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THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:45 pm
by whiffa
First home game of the season, let's back the lads!
Madge is here for old time's sake - teams news incoming!
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:47 pm
by whiffa
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:47 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
I like the line up
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:47 pm
by morninbob
433, JBL for sonne, Les for laurant.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:48 pm
by whiffa
Our opponents today:
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:48 pm
by burnleymik
Back to what we did well in the Championship. Very happy with that. Come On!
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:49 pm
by daveisaclaret
Proper 11 that, well done Mr Parker. Big win today
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:50 pm
by ecc
SP showing flexibility.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:51 pm
by CoolClaret
-------Dubravka
Walker-Ekdal-Esteve-Hartman
-----Lesley-Cullen
JBL--Hannibal-Anthony
--------Foster
I think?
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:54 pm
by ksrclaret
No complaints with that team. Whether it’s enough is a different matter but hoping for a win.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:54 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:51 pm
-------Dubravka
Walker-Ekdal-Esteve-Hartman
-----Lesley-Cullen
JBL--Hannibal-Anthony
--------Foster
I think?
Physically that midfield should give Sunderland some real problems
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:55 pm
by ecc
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:51 pm
-------Dubravka
Walker-Ekdal-Esteve-Hartman
-----Lesley-Cullen
JBL--Hannibal-Anthony
--------Foster
I think?
Something like that.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
by Jmw
I think it will be 5 at the back still with JBL as RBW. Hope not but I think that’s the way he will go
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
by Goliath
Have we lost a league game with Edwards in the team?
I don't think we have but he's somehow found his way out of favour. Seems a bit odd.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:59 pm
by burnleymik
....or I suppose he could have just swapped JBL for Sonne and we still play the 5-back?
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:00 pm
by RVclaret
Tough game. Sunderland have spent a lot and spent really well. Glad we’ve matched their midfield with legs and physicality. That 11 is what i was hoping for except Tuanzebe for Ekdal, hopefully the latter has a good game.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:02 pm
by FCBurnley
Jmw wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
I think it will be 5 at the back still with JBL as RBW. Hope not but I think that’s the way he will go
We should never play 5 at the back at home and I don’t think we will today
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
by willsclarets
Goliath wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
Have we lost a league game with Edwards in the team?
I don't think we have but he's somehow found his way out of favour. Seems a bit odd.
One thing about Anthony is that he's unbelievably disciplined off the ball. Just speculation, but especially if we're 3 at the back he's just not defensively minded enough to play that wingback role. Even in a 4, Anthony would cover for Hartman and you'd be fine. Edwards on the other side? Not sure. It is a shame because he's a great watch and could score some important goals, but we know Parker is safety first and perhaps while we settle into the league he's just wanting him as an impact player
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
by RVclaret
People get a bit caught up with formations, and there seems to be a misconception ‘5 at the back’ is defensive. Last week we delivered one of the most attacking performances I’ve seen at a big club with ‘5 at the back’. Palace just won the FA Cup with ‘5 at the back’ every week. Very nice attacking team. Weird one.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:09 pm
by Procrastinate B
Much better.
Still think we’ll go five at the back, but much better.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:09 pm
by burnleymik
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
People get a bit caught up with formations, and there seems to be a misconception ‘5 at the back’ is defensive. Last week we delivered one of the most attacking performances I’ve seen at a big club with ‘5 at the back’. Palace just won the FA Cup with ‘5 at the back’ every week. Very nice attacking team. Weird one.
For me personally, I think it's about how uncomfortable our best defenders look in the 3. Esteve and Walker seemed to struggle and I think it exposes Ekhdal too. It's not about being defensive, it's about playing players in their strongest positions to get the best out of them.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:09 pm
by Goliath
willsclarets wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
One thing about Anthony is that he's unbelievably disciplined off the ball. Just speculation, but especially if we're 3 at the back he's just not defensively minded enough to play that wingback role. Even in a 4, Anthony would cover for Hartman and you'd be fine. Edwards on the other side? Not sure. It is a shame because he's a great watch and could score some important goals, but we know Parker is safety first and perhaps while we settle into the league he's just wanting him as an impact player
Agreed but we've been a better side with Edwards in it so I'm surprised Parker hasn't at least given him an opportunity before JBL
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:10 pm
by ecc
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
People get a bit caught up with formations, and there seems to be a misconception ‘5 at the back’ is defensive. Last week we delivered one of the most attacking performances I’ve seen at a big club with ‘5 at the back’. Palace just won the FA Cup with ‘5 at the back’ every week. Very nice attacking team. Weird one.
