We had two kids vaping in front of us.We asked them to stop and one cleared off at half time.The other decided to ignore us till I threatened to get the steward I know its not on the level of coke.But we had elderly fans round us possibly asthmatic. I did ask the young steward to keep any eye out but he was about 2 yrs younger that the trackie clad vaper and didnt want grief.
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This really pisses me off people just think they can vape anywhere I thought the whole thing about vapes was to help people stop smoking.In my view it's created a bigger problem.Also without knowing the long term medical problems that will almost certainly happen

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:44 am

We had two kids vaping in front of us.We asked them to stop and one cleared off at half time.The other decided to ignore us till I threatened to get the steward I know its not on the level of coke.But we had elderly fans round us possibly asthmatic. I did ask the young steward to keep any eye out but he was about 2 yrs younger that the trackie clad vaper and didnt want grief.
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Rules don't apply to everyone apparently

Someone on the catering thread openly admitting sneaking his pint to his seat.

You should report it to the club in writing and let them deal with it. They were probably not in there usual seats but at least it’s alerting the club for any future issues.

Row x wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:13 am

Rules don't apply to everyone apparently

Someone on the catering thread openly admitting sneaking his pint to his seat.

He'll get his comeuppance one day!!!!

Ptangyangkipperbang wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:53 am

This really pisses me off people just think they can vape anywhere I thought the whole thing about vapes was to help people stop smoking.In my view it's created a bigger problem.Also without knowing the long term medical problems that will almost certainly happen

This is exactly how I see it too. Originally perceived as a method to help addicted smokers cut down and quit, it's simply become an epidemic all of its own and seems to have become the latest "must have" fashion accessory for young and old alike and often by people who have never even been real smokers. The long term effects on those using them and those in the vicinity won't be known for some time, but when I was a lad they were still promoting cigarettes as being cool and actually good for you, so we'll see. Pubs, restaurants and other indoor venues need to either get a policy or have one forced on them, because atm it just seems so hit and miss as some places turn a blind eye whilst others actively prevent it and even I'm not sure what the rules actually are.

PS. I also think men vaping looks extremely "camp" (if I'm allowed to say that!?) but maybe that's just me!

Tell them to grow a pair and smoke a proper fag. Pains me to see a generation of young ‘men’ growing up puffing on a strawberry and marshmallow vape.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:44 am

We had two kids vaping in front of us.We asked them to stop and one cleared off at half time.The other decided to ignore us till I threatened to get the steward I know its not on the level of coke.But we had elderly fans round us possibly asthmatic. I did ask the young steward to keep any eye out but he was about 2 yrs younger that the trackie clad vaper and didnt want grief.
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Well done on speaking to them, and reporting it to a steward. Too many people turn a blind eye to these things.

A lad i know has had a collapsed lung recently. They don't know 100% it was down to vaping but i'm pretty sure it must have been. This is a pretty healthy bloke in his early 40s.

Sadly the unregulated sale of vapes has been a disaster. Whilst long before vaping smoking was reducing and vapes are a useful aid to smoking cessation; we now have an increasing number of people, especially teenagers, who have never smoked but are vaping and in the absence of vapes would in all probability have never smoked-yet another future health problem heading our way.

Not acceptable to blow vape smoke where others are breathing. It’s like some have forgotten Covid already. Aside from this it’s like disgusting liquid glue.

Boy i just hate any form of smoking .
They should get 10 years hard labour for that , now they will be out in 10 days but its worth a try .

I personally know of somebody (a ST holder) who received a ban of 2-3 games recently after being caught vaping on CCTV.
The club do take this seriously.

I’m one of those horrible ex-smokers who find it distasteful but it hardly happens that I’m near a smoker now. But these vapes are dreadful if I’m near anyone and had a problem at Preston last season with a few lads in front of me vaping.

While banning their use on the Turf, didn’t we have the stand sponsored by a vaping company a few years ago when it was the Totally Wicked Bob Lord Stand.

Leon_C wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:43 pm

I personally know of somebody (a ST holder) who received a ban of 2-3 games recently after being caught vaping on CCTV.
The club do take this seriously.

