Do you think Pace will give Parker time to try and turn it around or get someone else in as he's had chances at other clubs in the Premier league and not done well...

I would think and hope that Alan would give SP time. I would expect he gets the same that VK got with another chance to get us back up if we do get relegated again. Unless a big club comes in for him. That is what I would expect. We are not Forest or West Ham.

Parker deserves the season and the start of next season if (when) we drop.

He’s earned that.

Pace will not sack Parker, even if we go down. We're not that kind of club and they've already shown they're not that kind of owners and rightly so. If we're struggling or we go down he's shown he's the right person to get us back up. Carry on Scotty!

What is he supposed to be turning around?

If you can realistically go through this seasons results and tell me where you would have expected to have done better?

Tottenham
Sunderland
United
Liverpool
Forest
City
Villa.

Ahhh yes, a change of manager would likley see us get results in these fixtures eh?

Hope not, we’ll need the compensation money from Real Madrid next summer after we’ve been relegated if VK is anything to go by.

Conroy92 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:33 pm

What is he supposed to be turning around?

If you can realistically go through this seasons results and tell me where you would have expected to have done better?

Tottenham
Sunderland
United
Liverpool
Forest
City
Villa.

Ahhh yes, a change of manager would likley see us get results in these fixtures eh?

No onelse needs to say anything other than the above. Nailed it.

He has to be given time - we only need look back to last season to see the improvements made, as the season progressed.

From what we’ve seen so far, I’m much more comfortable with where we are now than where we were at the same point under Kompany and this despite very similar records.

Parker has more than earned this season and come what may, the next one too.

We struggled early on last season whilst the squad learned the new style/system. I'm assuming it's similar this season.

I don't see that a change of manager makes any sense for a while yet, unless we lose every game till December.

I think the problem is if we go down we change formation again, we lose the better performers of the season and the ones on the ‘premier league’ contracts and it’s another re build hard to get anything regular going Laurent was a good performer last year and now he’s playing centre back next to ekdal

There are so many things I would want to see at Burnley Football Club ahead of sacking our manager. Changing the manager hasn’t even entered my thinking.

You're right Conroy , I thought we played ok at Spurs - 2nd half against Utd - defended well against Liverpool and looked ok for 60 minutes against City . My only criticism is playing 5 at the back against Cardiff .

Cardiff for me really backfired-another round in the League Cup would have allowed more game time for Broja, Humphreys, Tuanzebe, Edwards, maybe even Roberts and a few more, whilst keeping motivation high in the club. All it needed was to have some of the first team on the bench

Don't blame the manager. Surely the problem is having to dismantle on relegation from, and then rebuilding on return to the PL.
We have some good young players, perhaps giving them a bit more time together might be a better idea than changing manager and scrapping the good work that's been done.

I hope not but it does feel like we are starting with that feeling of it all falling apart again. We need a win in the next 2 or it's going to turn messy.

Some people sound quite new to football. It'll come down to results. If we lost the next four, fans would be calling for his head. Lose the next 6 or 7 and Pace will sack him.

Hopefully none of that happens, I really hope it doesn't. But if it does, let's not pretend that isn't how it plays out in the real world.

Pace will sack him if results don't improve. Be in no doubt about that.

We heard this rubbish at the start of last season....give him time.
Parker must stay on for this season and into the next, depending how we start in the championship.

Of course Parker should stay. Absurd to be thinking otherwise.

Pace is too busy changing the kit colours and the badge to think about changing the manager.

Not much surprises me anymore in football, anything can happen......but stick with him would be my decision.

Before a ball was kicked I had us down as finishing bottom 2, why get rid of the guy who got us to 100 points in the league we will likely be playing in next season ? He should get the same grace that Dyche and VK got (and I mistakenly jumped on him early last season but he's changed my opinion)

Exeterclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 1:07 pm

Pace will sack him if results don't improve. Be in no doubt about that.

I'd be most surprised if that was to happen.
AP is no fool. He knows as well as anyone now how hard the step up from the Championship is and would
already have factored in an immediate relegation.

As others have said above, a different manager
wouldn't have changed a thing, nor would a change help going forward.

Don’t think this will even be a consideration at present. If we get further into the season and the record is like VKs I’m not so sure they will be too sentimental about it if the season is still salvageable. The club comes before the manager but Parker needs a fair crack of the whip.

The question should be “ is Scott doing the best with the resources he has ? “
If the answer is no then he should be worried.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 1:29 pm

Before a ball was kicked I had us down as finishing bottom 2, why get rid of the guy who got us to 100 points in the league we will likely be playing in next season ? He should get the same grace that Dyche and VK got (and I mistakenly jumped on him early last season but he's changed my opinion)

I'm in the same boat as you. I didn't want him as manager and thought the early season stuff last year was dire but I think since then he has happily proved plenty of us wrong.

I think and hope SP will be here for the long run irregardless of which division we're in next season. He's done an outstanding job thus far. I think one of the difficulties he's got is the size of the squad, it's bloated and didn't get trimmed down enough in the last window.

I think Pace will listen to players and staff before he listens to fans, (we are slightly fickle!). If they are saying they are losing faith, maybe things will change, otherwise I don't see any reason to do anything drastic at this stage.

I think it all depends.

If Parker does well, makes sensible decisions, and we go down narrowly, then he should get a chance to get us back up.

Conversely, if he has a stinker, refuses to adapt, and continues playing players out of position, or players who aren’t as talented as others, etc, and if relegation then looks highly probable, then he probably should be gone by Christmas.

The question was about what Pace will do - I suspect the above logic, but with a small chance of a more knee jerk reaction to try to gamble on a change keeping us up.

