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Raducanu

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:34 pm
by Tackler49
Just read that Raducanu said that she needs to raise her level to compete with the best surely she should have realised 3yrs ago, be amazed if she ever manages to do that.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:45 pm
by TheFamilyCat
What do you call a girl in the middle of a tennis court?

Annette.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:03 am
by Commy
Everything happened to soon for her when she won the US Open. She wasn't ready to handle everything that was thrown at her and the expectation. She stopped enjoying playing and has had to work things out mentally. She also had a few injuries and operations which knocked her back for a while. She seems to be happy again now and is enjoying playing tennis again.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:34 am
by fidelcastro
Commy wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:03 am
Everything happened to soon for her when she won the US Open. She wasn't ready to handle everything that was thrown at her and the expectation. She stopped enjoying playing and has had to work things out mentally. She also had a few injuries and operations which knocked her back for a while. She seems to be happy again now and is enjoying playing tennis again.
She's fit though! :D

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:48 am
by daveisaclaret
fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:34 am
She's fit though! :D
Creep

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:07 pm
by fidelcastro
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:48 am
Creep
Just stating facts! :D

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:36 pm
by gtclaret
Sacking one coach after another doesn't help,just ask that lot down at Watford

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:45 pm
by ollieclarets8
Commy wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:03 am
Everything happened to soon for her when she won the US Open. She wasn't ready to handle everything that was thrown at her and the expectation. She stopped enjoying playing and has had to work things out mentally. She also had a few injuries and operations which knocked her back for a while. She seems to be happy again now and is enjoying playing tennis again.
I don't follow tennis (watch bits of Wimbledon) but whenever I see her mentioned in the papers it's injury or defeat related. It's like she's already had her peak.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:24 pm
by DanH90
Won a US Open very young, and without having to beat a top 10 opponent along the way. An amazing achievement, and she will always have that as long as she lives, but she hadn’t really developed herself on the Tour at that point.

After that she had pressure and hype around her, and injury problems have set her development back. Having said that, I do get the impression she changes coach too often and I hear rumours of quite a pushy father, who perhaps gets too involved in his daughters career!

I still think she will go on to have a great career in the game, but do I think she be a multi grand slam winner and consistent top 10 player, I doubt it.

Her talent and looks will lead to her becoming a very wealthy young lady through sponsorship deals, so I’m sure she’s pretty happy!

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 4:25 pm
by Mondsley
No doubt in my mind, she won the US open in pretty unique circumstances. But it was a fantastic achievement nevertheless. She is still only 22, and if she can stay injury free, I can only see her getting better. In my opinion she is by far the best female British tennis player for many years. Mention of her wealth is interesting. I've always thought that tennis is a sport where you can make decent money without being in the top echelons of the game. One of Emma's opponents recently is a Spanish/Moldovan called Busca. In 10 years as a pro, she has never been higher than 56 in the world. But her career earnings top $3,000,000. Nice work if you can get it!!

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:02 pm
by mikeS
Can she play centre-back?😳

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:56 pm
by dsr
DanH90 wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:24 pm
Won a US Open very young, and without having to beat a top 10 opponent along the way. An amazing achievement, and she will always have that as long as she lives, but she hadn’t really developed herself on the Tour at that point.

After that she had pressure and hype around her, and injury problems have set her development back. Having said that, I do get the impression she changes coach too often and I hear rumours of quite a pushy father, who perhaps gets too involved in his daughters career!

I still think she will go on to have a great career in the game, but do I think she be a multi grand slam winner and consistent top 10 player, I doubt it.

Her talent and looks will lead to her becoming a very wealthy young lady through sponsorship deals, so I’m sure she’s pretty happy!
In the US Open, she did beat the players who beat the numbers 1,2,3,4, and 5 seeds. So she wasn't beating rabbits.

Funnily enough her opponent Leila Fernandez hasnt really gone on to great things either.

I think a lot of Raducanu's problem is pressure. In the US Open there were few expectations even from the first qualifying round. (Wasn't she seeded about 31 in the qualifying? Reaching the 1st round proper counted as success. After that, she just kept hitting the ball and winning points. Nothing complicated, just keep hitting it hard and into the corners. She never gave much impression that she expected to win the next match.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:26 pm
by Elizabeth
It would not surprise me to hear she has retired in the next 12 months.
I didn't like her taking on so many commercial engagements immediately she won the US Open in 2021 which made me question her commitment to the sport.
She has always been fully commited though to her image and while I do think she is making one last effort to take the sport serious I think the damage has been done.
Only two weeks ago her ' coach' Mark Petchey said in all seriousness that people should forget 2021 because the tennis balls are now 4 times heavier for Raducanu.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:57 pm
by karatekid
Why does the BBC sports site give so much space to her? Like Cheney Hawkes she is a one hit wonder.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:17 pm
by Goliath
She's a marketers dream. We've seen it before with Kournikova and Bouchard to name a few. Thrust into the limelight until the tennis become almost like a secondary career.

