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Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:01 pm
by Spijed
The promoted sides are making a far better fist of it than in the last two seasons so far.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:02 pm
by agreenwood
Jinxed it again Spijed.
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Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:07 pm
by ollieclarets8
Wolves are terrible so you expected Leeds to win that one.
Leeds have had a far easier starting fixture list than us.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:00 pm
by Spijed
When was the last time non of the promoted sides were in the bottom three after five matches?
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:03 pm
by RVclaret
Spijed wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:00 pm
When was the last time non of the promoted sides were in the bottom three after five matches?
17/18
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:46 pm
by ElectroClaret
Think most Clarets fans would have taken our current position at this stage in the season at the start.
Just got to keep it going.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:53 pm
by Commy
We had the same number of points last time but a worse goal difference. We were higher up the league though. We had also just drawn 1-1 at Forest in our fifth game.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:56 pm
by CoolClaret
Commy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:53 pm
We had the same number of points last time but a worse goal difference. We were higher up the league though. We had also just drawn 1-1 at Forest in our fifth game.
Last time it took us 7 matches to get to 4 points, then 14 matches to get to 7.
We were basically just making up the numbers - we were utter crap.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:59 pm
by Rileybobs
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:56 pm
Last time it took us 7 matches to get to 4 points, then 14 matches to get to 7.
We were basically just making up the numbers - we were utter crap.
Even had we lost in the dying stages again today, which I’m sure most were fearing, there was so much more to get behind. A group of players on the same wavelength with tremendous work rate, ability on and off the ball, and clearly a game plan.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:01 am
by Bin Ont Turf
We are bottom of that particular pile, although we should have two more points.
I like what I've seen so far though, and think we have at least a chance of staying up.
Burnley FC is forever.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:03 am
by Commy
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:56 pm
Last time it took us 7 matches to get to 4 points, then 14 matches to get to 7.
We were basically just making up the numbers - we were utter crap.
Sorry, they put the Luton Town match in but I forgot that we played that later.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:08 am
by CoolClaret
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:59 pm
Even had we lost in the dying stages again today, which I’m sure most were fearing, there was so much more to get behind. A group of players on the same wavelength with tremendous work rate, ability on and off the ball, and clearly a game plan.
Precisely that, building a bit of a siege atmosphere at times and as you say, giving us something to get behind.
Last time out was all about brand VK, whilst we all had to endure barely even competing in all but what, 10 games or so?
We just need to keep doing what we're doing, ignore the noise and lazy comments that will get thrown our way and just keep bloody battling. UTC.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:13 am
by Bullabill
Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:01 am
We are bottom of that particular pile, although we should have two more points.
That's a Wilder claim than most.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 5:58 am
by CaptainClaret
Think a little bit of luck of the draw with timing/fixtures can make a big difference over the course of a season, e.g. if you get to play an out-of-sorts Wolves or West Ham at a time when confidence is low and prior to a change in form (normally due to a managerial change) then it gets points on the board and gives your own squad/fans a huge boost in belief.
Not to belittle the performances either of Sunderland or Leeds who have competitive squads (with some strong recruitment) and will both be relatively tough places for teams to visit. Credit to both sides.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:18 am
by agreenwood
CaptainClaret wrote: ↑Sun Sep 21, 2025 5:58 am
Think a little bit of luck of the draw with timing/fixtures can make a big difference over the course of a season, e.g. if you get to play an out-of-sorts Wolves or West Ham at a time when confidence is low and prior to a change in form (normally due to a managerial change) then it gets points on the board and gives your own squad/fans a huge boost in belief.
Not to belittle the performances either of Sunderland or Leeds who have competitive squads (with some strong recruitment) and will both be relatively tough places for teams to visit. Credit to both sides.
Agree with this. It’s a shame we’ve not played against any of the crisis clubs so far.
I suspect both the current West Ham & Wolves managers might be different by the time we face them.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:46 am
by Firthy
Would be even better it it wasn't for two stupid penalties.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 9:02 am
by Ric_C
Teams we could potentially finish above:
Leeds, Sunderland, Brentford, Wolves, West Ham, Forest (not sure about Ange)
Teams who are weaker than last season:
Villa, Newcastle
I think the potential to pickup points is greater than last season, as a few of the bigger clubs are not as good.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 9:55 am
by claretspice
I'm not sure at present we are doing better than expected. I'd say that 4 points at this stage is about what you'd have been anticipating - and whilst is good to see us have a clear identity and be competitive, i expected that from a Parker team.
It certainly could be worse, because neither of the games we've taken points from have gone entirely our own way, but equally it could be better (given, in particular, that United have been no more than a mid table side over the past few years and we even managed a point there under Kompany.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 10:09 am
by Conroy92
My prediction at the start of this season (and we'll see if it still holds at the end of the season) would be that Sunderland and ourselves would stop up with Leeds being relegated.
There's a couple of teams in the prem who have been circling the drain for a while and have only been saved by extremely naive sides coming into the division.
Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 10:11 am
by Woodleyclaret
A point at City and an away win at Villa will set up up nicely for 3 points v DL