Sky have had to withdraw Gary Neville from commentary duties this Sunday at Nottingham Forest after Forest refused him access following his comments about Marinakis going onto the pitch at the end of their game at Leicester.

That's pathetic.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:20 pm

That's pathetic.

It’s the sort of behaviour we’ve come to expect from Forest since they got back in the Premier League.

It really is pathetic.

Sky should withhold Forests access to TV payments as they will have a contract with Forest to broadcast as per the deal signed by the PL that I doubt has a clause allowing clubs to ban members of Sky.

For Forest read Marinakis!

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:25 pm

Sky should withhold Forests access to TV payments as they will have a contract with Forest to broadcast as per the deal signed by the PL that I doubt has a clause allowing clubs to ban members of Sky.

Sky, like TNT, have a contract with the Premier League. Forest do have the right to do this.

JohnMac wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:26 pm

For Forest read Marinakis!

Yep, that's the issue.

This sort of thing only elevates Neville's punditry.

Sounds like Forest's answer to Bob Lord.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:28 pm

Sky, like TNT, have a contract with the Premier League. Forest do have the right to do this.

I asked DeepSeek, the Chinese AI bot, this question. Very concerning that this becomes the best source but that is another story…..

It gave me a detailed answer for why Forest are indeed within their rights to do this. You are indeed right.

I also asked DeepSeek if a home club could ban certain away team officials. It confirmed it could.

No reason for me asking this of course, purely coincidental

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:28 pm

Sky, like TNT, have a contract with the Premier League. Forest do have the right to do this.

surely Forest have to abide by the contract signed by the Premier League as it's their league ? Mind you, it's hasn't stopped Man City !

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:20 pm

That's pathetic.

I disagree. You have to let the dust settle when a disputes occured. Neville crossed that line whether rightly or wrongly & the ownership (marinakis) don't want to welcome him. Large parts of English football is now controlled by foreign ownership who have their own customs & ways of doing things & if we don't want to accept that we shouldn't have allowed that to happen in the first place.

It is poor from Forest. Gary Neville is a media pundit and is paid for his opinions. I don't think he crossed any lines and as a journalist/pundit should be allowed to have his opinion.

Curious what Forest fans think. Probably turn a blind eye or try and justify it, because they’re being successful. We’d be the same.

The stuff about referees last season, and that circus with Clattenburg was just as bad if not worse. The pantomime on the pitch a couple of weeks ago. Embarrassing for a ‘proper’ club like them but they’re winning so he’ll have their support.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:55 pm

Sounds like Forest's answer to Bob Lord.

Beat me to it. Manny Cousins etc.

JohnMac wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:26 pm

For Forest read Marinakis!

Gary Neville has been denied permission to enter Marinakis??

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 12:47 am

I disagree. You have to let the dust settle when a disputes occured. Neville crossed that line whether rightly or wrongly & the ownership (marinakis) don't want to welcome him. Large parts of English football is now controlled by foreign ownership who have their own customs & ways of doing things & if we don't want to accept that we shouldn't have allowed that to happen in the first place.

Not like you to disagree

So if a Forest supporter criticised Marinarkis would he ban them as well. I would have thought that if Sky threatened to pull the plug on Forest for future games (if they can do that under the contract) they Forest might have a change in thinking.

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 6:50 am

Not like you to disagree

Have I got a point that's the question. It's healthy to disagree providing the opposing point holds some merit.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 8:33 am

Have I got a point that's the question. It's healthy to disagree providing the opposing point holds some merit.

Therein lies the problem

taio wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 8:40 am

Therein lies the problem

Specifically what don't you disagree with? It was always going to happen when you have foreign ownership they have their own ways of doing things & the greek gentleman is unorthodox to say the least.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 8:44 am

Specifically what don't you disagree with? It was always going to happen when you have foreign ownership they have their own ways of doing things & the greek gentleman is unorthodox to say the least.

