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Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:23 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
Got beat 7-1 off Luzern’s under 15s boys team (So 14 year old kids)
Any half decent mens Sunday league team would destroy the best womens team in the world, i think thats pretty common knowledge.
So how is this debate about EQUAL pay even a thing ??? If they was as good fair enough but ‘professional footballers’ getting beat (hammered) by 14 year old kids is laughable and puts the argument about pay to bed.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:29 pm
by NottsClaret
How many women are expecting or asking for equal pay? How many are unaware of the huge differences between male and female sport? I don’t know any.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:32 pm
by NewClaret
Is there any debate about equal pay?
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:34 pm
by Spijed
NottsClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:29 pm
How many women are expecting or asking for equal pay? How many are unaware of the huge differences between male and female sport? I don’t know any.
I think the Grand Slams in Tennis are the only ones where the prize money is equal, and are actually better paid (three sets compared to five)
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:34 pm
by bumba
Alesha Lehmann is one of the worst for asking for equal pay and she plays for Switzerland.
If women get paid equal then so should players at Padiham
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:37 pm
by tpol
Looking forward to some of the comments on this one, off to a blinder already
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:46 pm
by boatshed bill
NottsClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:29 pm
How many women are expecting or asking for equal pay? How many are unaware of the huge differences between male and female sport? I don’t know any.
if WSL was earning the TV companies the same money as the EPL the women would be paid accordingly, I guess.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:49 pm
by agreenwood
A timely reminder that I need to work through some of my Netflix watchlist…
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:54 pm
by equinox
agreenwood wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:49 pm
A timely reminder that I need to work through some of my Netflix watchlist…
Why have you done that though? So far, on this particular thread, there's absolutely no need.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:57 pm
by TheFamilyCat
I reckon the score would've been more but the 15 year old lads spent a lot of time staring at their arses.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:04 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
“If they was as good”.
Sigh…
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:41 pm
by Bowclaret
I’ll say it - Women’s football is terrible.
We all know it !
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm
by fatboy47
3 pager?
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:57 pm
by jrgbfc
Don't see the need to constantly compare the womens game to the mens. Its basically a different sport.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:59 pm
by CharlieinNewMexico
ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:23 pm
Got beat 7-1 off Luzern’s under 15s boys team (So 14 year old kids)
Any half decent mens Sunday league team would destroy the best womens team in the world, i think thats pretty common knowledge.
So how is this debate about EQUAL pay even a thing ??? If they was as good fair enough but ‘professional footballers’ getting beat (hammered) by 14 year old kids is laughable and puts the argument about pay to bed.
I'm sure you can think of a profession where women are miles better at it than men for some reason or other but you'd throw a massive wobbly if men were discriminated against and paid less.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:00 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:59 pm
I'm sure you can think of a profession where women are miles better at it than men for some reason or other but you'd throw a massive wobbly if men were discriminated against and paid less.
Cleaning maybe ? Nothing else
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:03 pm
by Rileybobs
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:07 pm
by Quicknick
Whenever I watch the Lionesses, I wonder how far down the men's pyramid you'd have to go to find a team who wouldn't beat them.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:09 pm
by ksrclaret
These sorts of threads are great for spotting the incels.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:09 pm
by pureclaret
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:59 pm
I'm sure you can think of a profession where women are miles better at it than men for some reason or other but you'd throw a massive wobbly if men were discriminated against and paid less.
Childbirth
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:19 pm
by JR1882
jrgbfc wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:57 pm
Don't see the need to constantly compare the womens game to the mens. Its basically a different sport.
It 100% is totally different to the men’s game, it needs to stand alone. It’s the media’s insistence on pretending it’s the same thing that causes much of the turn off for most people.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:19 pm
by AfloatinClaret
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:59 pm
... a profession where women.... you'd throw a massive wobbly if men were discriminated against and paid less.
I understand that female actors in the blue movie industry earn substantially more than their male counterparts.
Then again, that may in part perhaps be comparable to the 3 set/5 set arguement in tennis, insofar as the ladies are likely able to perform more often in day than the men
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:36 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Quicknick wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:07 pm
Whenever I watch the Lionesses, I wonder how far down the men's pyramid you'd have to go to find a team who wouldn't beat them.
Strange thing to be thinking while you're watching.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:37 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Lets not fall into the trap of judging a fish by its ability to climb a tree......
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:38 pm
by Quicknick
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:36 pm
Strange thing to be thinking while you're watching.
Not at all. Skipton Bulldogs circa 1965-66 would have leathered them.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:48 pm
by Darnhill Claret
It's all about competitive sport. There should be no pay comparisons as the men don't play against the women.
There is no pay equality in the men's game. Footballers and their agents argue for their individual wages and bonuses etc.
Tennis is quite unique in the way that prizemoney has developed, but those paying wages should be firmer in only paying what they can afford in wages in competitive sport generally.
Golf seems to have managed their prize money well, coupled with covering expenses, but as in most sports, profit is only made at the top level.
Below that, it is more like an expensive hobby.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:10 am
by AlargeClaret
Not unlike few yrs ago the all conquering US women’s team were beat 5-2 by an u15 Dallas ( I think ) academy team .
It’s a bit harsh to compare the 2 games , though it’s the media that are ramming the women’s game “ being equal “ down our throats .Unfortunately their core product is just very poor as a spectacle , it’s not their fault , it’s just what it is .
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:14 pm
by Dazzler
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:15 pm
by Dazzler
NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:32 pm
Is there any debate about equal pay?