Turn what around?

ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 1:54 pm

I think and hope SP will be here for the long run irregardless of which division we're in next season. He's done an outstanding job thus far. I think one of the difficulties he's got is the size of the squad, it's bloated and didn't get trimmed down enough in the last window.

“Irregardless” now that’s a word and a spelling I haven’t seen written for a long time.

Definitely give him more time. If we brought Pep in could he set us up to be more productive with our current players?

Worth noting, Parker hasn't changed at all. He's exactly the same guy as last year and the five years before that. He puts you almost unerringly where your wage bill suggests you should be. Last year that was in the top two. Now it's in the bottom three.

He's like the perfect barometer for a club's wealth in the context of their level. No point pretending he's more than that when he holds all the cards, or that he's to blame when he doesn't. More than anyone, he gives you precisely what you pay for.

As I have always said, if a manager takes us up he deserves the full season to try and keep us up, if he doesn’t then he deserves a shot at getting us back up.

Continuity and the bad experience of relegation worked in Dyches favour the 2nd time around.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:00 pm

As I have always said, if a manager takes us up he deserves the full season to try and keep us up, if he doesn’t then he deserves a shot at getting us back up.

Continuity and the bad experience of relegation worked in Dyches favour the 2nd time around.

I totally agree.
I'm pretty much resigned to relegation this season and I hope, this being the case, that SP can keep the best part of the squad he's built and get another go at promotion.

The year is 2034. Jack Cork is being backed by Burnley fans to have a good go at keeping us up this time, as long as he can get Foster to show his best form.

Conroy92 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:33 pm

What is he supposed to be turning around?

If you can realistically go through this seasons results and tell me where you would have expected to have done better?

Tottenham
Sunderland
United
Liverpool
Forest
City
Villa.

Ahhh yes, a change of manager would likley see us get results in these fixtures eh?

Couldn't agree more, Conroy92. Any points from any other game other than Sunderland and Forest would have been an absolute bonus. The only game I would have hoped/expected to have won was against Sunderland and, guess what, we won that one!

Absolutely bonkers that people are even debating this.

There’s some truth in the stats that mental health issues have increased in this country.

We need to try to end this cycle of up, down, up, down and a big squad turnover every year.

The board have to ask themselves is there anyone available who;
A. Could do better with this squad,
B. Is available/affordable,
C. Could be tempted to Burnley?

(Obviously there is no guarantee of A.)

If there is, and we are in the same position at the end of November, then the board should be considering it. Given the current gulf between PL and Championship and the recent record of promoted teams being relegated, staying up one season could result in a sustained period back in the top flight.

Harsh on Parker, of course but let's be honest, if he had us flying and it led to him receiving a better offer, he'd no doubt be off.

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 5:47 pm

Absolutely bonkers that people are even debating this.

There’s some truth in the stats that mental health issues have increased in this country.

Bonkers is a polite term for it.

If people were expecting results to be much different to this at this point, after seeing the fixture list, or our points tally much higher, I just don’t know what must go through their minds. Crazy times.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 5:55 pm

Bonkers is a polite term for it.

If people were expecting results to be much different to this at this point, after seeing the fixture list, or our points tally much higher, I just don’t know what must go through their minds. Crazy times.

I’d say there’s merit to the discussion but like most things it’s how bad things would have to get. No managerial position anywhere is 100% safe things are no different here. But most sensible people probably realise we are a long way off that happening if it does happen.

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 11:42 am

Do you think Pace will give Parker time to try and turn it around or get someone else in as he's had chances at other clubs in the Premier league and not done well...

Is this for real?

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:56 pm

Cardiff for me really backfired-another round in the League Cup would have allowed more game time for Broja, Humphreys, Tuanzebe, Edwards, maybe even Roberts and a few more, whilst keeping motivation high in the club. All it needed was to have some of the first team on the bench

If it's 'Three strikes and you're out' that was definitely one.

He should be given time and if we do go down a fair chance to try and get us back up. For what it’s worth I think there should be a window in which you can change your manager, summer up to first game of the season and January a bit like transfers.

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 5:47 pm

Absolutely bonkers that people are even debating this.

There’s some truth in the stats that mental health issues have increased in this country.

Reflecting the hate-algorithms and trolls/attention seekers that use them to sway opinion. Always so reactionary, with little to no room for any semblance of nuance or critical thought.

If we're going down with a whimper i don't think Pace would hesitate. Pretty naive to think otherwise.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:33 pm

If we're going down with a whimper i don't think Pace would hesitate. Pretty naive to think otherwise.

How are we going down with a wimper? We've generally played pretty well.

Picking up loads of points with this fixturing was never going to happen.

It's about being realistic

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:50 pm

How are we going down with a wimper? We've generally played pretty well.

Picking up loads of points with this fixturing was never going to happen.

It's about being realistic

The ability of people on here to get themselves worked up over something that was never said in the first place is amazing. The poster you quoted said IF we're going down with a whimper, not that we are.

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 06, 2025 11:42 am

Do you think Pace will give Parker time to try and turn it around or get someone else in as he's had chances at other clubs in the Premier league and not done well...

You say that Parker has had chances at other clubs in the PL prior to being appointed Burnley boss. He only managed 2 clubs in the PL, Fulham and Bournemouth and his stint at Bournemouth lasted only 4 games.

He lost his three best players at the start of the season and accordingly had to re-construct the defence whilst facing five European qualifiers whilst at the same time losing his top scorer.

The big concern is Broja. We need a forward who knows where the net is and by the sound of it he is way off it.

The big bonus has been Dubravka who has been up there with Tom and Popey.