Was that after being caught a few times Leon_C? Surely they wouldn’t issue a ban for one incident.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:07 pm

While banning their use on the Turf, didn’t we have the stand sponsored by a vaping company a few years ago when it was the Totally Wicked Bob Lord Stand.

You do take any opportunity don’t you. Impressive.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:22 pm

You do take any opportunity don’t you. Impressive.

What on earth are you on about?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:23 pm

What on earth are you on about?

Probably thinks you're having a pop at the owners, though I'm sure it was under the previous owners that stand was named.

Row x wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:28 pm

Probably thinks you're having a pop at the owners, though I'm sure it was under the previous owners that stand was named.

Long long before the current owners, maybe even before John B & Mike Garlick became chairmen. I’m trying to recall whether it was when Fletcher was chief executive or Lee Hoos.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:31 pm

Long long before the current owners, maybe even before John B & Mike Garlick became chairmen. I’m trying to recall whether it was when Fletcher was chief executive or Lee Hoos.

Blackburn based firm, not a million miles from Ewood, seems a while ago like you say

Row x wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:41 pm

Blackburn based firm, not a million miles from Ewood, seems a while ago like you say

They have a shop, or had one, on St James Street almost across from McDonalds.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:08 pm

Was that after being caught a few times Leon_C? Surely they wouldn’t issue a ban for one incident.

I'm not 100% sure, Tony. I saw a copy of the letter from the club though.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:31 pm

Long long before the current owners, maybe even before John B & Mike Garlick became chairmen. I’m trying to recall whether it was when Fletcher was chief executive or Lee Hoos.

It started in 2012 with Mike Garlic as chairman.

deanothedino wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:34 pm

It started in 2012 with Mike Garlic as chairman.

I knew it was a fair while ago - 2012 started with Barry Kilby as chairman and moved on to John B & Mike Garlick as joint chairmen. It would have been Lee Hoos then as Chief Exec - he started at the end of 2011.

As far as I can remember wasn't vaping introduced as a deterrent to smoking...... From the evidence I've seen vaping is much more dangerous than smoking ever was. For starters a cigarette is thrown away after its been smoked in 10 - 20 mins whereas vapes are a never ending input of nicotene.

Sutton-Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:50 pm

As far as I can remember wasn't vaping introduced as a deterrent to smoking...... From the evidence I've seen vaping is much more dangerous than smoking ever was. For starters a cigarette is thrown away after its been smoked in 10 - 20 mins whereas vapes are a never ending input of nicotene.

I think most health professionals have pretty much concluded that vaping is the safer of the 2 but you do have a valid point with nicotine as it's a stimulant & spikes adrenaline I stopped as it was making my heart race. Vaping is now used as more of a safer substitute rather than a smoking cessation aid. Vapes were supposed to be designed as smoking cessation aids but the people I've come across have no intentions of stopping vaping or weaning themselves off them.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:03 pm

I think most health professionals have pretty much concluded that vaping is the safer of the 2 but you do have a valid point with nicotine as it's a stimulant & spikes adrenaline I stopped as it was making my heart race. Vaping is now used as more of a safer substitute rather than a smoking cessation aid. Vapes were supposed to be designed as smoking cessation aids but the people I've come across have no intentions of stopping vaping or weaning themselves off them.

Agreed, but kids are getting into vaping at 14/15 through peer pressure - not sure they would've done the same with cigarettes. In York and probably most towns and cities vapes are being sold over the counter illegally to schoolkids - even turkish barbers are selling them and who knows whats in them...

Sutton-Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:14 pm

Agreed, but kids are getting into vaping at 14/15 through peer pressure - not sure they would've done the same with cigarettes. In York and probably most towns and cities vapes are being sold over the counter illegally to schoolkids - even turkish barbers are selling them and who knows whats in them...

I agree we have an epidemic of children addicted to vaping the pavements are peppered with them.

Sutton-Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:14 pm

Agreed, but kids are getting into vaping at 14/15 through peer pressure - not sure they would've done the same with cigarettes. In York and probably most towns and cities vapes are being sold over the counter illegally to schoolkids - even turkish barbers are selling them and who knows whats in them...

The same happened with cigarettes.

