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A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 8:37 pm
by Tufty
A bit of a pointless topic so apologies in advance...but the thought came to me today...what if we had domestic rules that stipulated that every club could only have 1 overseas player and the rest had to be a British Isles national (ie. Ireland included) ?
Would our interest be less piqued ? Would attendances be lower ? Would we be left unsatisfied and less passionate about supporting our club ? Would our national teams be performing poorer in international games ? Would we be happy or left feeling we are the poorer relation of Europe?
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 8:53 pm
by Bow
It would be rubbish.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 8:56 pm
by Tricky Trevor
That’s basically what we had until the 90s. The football was poorer but the excitement was the same and titles were spread around, which can only be an improvement.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:16 pm
by Fretters
My wife (who couldn't be less interested in football) recently announced that you should only be allowed to play for a football club if you were born in that town or city.
Jay Rod would be playing for us well into his sixties, I Reckon.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:22 pm
by ollieclarets8
Less money
Fewer people watching
Poorer quality
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:32 pm
by ClaretTony
Fretters wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:16 pm
My wife (who couldn't be less interested in football) recently announced that you should only be allowed to play for a football club if you were born in that town or city.
Jay Rod would be playing for us well into his sixties, I Reckon.
And Jay would be playing in a one man team
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:52 pm
by KellyClaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:32 pm
And Jay would be playing in a one man team
Harvey Barnes?
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:04 pm
by elwaclaret
Burnley Fotball Club has never just hired from Burnley… in fact the original idea of forming the team was to encourage weavers from Blackburn to move to the new cotton boomtown. One of the first mentions of the club in the newspapers was Burnley scouts being railroaded out of Dundee while scouting players they could pass of as economic migrants going into the mills/Marsden’s brewery etc while playing in the (pre-league amateurs only) FA Cup.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:05 pm
by billyhamilton82
Tufty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 8:37 pm
A bit of a pointless topic so apologies in advance...but the thought came to me today...what if we had domestic rules that stipulated that every club could only have 1 overseas player and the rest had to be a British Isles national (ie. Ireland included) ?
Would our interest be less piqued ? Would attendances be lower ? Would we be left unsatisfied and less passionate about supporting our club ? Would our national teams be performing poorer in international games ? Would we be happy or left feeling we are the poorer relation of Europe?
See 1980's football
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:52 am
by Fretters
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:32 pm
And Jay would be playing in a one man team
I might even get a game!
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 8:38 am
by Culmclaret
elwaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:04 pm
Burnley Fotball Club has never just hired from Burnley… in fact the original idea of forming the team was to encourage weavers from Blackburn to move to the new cotton boomtown. One of the first mentions of the club in the newspapers was Burnley scouts being railroaded out of Dundee while scouting players they could pass of as economic migrants going into the mills/Marsden’s brewery etc while playing in the (pre-league amateurs only) FA Cup.
There was a notable change in the 1884/85 season which saw an influx of Scottish players displacing the locals as Elwa mentioned …..one of whom was my great great great uncle who was relegated to the reserves as a result!
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:19 am
by ClaretTony
Fretters wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:52 am
I might even get a game!
I wouldn't
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:48 am
by gtclaret
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:48 am
by Shiptonsmother
I might be wrong but when they first started showing Italian football on c4 in the early 90s I’m sure they had an oversees player rule? I think you were allowed 3 oversees players in your team. Correct me if I’m wrong
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:49 am
by ClaretTony
Shiptonsmother wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:48 am
I might be wrong but when they first started showing Italian football on c4 in the early 90s I’m sure they had an oversees player rule? I think you were allowed 3 oversees players in your team. Correct me if I’m wrong
I think the same rules applied here
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:51 am
by gtclaret
Just did a search,I found Oliver Norwood and apparently Chris Eagles
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:49 pm
by RickyBobby
Would never happen. Clubs want as many foreign players as possible. It is good for clubs in europe as they can mop up world wide talent and can compete better in europe, how “good” the premier league is is based on how well english clubs do in european competitions. And it is good for all clubs for marketing. Look at the effect Son had with spurs. Foreign players bring in the tourists from the countries they are from.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:50 pm
by Fretters
gtclaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:51 am
Just did a search,I found Oliver Norwood and apparently Chris Eagles
Born in Burnley? Eagles was born in Hemel Hemstead.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:58 pm
by dsr
Fretters wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:16 pm
My wife (who couldn't be less interested in football) recently announced that you should only be allowed to play for a football club if you were born in that town or city.