Are you suggesting that all Greeks would behave like Marinakis, and that we should accept their behaviour?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 10:09 am

Are you suggesting that all Greeks would behave like Marinakis, and that we should accept their behaviour?

Of course not everybody's different whatever nationality. It's hardly surprising though what's happened he's always been a ticking time bomb.

Easy this….

Sky withdraw the game from TV unless Neville is reinstated. Marinakis refuses and sues Sky. Sky pay it… Sky then change the terms of the agreement like they do with my Sky TV contract. No one can ever do this again.

If it isnt that easy, it bloody well should be.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 8:44 am

Specifically what don't you disagree with? It was always going to happen when you have foreign ownership they have their own ways of doing things & the greek gentleman is unorthodox to say the least.

Are you sure? I’m sure I read he’s Greek Orthodox…

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 10:56 am

Are you sure? I’m sure I read he’s Greek Orthodox…

I merely meant in terms of his behaviour I think he's unpredictable.

beddie wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 7:51 am

So if a Forest supporter criticised Marinarkis would he ban them as well.

There are, sadly, plenty of examples of owners banning fans for expressing opinions they disagreed with.

maccclaret wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 11:21 am

There are, sadly, plenty of examples of owners banning fans for expressing opinions they disagreed with.

A few on here would be panicking if ours did that

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 10:36 am

Of course not everybody's different whatever nationality. It's hardly surprising though what's happened he's always been a ticking time bomb.

So it's not about his nationality then, he's just a prick

I think you are right to explore other opinions Jakub but if Gary Neville did not breach Sky's journalistic standards then as a pundit he should be allowed to have an opinion. Broadcasting revenue is central to PL funding and punditry is central to delivering broadcast revenue.

I think it is reasonable to consider that other countries may operate to different standards regarding journalism but I don't think Greece is one of those countries.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 10:56 am

Are you sure? I’m sure I read he’s Greek Orthodox…

At least I got the joke !!!

As for this Forest owner I have no idea how anybody can justify his behaviour.
To use the fact he is foreign as an excuse is ridiculous….even by that posters bonkers standards.

What he did to his manager berating him on the pitch because he had just in his mind cost the club around £100m from potentially losing out on champions league against a team in Leicester who were being spanked by every team at the time was very clearly all about the owner and his greed. Where he comes from has got zero to do with it.

The club statement he put together trying to defuse the issue was equally as pathetic. How could he have had any idea how bad the injury was for “one of his family” when neither the player, the medical staff or anyone else on the pitch had a clue. The player decided he wanted to play on ffs. To say he ran on the pitch shouting at his manager was because he was concerned about the player was laughable.

Banning Gary Neville for saying what everybody else could clearly see is equally as pathetic. They may be within their rights but Sky should look at that contract and try and defend their staff in the future. You are obligated to do interviews pre and post match as part of the contract - they should also be able to send who they want to commentate and sky should the only people who have the power to withdraw someone on their teams if they believe they have over stepped the mark. If every club were to ban commentators and pundits for every time they were criticising their club Roy Keane better find a new paper round !

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:13 pm

Sky have had to withdraw Gary Neville from commentary duties this Sunday at Nottingham Forest after Forest refused him access following his comments about Marinakis going onto the pitch at the end of their game at Leicester.

Sky should boycott NF and not go there again until GN is allowed back on. The Chairman is a butter, who should be sanctioned by the Prem League and banned from entering the pitch.

The Premier League really ought to wipe the flora with him.

I believe he is a bit of an Anchor....

Both as bad as each other

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 11:47 am

So it's not about his nationality then, he's just a prick

I don't personally know the man but going off what I've read & heard it's fair to say some might conclude that.
Regarding GN he's not everybody's cup of tea himself so in some peoples eyes EM could be doing them a favour. At the end of the day he owns the club & it's up to him. If I started bad mouthing somebody criticising somebody I'd expect a frosty reception in this particular case it's gone 1 step further & he's barred.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri May 23, 2025 9:13 pm

Sky have had to withdraw Gary Neville from commentary duties this Sunday at Nottingham Forest after Forest refused him access following his comments about Marinakis going onto the pitch at the end of their game at Leicester.