I'm pretty sceptical about that Alcaraz doubles line up as well. That's blatantly a marketing ploy. Why on earth is he playing mixed doubles at a grand slam.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:54 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Sacking her coach immediately after he took her to the US title was a ridiculous decision. Along with football clubs that sack coaches/managers while in good positions I have no sympathy for her or them.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:38 am
by Darnhill Claret
Kournikova was a top doubles player, even ranked number 1 in the world at one time. Won 16 doubles titles.
Injury ended her career.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:57 am
by Enola Gay
karatekid wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:57 pm
Why does the BBC sports site give so much space to her? Like Cheney Hawkes she is a one hit wonder.
This might - and I realise in advance this is a bold statement - be the most cretinously feckin’ stupid thing I’ve ever read in this board or its predecessor.

Beating the rest of the world’s elite in a major sporting tournament or getting people to buy your single? Yeah, totally comparable.

Arsehole.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:52 am
by IanMcL
I watched today. She plays well within herself. As tjough she just wants to put on a bit of a show but not go too far in a tournament.

Off court, she has contracts which bring in Mega Millions, each year. It is as though the tennis is an obligation, so that the contract conditions are met.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:09 am
by Goalkeeper
Enola Gay wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:57 am
This might - and I realise in advance this is a bold statement - be the most cretinously feckin’ stupid thing I’ve ever read in this board or its predecessor.

Beating the rest of the world’s elite in a major sporting tournament or getting people to buy your single? Yeah, totally comparable.

Arsehole.
To be fair mate, I think you have just surpassed it.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:15 am
by claretburns
Goliath wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:17 pm
I'm pretty sceptical about that Alcaraz doubles line up as well. That's blatantly a marketing ploy. Why on earth is he playing mixed doubles at a grand slam.
To be fair a lot of the top players have put their name forward for the mixed doubles. They're doing it differently this year at the US Open in that the mixed doubles tournament will begin 2 weeks prior to the Singles getting underway, almost like a warm up tournament and as such they have had to much interest compared to spots available, so some doubles will need to drop out.

Also the partnership with Alcarez isn't a definite declaration they will take part, it was just they had to declare their interest prior to the deadline, many will change their minds beforehand.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:23 am
by Papabendi
she's become a marketing vehicle and that's pretty much it. It's now a question of how long she can spin that out if her current form continues.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:28 am
by dsr
Papabendi wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:23 am
she's become a marketing vehicle and that's pretty much it. It's now a question of how long she can spin that out if her current form continues.
She's world number 38 and Britain's number 1. If you're so contemptuous of that sort of form, what must you think of Katie Boulter?

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:16 am
by Papabendi
Katie Boulter looks to be at a similar level yet receives far less attention. Neither look capable of getting very far in major tournaments. Wasn’t Radacanu recently beaten by a rookie no one has heard of? It might just be time to accept the tournament she did win was a one off. It happens.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:11 am
by willsclarets
If you look at the BBC website and do a search for both Emma Radacanu and Katie Boulter, the amount of content and coverage is almost identical. Just last month she did a feature interview and video.

Ironically those criticising the BBC probably just have themselves a bias towards noticing Radacanu coverage. Would a thread be started on Katie Boulters form? Probably not. Would the same people reply? Probably not.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:53 am
by Papabendi
willsclarets wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:11 am
If you look at the BBC website and do a search for both Emma Radacanu and Katie Boulter, the amount of content and coverage is almost identical. Just last month she did a feature interview and video.

Ironically those criticising the BBC probably just have themselves a bias towards noticing Radacanu coverage. Would a thread be started on Katie Boulters form? Probably not. Would the same people reply? Probably not.
I haven't done a comparison. But the BBC isn't the whole 'media' these days, is it?

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:55 am
by willsclarets
Papabendi wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:53 am
I haven't done a comparison. But the BBC isn't the whole 'media' these days, is it?
Sorry that wasn't in reference to your post, someone mentioned the BBC specifically above.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:02 am
by TheFamilyCat
I know that the close season sees some topics get a bit more engagement than they normally would but Raducanu v Boulter's column inches isn't one I was expecting.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:36 am
by karatekid
Enola Gay wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:57 am
This might - and I realise in advance this is a bold statement - be the most cretinously feckin’ stupid thing I’ve ever read in this board or its predecessor.

Beating the rest of the world’s elite in a major sporting tournament or getting people to buy your single? Yeah, totally comparable.