I suspect that more are on vapes these days because they’re far easier to enjoy than a cigarette ever was.

No one ever had a first drag of a cigarette and thought ‘ooh that was nice, I’m going to get myself a twenty pack’. If you wanted to ‘fit in’ and be a ‘cool kid’ (if that’s what smoking was seen as) you had to persevere! Madness really.

A strawberry, water melon, bubblegum or whatever other flavour vape is a different matter. Far easier and certainly much more palatable.

It’s actually pretty scandalous that these companies were allowed to develop all of these flavours and branding that might appeal to kids, under the guise of helping smokers to stop.

I suspect that there are a few tobacco companies who are heavily invested in vape companies, somewhere along the line. Didn’t they do similar in the food industry!?

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:39 pm

The same happened with cigarettes.

I suspect that more are on vapes these days because they’re far easier to enjoy than a cigarette ever was.

No one ever had a first drag of a cigarette and thought ‘ooh that was nice, I’m going to get myself a twenty pack’. If you wanted to ‘fit in’ and be a ‘cool kid’ (if that’s what smoking was seen as) you had to persevere! Madness really.

A strawberry, water melon, bubblegum or whatever other flavour vape is a different matter. Far easier and certainly much more palatable.

It’s actually pretty scandalous that these companies were allowed to develop all of these flavours and branding that might appeal to kids, under the guise of helping smokers to stop.

I suspect that there are a few tobacco companies who are heavily invested in vape companies, somewhere along the line. Didn’t they do similar in the food industry!?

Thats exactly what they did..... lied to us about what foods were good for us and got everybody onto ultra processed shiiite. Vapes really are bad news for us especially kids - its a drug that seems to be legal and nobody is interested in controlling it - absolute epidemic.

Sutton-Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:52 pm

Thats exactly what they did..... lied to us about what foods were good for us and got everybody onto ultra processed shiiite. Vapes really are bad news for us especially kids - its a drug that seems to be legal and nobody is interested in controlling it - absolute epidemic.

And I’d suggest vapes are probably more addictive. The nicotine content may be of similar levels to cigarettes, but the big difference is that vapes are consumed far more frequently than all but the biggest chain smoker ever would a cigarette.

ok , if the club doesn't want it, fair enough, but what a colossal overeaction !!
you lot come from generations of hardened smokers, everyone did it. It took a massive effort to get the health warnings across, decades in fact, but smoking was something ALL your older relatives did. A few mild clouds of what is basically water vapour with a scent, and look at you.

NottsClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:11 pm

Tell them to grow a pair and smoke a proper fag. Pains me to see a generation of young ‘men’ growing up puffing on a strawberry and marshmallow vape.

If they could see how they look to others, they might stop!

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:47 pm

ok , if the club doesn't want it, fair enough, but what a colossal overeaction !!
you lot come from generations of hardened smokers, everyone did it. It took a massive effort to get the health warnings across, decades in fact, but smoking was something ALL your older relatives did. A few mild clouds of what is basically water vapour with a scent, and look at you.

Somebody wants attention

Couple of seasons ago, I was back in the U.K. Another Claret from Melbourne was also home in Accrington. For the promotion game at Middlesbrough, we didn’t have tickets. So to get a good Clarets night we decided to meet up and go to the Royal Dyche. After about 30 minutes we’d had enough. Couldn’t believe vaping was allowed indoors. Both of us had sore throats, and horrible taste. We went around to the miners, it was much quieter. But could breathe.
Here in Australia, vaping & smoking are regarded the same, have the same rules/laws.

If you contact the club and report them, the club will catch them on CCTV and ban them.

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:47 pm

A few mild clouds of what is basically water vapour with a scent, and look at you

You sure about that?

RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:20 am

Here in Australia, vaping & smoking are regarded the same, have the same rules/laws.

The law is similar here, or at least it's supposed to be.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:39 pm

The same happened with cigarettes.

I suspect that more are on vapes these days because they’re far easier to enjoy than a cigarette ever was.

No one ever had a first drag of a cigarette and thought ‘ooh that was nice, I’m going to get myself a twenty pack’. If you wanted to ‘fit in’ and be a ‘cool kid’ (if that’s what smoking was seen as) you had to persevere! Madness really.