I appreciate all the comments about the financial ins and outs of our ownership but at least our Chairman acts with a certain degree of class.

ecc wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 1:11 pm

I appreciate all the comments about the financial ins and outs of our ownership but at least our Chairman acts with a certain degree of class.

Even when he's making comments about sacking managers because of Chinese investors or about players who should be playing but aren't etc.

ecc wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 1:11 pm

I appreciate all the comments about the financial ins and outs of our ownership but at least our Chairman acts with a certain degree of class.

If you think so

Sky should just not do any analysis, pre match discussion, interviews before or after the match with Forest staff , repeat any of the Forest home games, don’t invite any Forest fan or official onto any sport programme etc and when fans complain about lack of coverage they can tell them why.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 2:15 pm

If you think so

I know you don't but I'm allowed to have my opinion, aren't I?

ecc wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 2:38 pm

I know you don't but I'm allowed to have my opinion, aren't I?

I just know he's done similar to Marinakis

He's as bad as Marinakis? Fair enough.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 2:42 pm

I just know he's done similar to Marinakis

Which pundit?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 2:15 pm

If you think so

Well we all know you don’t.

What we don’t know, is why?

Has he hoodwinked us all but you?

ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 1:39 am

It is poor from Forest. Gary Neville is a media pundit and is paid for his opinions. I don't think he crossed any lines and as a journalist/pundit should be allowed to have his opinion.

I mean he posted fake news and said Nuno should resign immediately by pushing the narrative Marinakis went on the pitch to confront Nuno because of the draw to Leicester.

Big Vinny K wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 12:27 pm

What he did to his manager berating him on the pitch because he had just in his mind cost the club around £100m from potentially losing out on champions league against a team in Leicester who were being spanked by every team at the time was very clearly all about the owner and his greed.

Well that’s the fake news narrative Neville pushed and the reason he’s been banned. It’s not about having an opinion, fake news is the problem.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 4:09 pm

Well that’s the fake news narrative Neville pushed and the reason he’s been banned. It’s not about having an opinion, fake news is the problem.

Owners shouldn’t be going on the pitch …

Neville and the rest of them are there to give their opinions and the guys in the wrong for looking so confrontational on the pitch in front of the crowd and millions watching at home

There is no Fake News and banning anyone is ridiculous

The Shire Claret wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 4:27 pm

Owners shouldn’t be going on the pitch …

Neville and the rest of them are there to give their opinions and the guys in the wrong for looking so confrontational on the pitch in front of the crowd and millions watching at home

There is no Fake News and banning anyone is ridiculous

If Marinakis went onto the pitch to shout at the referee and Nuno stepped in to stop him, that’s different to Neville saying Nuno should resign immediately for Marinakis going onto the pitch to have a row with Nuno because of the result.

That’s not simply having an opinion, that’s spreading fake news and a false narrative. I agree about owners shouldn't be on the pitch regardless.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 5:18 pm

If Marinakis went onto the pitch to shout at the referee and Nuno stepped in to stop him, that’s different to Neville saying Nuno should resign immediately for Marinakis going onto the pitch to have a row with Nuno because of the result.

That’s not simply having an opinion, that’s spreading fake news and a false narrative. I agree about owners shouldn't be on the pitch regardless.

Fake News is such a lazy narrative though …. Football is worth billions becuase of the drama and pundits are paid to speculate and give opinions and if the owner decides to put his hands in the fire he should deal with the consequences of getting burned like everyone else

If I go on a dance floor and start taking to a woman about finance and does she know the way to the bog my mrs is still gonna think I’m chatting her up ….