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Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:41 pm
by dandeclaret
Rumoured to be the subject of an £8m bid from Sheff United…..
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:42 pm
by Goliath
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:41 pm
Rumoured to be the subject of an £8m bid from Sheff United…..
Jesus. That's way too high a price
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:44 pm
by wilks_bfc
Goliath wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:42 pm
Jesus. That's way too high a price
If we’re getting a sell on it’s not
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:50 pm
by Vegas Claret
Goliath wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:42 pm
Jesus. That's way too high a price
He's done really well plus the way footy is going if you've ever kicked a ball you'll go for over a million !
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:01 pm
by Papabendi
Good player
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:16 pm
by dougcollins
Papabendi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:01 pm
Good player
He is when he plays us.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:18 pm
by MrTopTier
Love a signing from Coventry do Sheff Utd.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:30 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Unlucky not to make it for us .There were too many consistently better cbs for Bobby to breakthrough He has done well and £8m is not overpriced Choosing the Blunts over Coventry may not be his smartest move though.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:33 pm
by Ptgclaret
Great to see someone from the youth setup doing so well
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:39 pm
by warksclaret
Him and Jimmy Dunne have both been excellent in the Championship. To think that during "toegate" these two deputised for Tarks & Mee v Leicester. I think Thomas scored too
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:51 pm
by NickBFC
MrTopTier wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:18 pm
Love a signing from Coventry do Sheff Utd.
Something the Blades have over us then
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:00 pm
by Dark Cloud
warksclaret wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:39 pm
Him and Jimmy Dunne have both been excellent in the Championship. To think that during "toegate" these two deputised for Tarks & Mee v Leicester. I think Thomas scored too
Think it was Dunne who scored.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:39 pm
by Commy
Sheff Utd were rumoured to be after Dunne this summer as he was out of contract. Not sure if they tried to get him but he decided to stay at QPR or they didn't bother going for him. He was moved to right back by one of the managers and was superb for them.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:08 am
by Darnhill Claret
Should we have been more patient with Dan Ballard?
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:00 am
by ClaretTony
warksclaret wrote: ↑Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:39 pm
Him and Jimmy Dunne have both been excellent in the Championship. To think that during "toegate" these two deputised for Tarks & Mee v Leicester. I think Thomas scored too
Dunne did but Bobby Thomas played just once for us at Millwall in the League Cup when he and Dunnexwere outstanding.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:11 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:08 am
Should we have been more patient with Dan Ballard?
Wasn’t the rumor that he failed the medical?
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:31 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Can't remember Charlie, but I'll be following his career with interest, or at least for this season.
Definitely a top Championship player. Will he be a stand out at this level, in what might be a struggling side or will he be a major contributor to a Sunderland survival?
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:41 pm
by Zom Zom
He’s just scored for Coventry at Derby
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:50 am
by Woodleyclaret
Ekdal had a mare yesterday giving Richarlison far too much space for both goals and not tight enough on Johnson for his.It will be a steep learning curve but he seemed to lack pace too.
Is Bobby Thomas worth a bid now Beyer is injured again? We have plenty we could sweeten any deal with.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:59 am
by wilks_bfc
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:50 am
Ekdal had a mare yesterday giving Richarlison far too much space for both goals and not tight enough on Johnson for his.It will be a steep learning curve but he seemed to lack pace too.
Is Bobby Thomas worth a bid now Beyer is injured again? We have plenty we could sweeten any deal with.
What makes you think Thomas would fare any better than Ekdal or anybody else currently at the club?
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:12 am
by TsarBomba
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:50 am
Ekdal had a mare yesterday giving Richarlison far too much space for both goals and not tight enough on Johnson for his.It will be a steep learning curve but he seemed to lack pace too.
Is Bobby Thomas worth a bid now Beyer is injured again? We have plenty we could sweeten any deal with.
Thomas gave a penalty away for handball and then his defensive header in the 6 yard box was slotted away for Derby’s 3rd.
Chips in with a lot of goals and although it’s pleasing to see an Academy player doing well elsewhere, he’s not remotely better than defenders we currently have.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:16 am
by Ric_C
Not sure I'd leave Cov to go to the Blades at this moment in time
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:33 am
by warksclaret
On his day like yesterday, Richalison would make Van Dyke look suspect. Too much criticism re Ekdal yesterday. We know hes not the quickest, plus he is probably not the first choice, but there were a number of our players worse than him yesterday. I am certain Spurs would have made CJ look quite ordinary yesterday. There is a good footballing brain in Ekdal. I think after yesterday the club realise we need a mobile, imposing CH to probably come in on loan, but very happy to have Ekdal in the squad to step in. Just need to move on the deadwood like DElcroix and maybe evenloan out Beyer if close to fitness, though I have doubts we will see him in a Burnley shirt again
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:55 am
by Commy
Most of the Coventry fans on their board are happy to see him go. Quite a few are saying £8m is too much.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:13 pm
by dandeclaret
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:23 pm
by warksclaret
Not sure he is the answer but what he has going for him is:
-seems to stay injury free
-very good in the air, and attacks the ball well (we have lacked this quality since O'Shea left us)
-price seems reasonable
-he knows our club
-he is right footed
-Brentford appear keen and they have a good track record of buying in the Championship
As I say-not sure he is the answer but with Cov wanting to replace him, maybe a swap deal with Worrall, who lets face it is never going to start for us unless we get injuries. I should also say I see similarities between him and Tarks when he was at Brentford
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:30 pm
by Steddyman
I wonder if we put in a buy back clause? We would certainly get him at a discount given we no doubt have a sell on percentage that comes off the price. Not sure he is the profile we need to compete in the Premier League though
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:37 pm
by ashtonlongsider
Please no. He's a grafter and wholehearted but not sure he's at the level we need.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:38 pm
by boatshed bill
ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:37 pm
Please no. He's a grafter and wholehearted but not sure he's at the level we need.
