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New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 7:42 pm
by pureclaret
Have just heard REAKING:News The board of the Spanish football federation have approved LaLiga's request for Villarreal v Barcelona to be played in Miami in December

It looks as though the Sunderland v Burnley game on 31st Jan may be moved to Washington . Ill need to renew my passport

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 7:59 pm
by ClaretTony
pureclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 7:42 pm
Have just heard REAKING:News The board of the Spanish football federation have approved LaLiga's request for Villarreal v Barcelona to be played in Miami in December

It looks as though the Sunderland v Burnley game on 31st Jan may be moved to Washington . Ill need to renew my passport
Sunderland’s training ground used to be at Washington.

More seriously, I’m hoping FIFA block this nonsense.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:05 pm
by randomclaret2
I susoect that if FIFA dont , our club will be one of those that is all over this...

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:11 pm
by ClaretTony
randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:05 pm
I susoect that if FIFA dont , our club will be one of those that is all over this...
Don’t think it can happen here but the concern is if it happens in one country it makes it easier for others.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:16 pm
by elwaclaret
Didn’t Wrexham and Birmingham have a request to have their league game played in America rejected last season? I seem to remember the FA refused as it would set an unhealthy precedent.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:18 pm
by Transpennine
Once we get to 14 American owners in the Premier league, anything could happen...

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:20 pm
by ClaretTony
Transpennine wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:18 pm
Once we get to 14 American owners in the Premier league, anything could happen...
Not anything once the regulator is in place but it’s worrying and it’s up to 11 now.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:25 pm
by Transpennine
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:20 pm
Not anything once the regulator is in place but it’s worrying and it’s up to 11 now.
Agreed.
It'll be interesting what the final remit of the regulator ends up being. The House of Lords has proposed about 370 ammendments.... many of them led by Karen Brady.... who isn't exactly a fan.
Hopefully the regulator will have the necessary power to stop this nonsense...

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:26 pm
by ClaretTony
Transpennine wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:25 pm
Agreed.
It'll be interesting what the final remit of the regulator ends up being. The House of Lords has proposed about 370 ammendments.... many of them led by Karen Brady.... who isn't exactly a fan.
Hopefully the regulator will have the necessary power to stop this nonsense...
Maybe that’s the regulator’s first job - get rid of Brady. :D

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:27 pm
by DCWat
elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:16 pm
Didn’t Wrexham and Birmingham have a request to have their league game played in America rejected last season? I seem to remember the FA refused as it would set an unhealthy precedent.
If any evidence was needed of American owners not understanding British football, or perhaps more worryingly, not giving a hoot, this is it.

I hope it never happens but I certainly wouldn’t bet against it.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:10 pm
by Transpennine
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:26 pm
Maybe that’s the regulator’s first job - get rid of Brady. :D
Wouldn't that be sweet. They could get the taxpayers' cash back as well for that stadium. But we won't go there....

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:15 pm
by Stockbrokerbelt
The US football authorities were lobbying FIFA to have prem games in the US before the World Cup, very interesting.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:52 pm
by ecc
Transpennine wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:10 pm
Wouldn't that be sweet. They could get the taxpayers' cash back as well for that stadium. But we won't go there....
Don't see why we shouldn't go there. It was, and remains, a disgrace.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 11:27 pm
by Vegas Claret
most of this is driven by Real Madrid because "they can't compete with the Premier League"

funny that:

Top 15 Clubs in Football - Highest Wage Bills (this is from Feb 2025)

Al-Nassr - Saudi Pro League

£298,622,603

Bayern Munich - Bundesliga

£229,840,384

Real Madrid - La Liga

£228,024,846


Manchester City - Premier League

£223,652,000

Paris Saint-Germain - Ligue 1

£184,743,431

Arsenal - Premier League

£172,666,000

Manchester United - Premier League

£171,418,000

Barcelona - La Liga

£167,762,326

Chelsea - Premier League

£161,850,000

Al-Ittihad - Saudi Pro League

£161,332,994

Al-Ahli - Saudi Pro Leauge

£158,143,311

Al-Hilal - Saudi Pro League

£142,469,724

Liverpool - Premier League

£129,376,000

Aston Villa - Premier League

£123,864,000

Inter Milan - Serie A

£117,185,449

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 11:35 pm
by Chester Perry
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 7:59 pm
Sunderland’s training ground used to be at Washington.

