If you win the lower league play offs you end up losing money .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDtrYQxYHqY

I saw the Championship play offs is now worth minimum £220m to the winner. What do we get for 2nd? Has the TV money really gone up that much?

We get the same.
The 'value' to the winner of the Play Off Final is based on projected Premier League payments and TV revenues.

Sunderland will most probably have lost money today but they have the bonus of the Premier League money to come.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 4:20 pm

I saw the Championship play offs is now worth minimum £220m to the winner. What do we get for 2nd? Has the TV money really gone up that much?

I could be wrong but isn’t it exactly the same?

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 4:20 pm

I saw the Championship play offs is now worth minimum £220m to the winner. What do we get for 2nd? Has the TV money really gone up that much?

It’s the exact same, but that number entails PL revenue yr 1 (inc tv money, merit payment and extra revenue from sponsors, gate receipts etc) and parachute payments yr 1 and 2 should relegation occur.

Was there an unwritten agreement between the two teams that the winning team gave the possible gate receipts etc to the losing team?

Commy wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 12:51 pm

If you win the lower league play offs you end up losing money .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDtrYQxYHqY

I dont buy this argument. In fact, I'd go as far as saying its just plain dumb

Promotion bonuses will be paid by both Burnley and Leeds
Neither will get as much money as Sunderland for the playoff games

But the revenue gained from being in a higher league will more than cover it

Roosterbooster wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 6:28 pm

I dont buy this argument. In fact, I'd go as far as saying its just plain dumb

Promotion bonuses will be paid by both Burnley and Leeds
Neither will get as much money as Sunderland for the playoff games

But the revenue gained from being in a higher league will more than cover it

But this is about the play off revenue. We weren't in the play offs.

Commy wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 6:34 pm

But this is about the play off revenue. We weren't in the play offs.

I'm aware of that

The point is that you get more money the following year to more than cover the bonuses

If you go up via the playoffs, then you get extra income from merchandise and ticket revenue

So you don't lose money if you win the playoffs

Commy wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 6:34 pm

But this is about the play off revenue. We weren't in the play offs.

Thank God. Scott Parker and the lads ensured we were spared what happened to Sheffield United.

BigF wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 6:28 pm

Was there an unwritten agreement between the two teams that the winning team gave the possible gate receipts etc to the losing team?

I believe it is or definitely was an unwritten agreement.

Started as a charitable act and continued as a tradition.

I suppose you could refer to it as an unwritten agreement.

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Sat May 24, 2025 7:29 pm

Started as a charitable act and continued as a tradition.

I suppose you could refer to it as an unwritten agreement.

Not sure it was a charitable act, more likely two chairman got together before the game and hedged their bets.

Barry Kilby did something similar before our fa cup tie at Watford. It just means both teams benefit a little instead of one side a lot.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sun May 25, 2025 9:56 am

Not sure it was a charitable act, more likely two chairman got together before the game and hedged their bets.

Barry Kilby did something similar before our fa cup tie at Watford. It just means both teams benefit a little instead of one side a lot.

correct they halved the prize money whoever got to the semi final i heard , wonder if Stan regrets putting Blake and Little on the bench that afternoon as it was a strange decision..

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑

Sun May 25, 2025 12:11 pm

correct they halved the prize money whoever got to the semi final i heard , wonder if Stan regrets putting Blake and Little on the bench that afternoon as it was a strange decision..

I wouldn’t ask him if you see him, if I was you.

So far as I know the two chairmen usually mutually agree that the loser can have both lots of gate money, in the Champ/PL playoff at least. There is no reason why a chairman can't say no, not this year, but they always take the rational view that if they go up the gate money is a tiny drop of their income next year, if they stay down it's a big chunk, so they get greater utility (economics term, I think!) by agreeing the deal.