wasnt just something we could read on the Newcastle site…. We could see it week in, week out whilst he was drawing a wage from us.

For me, the point stands.
As said, something for their benefit and don’t reflect the way he’s played. Will always think it was ridiculous to sell him and bring in Weghorst.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 8:12 pm
by beddie
What a great guy. Interestingly although it makes no real difference the article is dated May 2025 but refers to comments made by the Forest Manager Steve Cooper.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 8:31 pm
by exilecanada
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 8:01 pm
As said, something for their benefit and don’t reflect the way he’s played. Will always think it was ridiculous to sell him and bring in Weghorst.
If memory serves we didn't have a choice, didn't Newcastle trigger a release clause?

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 8:34 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
exilecanada wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 8:31 pm
If memory serves we didn't have a choice, didn't Newcastle trigger a release clause?
They did yes.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:10 pm
by BurnleyFC
We had no choice but to sell Wood, but we were going down that season regardless.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:14 pm
by ClaretTony
exilecanada wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 8:31 pm
If memory serves we didn't have a choice, didn't Newcastle trigger a release clause?
So we were led to believe but didn’t it transpire that the clause could only be triggered in a summer window?

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:15 pm
by claretblue
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 5:38 pm
Something he said on the official Newcastle site. I wouldn’t be too concerned about that.
it’s okay…if he’s donated to charity the amount reported then I’ve forgiven him! :D

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:25 pm
by Tall Paul
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:14 pm
So we were led to believe but didn’t it transpire that the clause could only be triggered in a summer window?
No

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:26 pm
by ClaretTony
Tall Paul wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:25 pm
No
From where I got the information id say very much yes but Newcastle came in with a huge offer.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:28 pm
by Tall Paul
The club must've been lying when they put the statement out on the transfer then.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:33 pm
by ClaretTony
Tall Paul wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:28 pm
The club must've been lying when they put the statement out on the transfer then.
I don’t think we referred to it at the time

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:34 pm
by aggi
When Dyche was doing his rounds of podcasts and youtubes and so on after being sacked he also said they'd triggered a release clause.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:35 pm
by Tall Paul
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:33 pm
I don’t think we referred to it at the time
https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... -newcastle

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:39 pm
by ClaretTony
Fine with that but I know what I was told and who told me. It wasn’t anyone at our club.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:43 pm
by Tall Paul
So are you saying you think the club was lying?

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:52 pm
by exilecanada
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:26 pm
From where I got the information id say very much yes but Newcastle came in with a huge offer.
Mere mortals such as myself don't have inside information but from what I understood Newcastle triggered a clause of let's say 20 mill. Newcastle sweetened the pot with an extra 5 mill to bring the transfer forward to the winter window. :shock:

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 9:57 am
by Papabendi
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:39 pm
Fine with that but I know what I was told and who told me. It wasn’t anyone at our club.
You know, whoever told you what they told you - might just be wrong.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 10:14 am
by ClaretTony
Papabendi wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 9:57 am
You know, whoever told you what they told you - might just be wrong.
And do you know - I know they weren't.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 10:26 am
by Tall Paul
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 10:14 am
And do you know - I know they weren't.
So are you saying you think the club was lying?

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 11:35 am
by Papabendi
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 10:14 am
And do you know - I know they weren't.
Unless you’ve seen what is in the contract with your own eyes I would suggest you can’t be sure 100%. Sorry.,

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 11:41 am
by ClaretPete001
I've had to spend ages on here defending Chris Wood even though he has a better than 1 in 3 goal scoring return. Does not surprise me at all he has done well at Forest.

I think he did very well for Newcastle but didn't score the goals to reflect his contribution.

With the regard to the 'comfort zone' comment I think he was probably just reflecting on what happened in his last season and being self critical. I don't think it means he couldn't be bothered. But some folk seem to have to deliberately misinterpret people's words.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 12:23 pm
by Papabendi
Tall Paul wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 10:26 am
So are you saying you think the club was lying?
The inference has to be yes. This would be a problematic position for Burnley FC, given Newcastle and third parties such as agents also had access to the detail, not to mention the player. It was quite an emotive transfer at the time, so a risky move from the club if not accurate.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 12:37 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Tall Paul wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 10:26 am
So are you saying you think the club was lying?
I have no thoughts either way on the Chris Wood deal but I reckon the club (or someone representing them) lie on an almost daily basis.

So it would be no shock.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 12:38 pm
by Papabendi
any examples?

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 12:40 pm
by ClaretPete001
Papabendi wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 12:23 pm
The inference has to be yes. This would be a problematic position for Burnley FC, given Newcastle and third parties such as agents also had access to the detail, not to mention the player. It was quite an emotive transfer at the time, so a risky move from the club if not accurate.
The consensus in the media is that Newcastle triggered a clause but it would have suited everyone to claim that there was a release clause. Burnley who didn't have to admit they just sold a player. Newcastle for paying such a high fee and the player for whom the story somewhat over shadowed the fact he was jumping ship.

And not entirely untrue if there was a summer clause and Burnley allowed Newcastle to trigger it early.

I'm not convinced but given some of our Chairman's declarations on issues like Chines investment or Tresor it wouldn't surprise me either.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 12:47 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Papabendi wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 12:38 pm
any examples?
Just read any ticket or Season ticket thread on here.

Thinking about the Wood deal. Newcastle paid in two installments which is very rare for forcing a club to sell.
We needed the money as we took a loan out on the 2nd installment that cost us 1.1m or so.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 1:12 pm
by Papabendi
I think it is very straightforward. If there was no release clause at the time Newcastle approached Burnley, there was no option to trigger at a certain price.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 4:04 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
It is straightforward. We had no option but to accept.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 4:22 pm
by Rowls
PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 6:59 pm
Some very weird people out there making stuff up like this.
It's less likely some loser making stuff up for their own gratification than this scenario

1. Get an AI bot to automate some click bait stories
2. Fill site with advertisments
3. Get money for little or no maintenance or work

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 5:21 pm
by dougcollins
ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 11:41 am

With the regard to the 'comfort zone' comment I think he was probably just reflecting on what happened in his last season and being self critical. I don't think it means he couldn't be bothered. But some folk seem to have to deliberately misinterpret people's words.
He was doing a great impression of someone who couldn't be bothered.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 6:06 pm
by ClaretPete001
dougcollins wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 5:21 pm
He was doing a great impression of someone who couldn't be bothered.
Well I suppose you could take the generous approach and say he scored better than 1 in 3 for us but eventually the malaise of the takeover. the age of the squad and the number in it whose contract were due to end without any real chance of renewal took it's toll on all the players.

Or you can, say he wasn't trying.

Re: Wood or Woods…

Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 6:39 pm
by GetIntoEm
Remember the stick Chris Wood used to get on here. Clueless baffoons. BuT hEs AlWayZ oFfSide