Arsehole.

Do you have a poster of her above your bed? ;)

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:08 pm
by aggi
Was there today and watched her and Sabalenka. Radacanu just doesn't seem to have the power of the best players.

Her serves are 10-15mph slower but she also doesn't have the same venom in her shots. She can pick a good shot but just doesn't have the power of the best players.

She beat Xu fairly comfortably but even though she was 17 she was still the more powerful player.

She's a player who would have done well in the 90s but not with the current crop of players

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:41 am
by yTib
the british press are literally obsessed with her.

she is a middling tennis play who looks like a cartoon chipmunk and has bowed legs.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:20 am
by dsr
yTib wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:41 am
the british press are literally obsessed with her.

she is a middling tennis play who looks like a cartoon chipmunk and has bowed legs.
What an obnoxious thing to say. Are you really that sort of person?

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:27 am
by Pearcey
Some standard British hatred for a British major champion. A title that can never be taken away. She deserves respect. Hope she can get back to that level.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 6:42 am
by Caballo
In a world of 8 billion, she's one of sixty eight people to acheive what she has. I can only strive for such mediocrity.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 7:01 am
by Selby Claret
Caballo wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 6:42 am
In a world of 8 billion, she's one of sixty eight people to acheive what she has. I can only strive for such mediocrity.
Maybe you should have concentrated more at your selective grammar school paid for by your finance sector parents and not been distracted by the skiing and horse-riding ;)

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 8:32 am
by Guppyspotter
To me, just the epitome of the way sport has gone. It's all about the money. Media fawning all over her because of her looks not because she has been really successful. Did someone mention Chesney?

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 2:16 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
I think she has suffered from early success. The Brits like a struggle. In their mind, to quote a certain bequiffed morose bellend, "She just hasn't earned it yet, baby"

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:36 pm
by forzagranata
The idea that just because she has signed these sponsorship and endorsement deals that she isn't 'focused' on her game is nonsense. Its a media narrative that taps into people's jealousies but its not backed up by much evidence.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:40 pm
by dsr
Guppyspotter wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 8:32 am
To me, just the epitome of the way sport has gone. It's all about the money. Media fawning all over her because of her looks not because she has been really successful. Did someone mention Chesney?
There are only 8 living Britons who have won any Grand Slam tennis tournament, and by the end of Wimbledon 5 of them will be over 80 years old. "Really successful" has a very high bar, obviously.

(PS - that can be today's quiz. I'll give you Emma Raducanu as a starter.)

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:41 pm
by yTib
well at least katie boulter got on one of the front pages today.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:45 pm
by Goliath
forzagranata wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:36 pm
The idea that just because she has signed these sponsorship and endorsement deals that she isn't 'focused' on her game is nonsense. Its a media narrative that taps into people's jealousies but its not backed up by much evidence.
The evidence is her lack of results in relation to her potential since the US open win.

That along with her huge marketing income, constant fall outs with coaches and last season at least a lack of matches which came across as an arrogance in the sense of it being bad for her brand to be playing in qualifiers etc.

And I'm a fan of hers.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:50 pm
by ollieclarets8
dsr wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:40 pm
(PS - that can be today's quiz. I'll give you Emma Raducanu as a starter.)
I thought I had 4 of them (including Raducanu) but you say 5 will be over 80? I had Heather Watson and the Murray brothers making up 4 of those 8.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:53 pm
by Selby Claret
ollieclarets8 wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:50 pm
I thought I had 4 of them (including Raducanu) but you say 5 will be over 80? I had Heather Watson and the Murray brothers making up 4 of those 8.
Sue Barker's not over 80 either

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:54 pm
by ollieclarets8
Selby Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:53 pm
Sue Barker's not over 80 either
Apart from all that it was a good quiz :)

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:55 pm
by dsr
ollieclarets8 wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:50 pm
I thought I had 4 of them (including Raducanu) but you say 5 will be over 80? I had Heather Watson and the Murray brothers making up 4 of those 8.
Singles, sorry. If it was doubles there would be another Murray, John Lloyd, numerous others. Sue Barker, Andy Murray, Emma Raducanu are the three under-80's.

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:01 pm
by Selby Claret
Presumably it was Grand Slam singles:
A Murray
S Barker
E Raducanu
+ 5 over 80

There are at least a dozen (if not more) British doubles winners

EDIT: Beat me to it DSR thanks for clarification

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:07 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Virginia Wade

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:10 pm
by dsr
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:07 pm
Virginia Wade
Yes, she's the one who turns 80 next week. (Thursday 10th.)

Re: Raducanu

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:25 pm
by sjb
Ann Jones
Christine Truman
Angela Mortimer