• Is anyone else feeling apathetic today?

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:07 am**

This question is not completely true but I cannot remember a game in recent years where I have felt hardly any enthusiasm on the morning of the match.

We are playing the current league champions and IMO the best team in the EPL by some distance at the moment. It's also my first live game this season. I watched the Spurs game and half of the Sunderland game on a stream. I watched the highlights of the Man Utd game and I haven't even seen the goals from the Derby game.

I felt more enthused during the Cotterrill years about going to the games-maybe I am a masochist?

It's really weird because on the face of it I should be looking forward so much to this game but I am just not. I am sick of the corrupt circus that is the EPL and everything that goes with it such as VAR, cheating, corporate businesses or nation states running football clubs etc?

If we scored a 95th minute winner today I will obviously be ecstatic and all of the above will be forgotten temporarily. I know everyone will feel different and that is cool. I am only trying to gauge if anyone feels similar to myself.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:12 am**

Felt that way for quite a few two years ago.

Looking forward to this one though.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:19 am**

I don't think we've much chance of winning, a point would be superb.
You've got to give it a bash, though.

Legendary games are thus created....

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:21 am**

No, looking forward to going to the game.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:28 am**

Not kicked a ball yet. Cheers up

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:28 am**

Liverpool are an incredible team.Far and away the best team in the league last season and this summer they have spent hundreds of millions strengthening their squad.We do not throw in the towel.We give our all.Remember season 2016/17. Stats Burnley 18 per cent Liverpool 82 per cent Result Burnley 2 Liverpool 0

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:32 am**

Can’t see anything but a pummelling coming our way.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:38 am**

Murger wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:32 am
Can’t see anything but a pummelling coming our way.

There's nothing like an optimist!

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:42 am**

Quite the reverse.
We have a real chance .

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:42 am**

There's probably two games in the PL when I head for TM pretty much knowing we're gonna lose - this one and City.

You can only hope.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:43 am**

That's the difference between going to a game hoping to win and going to a game expecting to lose.

I expect us to lose today. And it's a Sunday so I can't make a day of it. Very few redeeming features before the game.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:45 am**

Feeling apathetic and thinking we'll get beat are two different things

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:51 am**

The apathy comes from knowing that even if we nearly pulled something off, var would "fix it".

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:51 am**

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:42 am
There's probably two games in the PL when I head for TM pretty much knowing we're gonna lose - this one and City.

You can only hope.

2016

Burnley 2 - 0 Liverpool

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:55 am**

These games are what it’s all about. We’re likely going to lose, it’s highly probable we’re going to be soundly beaten, but I’d rather be playing Liverpool at home in the Prem than any Championship fixture.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:55 am**

Weirdly we’ve always been pretty competitive against Liverpool at home. We haven’t got too many results, except that 2-0, I don’t think, but generally we’ve always been in games, even under VK. With Luis, Cullen and Ugochukwu we’ve got a midfield which can compete, and a team that will graft, so I’m looking forward to it and holding some semi delusional optimism of a point. If anything I’m hoping for a better defensive performance than in the two away games.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:01 am**

i really don't know how to respond to the op.

i thought all of the inadequacy in footy was the cheating, the disparity, the money the politics and wayne rooney.

i had no idea it was about dreading our next match.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:03 am**

Liverpool are relatively vulnerable in defence this season (conceded two against Bournemouth and Newcastle) so it's probably a good time to play them. Looking forward to it personally.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:05 am**

Slot will be sulking in the style of other defeated Mickey mousers

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:06 am**

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:51 am
2016

Burnley 2 - 0 Liverpool

This.

Come on you Clarets!

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:14 am**

The majority of the Premier League won't win games against Liverpool this year. Today's game doesn't just measure our standing against Liverpool but against these other teams too. The least we can do is try our best because every other team will do the same hoping, not expecting, a result.

UTC

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:26 am**

Just hoping we get through the day without VAR being the main talking point…………

But that aside it’s a day for Claret legends to be made………Robbie Blake’esque!

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:26 am**

The weather may play a part today, especially second half.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:43 am**

Unlike previous seasons, they can be got at, there’s a vulnerability to them that comes with bedding in the new fullbacks and Konates loss of form. Stopping them up the other end though is a different ball game.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:49 am**

It's the hope that kills you.
I'm normally an optimistic, but I can't help the feeling of resignation. On holiday with family in NI, so I will be incommunicado with my fingers crossed in my pocket.

Today, as in all big games, is about the performance not the result. We've shown the good and the bad against Spurs and Man U, Today we need to get ugly.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:51 am**

With the Ref & Var on their side, we dont need any of our players to do anything rash and get sent off - Liverpool dont need us to loose a man to help them win the game.
On the plus side…..lets give it a good go, and get behind our team! UTC

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:54 am**

We've already conceded over a third of last season's total goals. We are doomed!

On the other hand, all games are winnable too.

UTC

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:56 am**

I hope manager and players haven’t woken up with the same feeling this morning!

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:56 am**

Jimmymaccer wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:26 am
Just hoping we get through the day without VAR being the main talking point…………

But that aside it’s a day for Claret legends to be made………Robbie Blake’esque!