A strawberry, water melon, bubblegum or whatever other flavour vape is a different matter. Far easier and certainly much more palatable.

It’s actually pretty scandalous that these companies were allowed to develop all of these flavours and branding that might appeal to kids, under the guise of helping smokers to stop.

I suspect that there are a few tobacco companies who are heavily invested in vape companies, somewhere along the line. Didn’t they do similar in the food industry!?

Going back a few years, this is pretty similar to the outcry about alcopops. They seemed to have slowly died out, but I think vaping is here to stay. I just hope that some currently hidden medical issue doesn't appear following medium/long term use of vaping.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:39 pm

The same happened with cigarettes.

I suspect that more are on vapes these days because they’re far easier to enjoy than a cigarette ever was.

No one ever had a first drag of a cigarette and thought ‘ooh that was nice, I’m going to get myself a twenty pack’. If you wanted to ‘fit in’ and be a ‘cool kid’ (if that’s what smoking was seen as) you had to persevere! Madness really.

A strawberry, water melon, bubblegum or whatever other flavour vape is a different matter. Far easier and certainly much more palatable.

It’s actually pretty scandalous that these companies were allowed to develop all of these flavours and branding that might appeal to kids, under the guise of helping smokers to stop.

I suspect that there are a few tobacco companies who are heavily invested in vape companies, somewhere along the line. Didn’t they do similar in the food industry!?

Going back a few years, this is pretty similar to the outcry about alcopops. They seemed to have slowly died out, but I think vaping is here to stay. I just hope that some currently hidden medical issue doesn't appear following medium/long term use of vaping.

NHS facts & myths on vaping

https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-s ... the-facts/


Myth 8: Exposure to vape aerosol is harmful to people around you

Fact
There is no evidence so far that vaping is harmful to people around you.

Dazzler wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 11, 2025 10:01 am

NHS facts & myths on vaping

https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-s ... the-facts/


Myth 8: Exposure to vape aerosol is harmful to people around you

Fact
There is no evidence so far that vaping is harmful to people around you.

I would say the most important part of that last sentence are the two words "so far..."

Many decades passed before they realised there was such a thing as secondary smoke inhalation..

Dazzler wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 11, 2025 10:01 am

NHS facts & myths on vaping

https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-s ... the-facts/


Myth 8: Exposure to vape aerosol is harmful to people around you

Fact
There is no evidence so far that vaping is harmful to people around you.

Ahh that old chestnut, OK then

bpgburn wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 11, 2025 10:11 am

I would say the most important part of that last sentence are the two words "so far..."

Many decades passed before they realised there was such a thing as secondary smoke inhalation..

They'll know now for sure but there's that much money involved in vaping they are choosing to slowly release the information & letting people make their own minds up. Vapes have been around now for a good 20 years if they don't know by now it's time to pack the profession in.

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:07 pm

Ahh that old chestnut, OK then

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Your post refers to the actual smoking of cigarettes; my post referred to passive vaping.

To me personally there's a kind of wider issue in play here which I have a particular bug bear about. Imo, anyone can do what they want within the law whether it's my cup of tea or not, but when what they're doing impinges on me and affects me in any way, then it becomes wrong. People who play their music ridiculously loud in their cars are fine by me and are perfectly free to perforate their own eardrums if that's what they wish. However the majority of those people choose to show exactly how much regard they have for other people by winding all the windows down and literally forcing their preferences on somebody else. That's the sign of a totally selfish cock! I don't actually know or particularly care about the long term effects of vaping, but I choose not to do it and I've never been a smoker either. Other people doing it is fine, until it's being shoved on me and the nature of the habit means unfortunately this happens. It's not quite as easy as getting some social decency and self awareness and winding up your car windows to shut out the din!

Didn't realise Rick Astley was into his Chesterfields, maybe explains why he wrote "Never gonna give up".

bodge wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:26 pm

Didn't realise Rick Astley was into his Chesterfields, maybe explains why he wrote "Never gonna give up".

It might also explain why nowadays he does a full set of Smiths covers - there is a light that never goes out.

Virtually all vapes and tattoo inks come from China - they are here to harm us and make a fortune.