Hartman

[TopCat]

Came on late for the Netherlands last night.

[aggi]

Weghorst started for them which surprised me a bit.

[gandhisflipflop]

They are a long way from the likes of

Overmars
Guillit
Van basten
Bergkamp
De boer brothers

[Quickenthetempo]

They are a long way from the likes of

Overmars
Guillit
Van basten
Bergkamp
De boer brothers

So are all teams

[gandhisflipflop]

So are all teams

Good point. For me it just doesn’t feel the same anymore when the likes of Brazil, Argentina (to a lesser degree), Netherlands, Italy etc play. I enjoyed football a lot more 20 years ago.

[Burnley1989]

Good point. For me it just doesn’t feel the same anymore when the likes of Brazil, Argentina (to a lesser degree), Netherlands, Italy etc play. I enjoyed football a lot more 20 years ago.

I agree, I couldnt tell you who 90% of these teams players play for at club level and I used to know all the top national teams, especially Spain, Germany, Italy, Holland, England, Brazil.

Probably because I dont watch any champions league football, and very little football in general. I also stopped collecting football stickers a long time ago

[wilks_bfc]

Good point. For me it just doesn’t feel the same anymore when the likes of Brazil, Argentina (to a lesser degree), Netherlands, Italy etc play. I enjoyed football a lot more 20 years ago.

The thing was, we only really got to see those types of players play every 2 or 4 years at the Euros or World Cup and they were relatively “unknown”

Now we see them play very week and rarely surprised by a standout performance

[daveisaclaret]

Isn't it just that we used to be children and now we're adults?

[ollieclarets8]

Good point. For me it just doesn’t feel the same anymore when the likes of Brazil, Argentina (to a lesser degree), Netherlands, Italy etc play. I enjoyed football a lot more 20 years ago.

I said a similar thing a bit back about club football and the Premier League. The Premier League for me was far more exciting in the 90s. And where you had only the Champions in the Champions League. Wenger and Fergie arguing on the touchline. Football certainly doesn't have that same spark.

[Burnley1989]

Isn't it just that we used to be children and now we're adults?

I'd say so in my case, I was football obsessed until I was about 14. I only watch Burnley now, and I'll be honest, I dont even recognise half of our team anymore, thankfully my daughter knows who they all are

[claretonthecoast1882]

I agree, I couldnt tell you who 90% of these teams players play for at club level and I used to know all the top national teams, especially Spain, Germany, Italy, Holland, England, Brazil.

Probably because I dont watch any champions league football, and very little football in general. I also stopped collecting football stickers a long time ago

Got any swops ?

[Burnley1989]

Got any swops ?

Sticker number 1, the Premier League Shiney, got to be worth 5 stickers that?

[ecc]

Isn't it just that we used to be children and now we're adults?

I think that's got a lot to do with it, daveisaclaret.

Re. the Dutch I was lucky enough to see (on TV) their greatest ever teams in the seventies. They were never going to surpass that era.

That said, the 1988 team was special and 1998 too.

I still feel proud we have lads like Hartman playing for the Netherlands.

[basil6345789]

Dan - Instant Replay

[dandeclaret]

Isn't it just that we used to be children and now we're adults?

As somebody once said

Whilst we're living, The dreams we had as children fade away,,,,,,,

[Claret86]

Good point. For me it just doesn’t feel the same anymore when the likes of Brazil, Argentina (to a lesser degree), Netherlands, Italy etc play. I enjoyed football a lot more 20 years ago.

Im exactly the same, although i wonder how much of it is im nearly 40 and everything seems better 'back in'th day.'

[Goliath]

I think it's partially true, the players we used to see when we saw international tournaments and big European tournaments were the likes of Baggio, Del Piero, Ronaldo, Weah, Zidane, Totti etc. I'm not sure players of that caliber exist much anymore, there's much less flair around.

There was also way less tv exposure. There's definitely a case of less is more.

[Falcon]

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be

[Conroysleftfoot]

I think that's got a lot to do with it, daveisaclaret.

Re. the Dutch I was lucky enough to see (on TV) their greatest ever teams in the seventies. They were never going to surpass that era.

That said, the 1988 team was special and 1998 too.

I still feel proud we have lads like Hartman playing for the Netherlands.

The Cruyff turn in the '74 World Cup.

[equinox]

Re. the Dutch I was lucky enough to see (on TV) their greatest ever teams in the seventies. They were never going to surpass that era.

Those great teams that never won anything, those you mean?

[mdd2]

They are a long way from the likes of

Overmars
Guillit
Van basten
Bergkamp
De boer brothers

And Van Der Kerkhof brothers Willy and Rene not forgetting Johan Cruyff
Members of the best WC team never to win the trophy IMO

[summitclaret]

Back to OP. Well done Quincy.

[dougcollins]

Isn't it just that we used to be children and now we're adults?

There are adults on here?

[ecc]

Those great teams that never won anything, those you mean?

And there he is.

[distortiondave]

There are adults on here?

I'm supposed to be an adult but I think I'm actually just addled.