Are WE at the level we need? Whoever "we" might be.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:18 pm
by ClaretTony
Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:08 am
Should we have been more patient with Dan Ballard?
Not sure what you mean by that. We were linked with him for sure, spoke to him I believe but it never reached the point of being a deal or him even having a medical.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:43 pm
by steve1264b
Thomas is 6ft 4ins 45 appearances, 5 goals, 7 yellows, 24 years old.
I don't think Coventry are trying to sell him.
Tarkowski 6ft 1 in, had 23 appearances before we signed that season 1 goal, 6 yellows, 1 red 23 years old
the season before 38, i goal, 8 yellows
Moneyball would say Thomas is a better prospect.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:22 pm
by Claretfanatic1982
steve1264b wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:43 pm
Moneyball would say Thomas is a better prospect.
So you think £8m is undervalued and an absolute bargain?
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:40 pm
by steve1264b
Did i say that?
What i said is via the modern metric of moneyball Thomas has better figures.
He was player of the year at Barrow at 18 years old in the 3rd division.
Regular at a team that just missed out on promotion.
I didn't know anything about Tarkowski and i will admit i haven't watched enough of Thomas to know how good he is.
But take away the name and look at the record blind its a good one.
Because we sold him (for 2 million wasn't it by the way) doesn't mean he isn't good enough for us now.
Is he better than Worrall or Ekdal is surely the only metric that matters?
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:28 pm
by Claretfanatic1982
steve1264b wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:40 pm
Did i say that?
What i said is via the modern metric of moneyball Thomas has better figures.
He was player of the year at Barrow at 18 years old in the 3rd division.
Regular at a team that just missed out on promotion.
I didn't know anything about Tarkowski and i will admit i haven't watched enough of Thomas to know how good he is.
But take away the name and look at the record blind its a good one.
Because we sold him (for 2 million wasn't it by the way) doesn't mean he isn't good enough for us now.
Is he better than Worrall or Ekdal is surely the only metric that matters?
I think you might be misunderstanding what moneyball is .
Moneyball is all about using data to find undervalued players.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:01 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Claretfanatic1982 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:28 pm
I think you might be misunderstanding what moneyball is .
Moneyball is all about using data to find undervalued players.
And higher up the thread he provided data, comparing Thomas with Tarks.
I’ve seen him have many excellent defensive performances for Coventry and with our current nightmare situation I’d be happy to have him in the squad and fighting for his place.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:03 pm
by Claretfanatic1982
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:01 pm
And higher up the thread he provided data, comparing Thomas with Tarks.
I’ve seen him have many excellent defensive performances for Coventry and with our current nightmare situation I’d be happy to have him in the squad and fighting for his place.
So , is Thomas undervalued at £8m ?
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:05 pm
by warksclaret
steve1264b wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:40 pm
Did i say that?
What i said is via the modern metric of moneyball Thomas has better figures.
He was player of the year at Barrow at 18 years old in the 3rd division.
Regular at a team that just missed out on promotion.
I didn't know anything about Tarkowski and i will admit i haven't watched enough of Thomas to know how good he is.
But take away the name and look at the record blind its a good one.
Because we sold him (for 2 million wasn't it by the way) doesn't mean he isn't good enough for us now.
Is he better than Worrall or Ekdal is surely the only metric that matters?
Doesn't have to be better than Worrall & Ekdal, but maybe more suited to the PL. But I would think it strange to have both Thomas and Worrall in an oversize squad, and as I mentioned earlier there could be a deal to be done with Cov and Worrall going the other way. Personally I think he may be more effective than Worrall when you are backs to the wall like we were at Spurs and will be in a few more games
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:06 pm
by Paddy1882
Can’t see us paying a fee for anyone now, any more additions will be loans or free transfers.
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:08 pm
by warksclaret
warksclaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:05 pm
Doesn't have to be better than Worrall & Ekdal, but maybe more suited to the PL. But I would think it strange to have both Thomas and Worrall in an oversize squad, and as I mentioned earlier there could be a deal to be done with Cov and Worrall going the other way. Personally I think he may be more effective than Worrall when you are backs to the wall like we were at Spurs and will be in a few more games. He would gives us something we have not had since Tarks/Mee ie someone who attacks a direct fee kick or corner with a very good goal scoring record
Re: Bobby Thomas
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:56 pm
by Mattster
You would assume we'd get Thomas at a discounted rate given you would hope we have a sell on clause. He'd probably be better than both Worrall and Ekdal in that central CB role and give us an attacking presence on corners too.
If we are going after him then presumably it's because he's the cheap option and we don't have much money left.