More seriously, I’m hoping FIFA block this nonsense.
You need to keep up to date CT

FIFA backed out of a defense of it's old statures 16 months ago - when it was apparent that they and the MLS would would lose their series of court battles

it was all followed on the MMT for several years

most of the details around the climbdown can be found here - search.php?keywords=Relevent&t=20891&sf=msgonly

as for those expecting the new regulator to do more than what was contained in the Football Governance Act (it is now law), that would take more bills to be put before parliament

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:09 am
by Woodleyclaret
Re our football regulator ,they are not exactly pitching in at Wednesday or Morecambe
Money talks and FIFA is run by charlatans so anything is possible.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:14 am
by ClaretTony
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:09 am
Re our football regulator ,they are not exactly pitching in at Wednesday or Morecambe
Money talks and FIFA is run by charlatans so anything is possible.
Situations at those two clubs came too early for the regulator to have any involvement

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:19 am
by willsclarets
I've no doubt it'll happen one day, which is sad. The only way to chase growth is to push global reach. All they care about is making money, the days of owners genuinely caring about the community, supporters and historic culture of a given club is over. It was over as soon as it became the norm to pay players as much per day as some folk earn in years.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:46 am
by wilks_bfc
If this does happen (and I really hope this doesn’t) would those fans that have bought a season ticket for 19 games get a refund/discount?

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:09 am
by maccclaret
It'd be an away game and I suspect that tickets might get to open sale.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 1:13 pm
by RickyBobby
If la liga do it all other leagues will follow and claim they have to do so to compete. The premier league will be no different. The big clubs will push for it. Not only to have games in America but the middle east and asia.
It will be interesting to see what Espanyol do.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 2:09 pm
by Chester Perry
Seire A may be having a game in Austrailia if the Italian FA approves

AC Milan vs. Como in Australia? Italy's FA approves request
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_ ... es-request
https://archive.ph/vxSc6

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 2:31 pm
by dvalley69
Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 2:09 pm
Seire A may be having a game in Austrailia if the Italian FA approves

AC Milan vs. Como in Australia? Italy's FA approves request
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_ ... es-request
https://archive.ph/vxSc6
This would be an even bigger joke because of the Winter Olympics opening ceremony. Why not just invert the fixtures and play them away? They knew about this when the fixtures were compiled.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 2:32 pm
by Tricky Trevor
It’s down to the players to take a stand but when they do the clubs would chuck more money at them and they’d fold.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 9:59 am
by mikeS
I doubt whether the players alone would hold sway.
They're employees after all and play who and where they're told.
Hopefully the new Football regulator will hold a position of some clout. Someone Who will be able to maintain the interests of the Community- the supporters - and long term interests of the clubs, so the football clubs loyal fan base is respected.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 10:07 am
by ArmchairDetective
It was on talk sport yesterday I think that the PL have indicated there are no plans or discussions to do this.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 3:42 pm
by dsr
Transpennine wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:25 pm
Agreed.
It'll be interesting what the final remit of the regulator ends up being. The House of Lords has proposed about 370 ammendments.... many of them led by Karen Brady.... who isn't exactly a fan.
Hopefully the regulator will have the necessary power to stop this nonsense...
The regulator will also have the power to make this nonsense happen. It's a mistake to assume that the regulator will agree with "us" and oppose "them". He or she might go the other way.

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:18 pm
by Chester Perry
posted on the MMT, but for those who do not look at that - there are many - it is also relevant to this thread
Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:15 pm
This is essentially a legal argument, most pertinently it neglects to mention that the MLS had opposed league matches from other countries being played on US soil - that is why Relevent went to court (with several cases) in the US so they could promote such games. It also neglects to mention that FIFA appeared in court to support the MLS stance. That knowledge makes the argument somewhat weasely and revisionist.

from The Athletic

A La Liga game in Miami is a grim prospect, but it’s not FIFA’s job to stop it
https://archive.ph/WvXti