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ns-players
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:19 pm
by daveisaclaret
Blokes who don't like women's football but care about it are odd and probably weird too
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:23 pm
by Dazzler
NottsClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:29 pm
How many women are expecting or asking for equal pay? How many are unaware of the huge differences between male and female sport? I don’t know any.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/64319728
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:23 pm
by Dazzler
NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:32 pm
Is there any debate about equal pay?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/64319728
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:24 pm
by Rileybobs
I see no reason why male and female international footballers shouldn’t be paid the same by their football association.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:30 pm
by Falcon
What a weird position for OP to take.
Junior male sprinters run faster than adult women sprinters as well.
Junior male swimmers swim faster than adult women swimmers too.
I imagine junior male basketball, rugby, hockey, tennis, cricket teams also are capable of beating the best women's teams on top of that.
Let's just bin off all the women's sports at the Olympics too.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:32 pm
by TheFamilyCat
AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:10 am
Not unlike few yrs ago the all conquering US women’s team were beat 5-2 by an u15 Dallas ( I think ) academy team .
It’s a bit harsh to compare the 2 games , though it’s the media that are ramming the women’s game “ being equal “ down our throats .Unfortunately their core product is just very poor as a spectacle , it’s not their fault , it’s just what it is .
That's just more bullshit though, isn't it? Can you provide any links to anywhere in the media anyone has claimed that women's football is of equal standard to men's?
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:32 pm
by ClaretOfMancunia
On the pay discussion, I don't think it's a case of ability. It's about how much money the women's game generates compared to the men's game.
It's not men's problem to solve on that front. If more women watched women's football, as many men as watch men's football, then equal pay could be justified.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:33 pm
by andyh
It is all about the commercial value of the product. If viewing figures go up then they should be remunerated. It is the reason Prem players get paid more than someone of equal skill in just about any other league. (Excl Saudi) If women watched women’s football to the same extent men watched men’s football there would be people falling over themselves to pay more to capture the tv rights which in turn would flow down to the players.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:40 pm
by The Shire Claret
Every UFC/Boxing Man in a weight Class would Beat Most or all UFC/Boxing Women but both over time of building the female side sell out arenas and PPV's sold
Both Thriving and people want to watch .... very little ... 'the women can't beat the men' chat...
Makes me laugh every-time I see this point made about 'better' it's a complete straw-man argument.
It's about entertainment and competitiveness and allowing a sport to grow.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:51 pm
by andyh
The Shire Claret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:40 pm
Every UFC/Boxing Man in a weight Class would Beat Most or all UFC/Boxing Women but both over time of building the female side sell out arenas and PPV's sold
Both Thriving and people want to watch .... very little ... 'the women can't beat the men' chat...
Makes me laugh every-time I see this point made about 'better' it's a complete straw-man argument.
It's about entertainment and competitiveness and allowing a sport to grow.
Exactly. It all comes down to viewing figures. Those for women continue to rise. And as they do so should the pay. It isn’t about who could beat who but rather about who wants to watch.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:16 pm
by aggi
I always find it weird when a Burnley fan says they don't want to watch women's football because they only want to watch the highest standard of football. They must have had some lengthy spells of not watching Burnley.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:25 pm
by No Ney Never
The moment owd big chin* was successful in getting the wage cap removed, there's never been equal pay in professional football. Pay is negotiated on an individual basis.
The commercial value of the offering determines how much is willing to be made available to retain the service of those attracting the income, be it TV, sponsorship, reward or any form of income.
As for women wanting the same as men, haven't they always? I blame Emily Pankhurst and the suffering gets!
*Jimmy Hill (face like a half moon).
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:33 pm
by Dazzler
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:32 pm
That's just more bullshit though, isn't it? Can you provide any links to anywhere in the media anyone has claimed that women's football is of equal standard to men's?
It's how things are worded, such as the word Elite.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 3gl9v947zo
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:40 pm
by The Shire Claret
Can you have an Elite Show Pony and and Elite Race Horse or an Elite Snooker and Elite Pool player ?
Elite Hog Dog Eating Competitor
All Elite 'Within their field'
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:57 pm
by Claretfanatic1982
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:59 pm
I'm sure you can think of a profession where women are miles better at it than men for some reason or other but you'd throw a massive wobbly if men were discriminated against and paid less.
In the world of modelling women are traditionally paid more and are better than men.
I've not seen ClaretsPadiham complain once about this.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:03 pm
by ollieclarets8
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:59 pm
I'm sure you can think of a profession where women are miles better at it than men
Sexual favours?
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:03 pm
by TheFamilyCat
If you've interpreted that to mean comparable with the men's equivalent the problem lies with you, not the media.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:20 pm
by aggi
This is a bizarre take. Laura Kenny, nah she's not an elite cyclist, some men are faster.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:24 pm
by Dazzler
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:03 pm
If you've interpreted that to mean comparable with the men's equivalent the problem lies with you, not the media.
I would say James Standley may well have interpreted it that way. He wrote the article.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:43 pm
by Dazzler
aggi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:20 pm
This is a bizarre take. Laura Kenny, nah she's not an elite cyclist, some men are faster.
What's bizarre? I posted a link where the word Elite was used for a 20-year-old Woman keeper to point out why some folk may
see it as comparing it to Men's football.
Re: Switzerland Women
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:44 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Dazzler wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:24 pm
I would say James Standley may well have interpreted it that way. He wrote the article.
I can't see any mention of men's football in the article so I don't really know where you're coming from here.