Me too. Had enough of VAR.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:01 am**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:56 am
I hope manager and players haven’t woken up with the same feeling this morning!

Well, Jaidon Anthony has captained Salah and benched Esteve in his FPL team!

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:07 am**

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:51 am
2016

Burnley 2 - 0 Liverpool

With just 18% possession.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:24 am**

Essentially it’s a free hit….

I’d love to catch them with a late left hook tho…

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:26 am**

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:51 am
2016

Burnley 2 - 0 Liverpool

“Liverpool failed to build on their opening weekend win over Arsenal as they slumped to a miserable 2-0 defeat at Premier League new boys Burnley.
First-half goals from Sam Vokes and Andre Gray ensured the Clarets celebrated their first league win over the Reds since 1974”.

I woz there. UTC

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:27 am**

Sproggy wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:43 am
That's the difference between going to a game hoping to win and going to a game expecting to lose.

They are NOT mutually exclusive though .

I’m feeling both of those things right now…

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:31 am**

“Re: Is anyone else feeling apathetic today?”

The good news, for you, is that tomorrow’s meeting of the Apathy Society has been cancelled!

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:36 am**

No, like every match, I am eagerly awaiting the game. Nothing beats free food, beer, and the chance of an upset.
The misery on this board is stifling, why support a club if your first instinct is negative?
Enjoy the day talk to random people, listen to the crowd there are always colourful characters giving their views
Claude Opus 4.1

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:39 am**

jjclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:31 am

The good news, for you, is that tomorrow’s meeting of the Apathy Society has been cancelled!

Nobody's bothered. .....

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:39 am**

Most of our games are premier league, but I tend to view games against the top 4 as a level above. It's unlikely we will ever play in the champions league, so it's great to have the opportunity to play teams who do.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:58 am**

Massive tests for the team and all the individuals today. Great first game for Luis.
I want to see how we try to play today, and how we end up playing, as the match unfolds. Our concentration levels, and if we are able to limit individual mistakes against the strongest team in the league.
I also want to try to see if we can maintain the enthusiasm required till the final whistle. We could gain so much confidence from this game going forward.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:59 am**

IWOODLOVETT wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:26 am
“Liverpool failed to build on their opening weekend win over Arsenal as they slumped to a miserable 2-0 defeat at Premier League new boys Burnley.
First-half goals from Sam Vokes and Andre Gray ensured the Clarets celebrated their first league win over the Reds since 1974”.

I woz there. UTC

So was I

The result was soured though by some Scousers digging up dirt on Andre Gray's past and using it to discredit him.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:00 am**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:27 am
They are NOT mutually exclusive though .

I’m feeling both of those things right now…

That is true, and in 50 odd years of going to games it’s only these recent forays into the Premier League where the “expecting to lose” has become a thing.

It can all change with a couple of early Burnley goals though…..

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:05 am**

Anonymous Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:07 am
This question is not completely true but I cannot remember a game in recent years where I have felt hardly any enthusiasm on the morning of the match.

We are playing the current league champions and IMO the best team in the EPL by some distance at the moment. It's also my first live game this season. I watched the Spurs game and half of the Sunderland game on a stream. I watched the highlights of the Man Utd game and I haven't even seen the goals from the Derby game.

I felt more enthused during the Cotterrill years about going to the games-maybe I am a masochist? It's really weird because on the face of it I should be looking forward so much to this game but I am just not. I am sick of the corrupt circus that is the EPL and everything that goes with it such as VAR, cheating, corporate businesses or nation states running football clubs etc?

If we scored a 95th minute winner today I will obviously be ecstatic and all of the above will be forgotten temporarily. I know everyone will feel different and that is cool. I am only trying to gauge if anyone feels similar to myself.

Cheer up , all we need is Love , Physicality and Heavy Rain

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:06 am**

Must be honest to feeling a little nonplussed. Still got a bitter taste from OT and I don't expect anything different today. Just sub Bruno for Virgil to ref the match. I think there's a fine line. I accept their both captains and have been given licence be spokesman for the team but its incessant. All I ask for is a level playing field on the field and imo it's far from equal.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:11 am**

Thing is it’s not a novelty , it’s Sunday afternoon and it’s on tv etc and we’re facing one of the very best teams in the world . However it’s our first “ super club “ home game and I’m looking forward to it . We’re gradually putting in the jigsaw pieces of our side and hopefully we can make a game of it and who knows ?

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:12 am**

More hope than expectation. But although Liverpool are a good side, they're not as good as the Man City sides of the past few 5-0 defeats.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:20 am**

Apathetic?

These are the games we fought hard last season to get back on our fixture list.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:41 am**

Whatever happens today won't change the outcome of the season.

However, we want our lads to follow their instructions, work their socks off and do their best.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:43 am**

Can't say I do OP. Unexpectant, yes. Apathetic, no.

But football is full of surprises. UTC.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:44 am**

For me, I hope we don’t get battered, I hope we play well even if we lose, I hope driving down the A1 tonight I am still a proud Burnley supporter if not will still be back next week with similar hopes UTC

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:51 am**

Looking forward to the game. Nothing to lose really so let’s give it a real go !