Fully agree with you, RVclaret. If the players are good enough it enables you to quickly switch from defence to attack and vice versa.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:19 pm
by GetIntoEm
Anyone tried the mash peas and gravy yet? Pie and peas is back!
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:19 pm
by Roosterbooster
Jmw wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
I think it will be 5 at the back still with JBL as RBW. Hope not but I think that’s the way he will go
He played there against Lazio. Also Josh Laurent ended up as a RCB against Lazio. So it looks like the "5 at the back" thing is a full time goer
But as people say, I don't think it's a rigid 5. Walker can play RCB or RB or RWB. Hartman can play LB or LWB. Anthony can drop into a LWB position if needs be. And Hannibal can play as AM, inside right or drop into a midfield 3
It'll be a versatile set up depending on the phase of the game
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:23 pm
by CoolClaret
Whatever it is, I like that XI... a lot!
UTC!
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:30 pm
by LincsWoldsClaret
The £5 pie was not quite 1 cm deep
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:32 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Afternoon All.
No conceding penalties to them & three points please!
Good to see Madge back.
COME ON UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CLARETS!!
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:33 pm
by KateR
4 at the back for me, more attacking intent, will see these changes throughout, depending on who we are playing and SP thoughts on attack or defense as the tactic of the day. Obviously more attacking today, which Sunderland will like as they will be a counterattacking team for most of the season, as they believe they can break quickly and have the attackers to score, which proved the case against WH, let's see how today plays out.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:36 pm
by jojomk1
No Broja even on the bench
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:38 pm
by jojomk1
Goliath wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
Have we lost a league game with Edwards in the team?
I don't think we have but he's somehow found his way out of favour. Seems a bit odd.
Edwards is a luxury at this level
JBL will offer more to the team in overall work rate and still has goals in him
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:42 pm
by manuelbenny
Surprised Ekdal is in again....
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:44 pm
by ecc
manuelbenny wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:42 pm
Surprised Ekdal is in again....
I'm not sure we have too many other options.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:45 pm
by willsclarets
I may or may not have said this before but, Foster to bag today!
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:48 pm
by Tribesmen
Afternoon all , just checking in here in Santorini , about 29c and the sun is out .
All set for kick off .
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:51 pm
by Frenchclaret
I couldn’t receive Clarets+ last week but this week I have just opened it and didn’t have to pay! Have conditions changed?
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:52 pm
by mkmel
KateR wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:33 pm
4 at the back for me, more attacking intent, will see these changes throughout, depending on who we are playing and SP thoughts on attack or defense as the tactic of the day. Obviously more attacking today, which Sunderland will like as they will be a counterattacking team for most of the season, as they believe they can break quickly and have the attackers to score, which proved the case against WH, let's see how today plays out.
They can't be that good in attack as they only managed to score 3 against West Ham
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:52 pm
by Goliath
jojomk1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:38 pm
Edwards is a luxury at this level
JBL will offer more to the team in overall work rate and still has goals in him
We haven't tried him. Bit harsh to come to a conclusion without even giving him the chance
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:56 pm
by derryclaret
Afternoon all, threatening rain here first we've seen in a couple of weeks, big game need a win to set us on our way. COYC!
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:59 pm
by jojomk1
Goliath wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:52 pm
We haven't tried him. Bit harsh to come to a conclusion without even giving him the chance
We saw in the Championship that he's short of pace and rarely tracks back and that is a minimum for this league
Would appear SP is not so keen on him starting
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:59 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
At last a banger of a tune to walk out to
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:01 pm
by Longsider
Come on yooooooooooou Clarets
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:02 pm
by morninbob
Back 5 JBL on the right.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:02 pm
by whiffa
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:59 pm
At last a banger of a tune to walk out to
Ecstasy of Gold by Ennio Morricone? Great song. Also looks like maybe new soundsystem in at the Turf at last?
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:04 pm
by ElectroClaret
Nice tribute to Willie Irvine.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:05 pm
by JR1882
Wolves 1 down.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:06 pm
by jojomk1
What a calamity at the back there
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:06 pm
by willsclarets
ooft should be 1 down there
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:06 pm
by ElectroClaret
Good save Dub.
Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:07 pm
by Venkys4eva
The sky commentary team are all w****kers listening to them all Sunderland had to do is turn up.