Jay Rod would be playing for us well into his sixties, I Reckon.
A bit rough on someone born in Brierfield. Puts a blight on their England chances.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:03 pm
by sjb
Dom Telford, who scored a lot of goals for Newport and is now at Gateshead was born in Burnley, though he grew up in Clitheroe.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:03 pm
by mikeS
dsr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:58 pm
A bit rough on someone born in Brierfield. Puts a blight on their England chances.
Didn't harm Mike Phelan.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:02 am
by CnBtruntru
mikeS wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:03 pm
Didn't harm Mike Phelan.
Nelson born?
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 12:53 pm
by beeholeclaret
Fretters wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:16 pm
Jay Rod would be playing for us well into his sixties, I Reckon.
He would be up front in a 4-3-3 with Jack Whitham and Albert Cheesebrough. Both good players back in’t day.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:35 pm
by dsr
beeholeclaret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 12:53 pm
He would be up front in a 4-3-3 with Jack Whitham and Albert Cheesebrough. Both good players back in’t day.
Harvey Barnes would be up front.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:48 pm
by AfloatinClaret
Wasn't the Celtic European Cup side of 1967 all born/grew up within something like 30 miles of Glasgow?
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:25 pm
by Wokingclaret
Ashley Barns, hasn't he been adopted
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:43 pm
by gtclaret
Fretters wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:50 pm
Born in Burnley? Eagles was born in Hemel Hemstead.
I was surprised to see that,it's what it said
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:54 pm
by Enola Gay
Shiptonsmother wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:48 am
I might be wrong but when they first started showing Italian football on c4 in the early 90s I’m sure they had an oversees player rule? I think you were allowed 3 oversees players in your team. Correct me if I’m wrong
I'm not sure if that applied in domestic football; I think Liverpool played one of their 1980s Cup Finals with Steve McMahon as the only Englishman under UEFA rules.
It was definitely the case in European football after UEFA closed the loophole that allowed Welsh, Scottish and Irish players to be classed as British for European competititons. Once they were classed as non-English and limited to three-per-team there was a bit of an adjustment period for English teams, as Gary Walsh can testify...
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 5:56 pm
by warksclaret
Matty James Ollie Norwood
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:48 pm
by timshorts
There are only 178 maternity units in the UK according to ai. That's a bit restrictive. Hastings, for example does not have one. It's in St Leonards.
That said, it would probably mean lots of scousers and londeners moving back home so that their children were born in the right catchment area, so it has some advantages.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:43 am
by dsr
I could imagine a scouser desperately trying to get his wife home in time and not quite making it - so his son gets a place in Burtonwood Services FC.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:02 am
by Pickles
Paris v London would be tasty.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 2:55 pm
by karatekid
dsr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:58 pm
A bit rough on someone born in Brierfield. Puts a blight on their England chances.
Burnley&Pendle FC ?
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:29 pm
by dsr
karatekid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 03, 2025 2:55 pm
Burnley&Pendle FC ?
I believe the 1960 Championship team will be retrospectively named Burnley & the North East FC.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:34 pm
by dougcollins
timshorts wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:48 pm
There are only 178 maternity units in the UK according to ai. That's a bit restrictive. Hastings, for example does not have one. It's in St Leonards.
That said, it would probably mean lots of scousers and londeners moving back home so that their children were born in the right catchment area, so it has some advantages.
Is it true that mothers to be in Blackburn travel to Airedale GH, as they'd rather their kids be born in Yorkshire than Burnley..
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:26 pm
by karatekid
Around here you could be born in Burnley and die in Blackburn because of the maternity and A&E locations. Either way most people will be unhappy at either side of their life.
Blackburn fan——-place of birth , Burnley. I bet they never show their passport to anyone.
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:34 pm
by blackbulllad
If the rule was ever introduced the quality would nosedive. The Premier League's reputation is built on being the best of the best worldwide. Limiting clubs to one overseas player would turn it into a closed shop, more like the old First Division. Crowds would still turn up for the badge, but the spectacle would be nowhere near what we've gotten used to
Re: A British players Premier league.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:15 pm
by KellyClaret
warksclaret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 5:56 pm
Matty James Ollie Norwood
Matty James wasn't born in Burnley
