No I’ve not been out of town buying fruit but an interesting development at Salford City FC where the fans have voted to ditch red and return to their primary shirt colour of orange.

Over 77% were in favour.


https://www.salfordcityfc.co.uk/news/20 ... ur-change/

Consulting on how they feel about the current badge as well

Good. Wrong decision to change to red and should never have been allowed to happen. Ego-driven, trying to create a mini-Man United. Even putting heritage to one side, orange looks way better and is certainly more identifiable. Neville and co have done the right thing by being transparent, holding their hands up, and involving supporters.

Arguably some parallels with Pace turning the Clarets into the Purples and changing the badge, which there doesn't seem to be much kickback from fans about which I find surprising.

I suppose with us it is still arguably Claret. If you look over our historical shirts we've had all different shades from plum to a reddy pink.

And the badge is still the old badge, just monochrome. A change yes, but not as drastic as Salford's was.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:35 pm

Neville and co have done the right thing by being transparent, holding their hands up, and involving supporters.

Not sure when they changed to red but Neville & Co (and Co is now Beckham) have no option but to consult.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:47 pm

Not sure when they changed to red but Neville & Co (and Co is now Beckham) have no option but to consult.

They changed to red when Lim and the Class of '92 took over. There's a decent episode of This Is Salford on YouTube where Beckham is in a meeting talking about how it was a mistake to change from orange, and that he knows from choosing pink for Miami how important a more uncommon, striking colour can be for branding. And he's spot on. Especially when that colour is traditional, as it is with Salford. I have no skin in the game at all but hope they change the badge too.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:51 pm

They changed to red when Lim and the Class of '92 took over. There's a decent episode of This Is Salford on YouTube where Beckham is in a meeting talking about how it was a mistake to change from orange, and that he knows from choosing pink for Miami how important a more uncommon, striking colour can be for branding. And he's spot on. Especially when that colour is traditional, as it is with Salford. I have no skin in the game at all but hope they change the badge too.

I wondered how long it had been, no surprise then that it was when the Class of 92 became involved. Good to see them go back as it was with Cardiff when the Tan changed their colours from blue to red and even installed red seats in the stadium extension (the red seats are still there).

Possibly a sign of these divisive times, and potentially a far bigger slap in the former United boys faces than they (or many of the fans realise).

The Orange orders of Salford, Oldham and Manchester were the first to cross the Irish Sea after Colonel Stanley’s regiment, First Lancashire Militia, returned to Manchester from a tour of Ireland in 1799. The Orange Yeomanry acted as the areas police for many years, most famously at the Peterloo massacre but also in patrolling the slum areas of Irish Catholic immigrants… the biggest Catholic football club being Newton Heath, who became Manchester United.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:02 pm

I wondered how long it had been, no surprise then that it was when the Class of 92 became involved. Good to see them go back as it was with Cardiff when the Tan changed their colours from blue to red and even installed red seats in the stadium extension (the red seats are still there).

I can't think of a successful colour change - it always feels tacky at best. Interested to hear if anyone can suggest one. I'm thinking possibly Luton a few years ago when they had a poll to decide which was the primary colour - white or orange but both of those are traditional colours for Luton.

Bayern Munich no longer feature blue on home kits in line with the wishes of supporters who think it's too close to 1860's sky blue.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:08 pm

I can't think of a successful colour change - it always feels tacky at best. Interested to hear if anyone can suggest one. I'm thinking possibly Luton a few years ago when they had a poll to decide which was the primary colour - white or orange but both of those are traditional colours for Luton.

Bayern Munich no longer feature blue on home kits in line with the wishes of supporters who think it's too close to 1860's sky blue.

Leeds United’s switch to an all white kit was successful in the 60s.

Those red seats at Cardiff look absolutely ridiculous, especially as they're back to playing in blue.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:45 pm

Leeds United’s switch to an all white kit was successful in the 60s.

Good shout! Emulating Real Madrid as we did Aston Villa.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:51 pm

Those red seats at Cardiff look absolutely ridiculous, especially as they're back to playing in blue.

Don’t they? I don’t think I’ve ever seen them in use other than perhaps our Premier League game there in 2018.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:45 pm

Leeds United’s switch to an all white kit was successful in the 60s.

Not sure when it happened but they were in white the first time I saw us play them. They have always retained a bit of blue & yellow though.

They did a video when Neville was talking to the fans, I think he's pretty fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZF1KAuAmk

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:25 pm

They did a video when Neville was talking to the fans, I think he's pretty fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZF1KAuAmk

That's the one I mentioned earlier. Comes across quite well does Neville although it really was a stupid decision in the first place.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:25 pm

They did a video when Neville was talking to the fans, I think he's pretty fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZF1KAuAmk

Did he come across well when he tried to move them to the AJ Bell Stadium only to be met with big opposition?

Pickles wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:00 pm

Good shout! Emulating Real Madrid as we did Aston Villa.

And Juventus emulating Notts County!

Quite glad we switched from Blue and White, personally

Can remember Sheff Wed. switching from stripes to a plain blue shirt with white sleeves but it didn't last long. Same when Arsenal changed from red with white sleeves to an all red shirt. Again it didn't last too long

martin_p wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:45 pm

Leeds United’s switch to an all white kit was successful in the 60s.

Sadly. Endeared themselves to a nation as well. Revie copied Real Madrid and although have had a few hatchetmen (Camacho, Pepe and Ramos spring to mind) they've never put out a team of thugs like DL.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:45 pm

Leeds United’s switch to an all white kit was successful in the 60s.

Liverpool going to all red at around the same time , didn't work out too badly either.

Longford Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 7:49 pm

Liverpool going to all red at around the same time , didn't work out too badly either.

All shorts were either white, black or navy blue until Liverpool & Chelsea decided to adopt red & royal blue shirts. Both I think were 1964 but these two clubs didn’t change their colours.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:31 pm

Did he come across well when he tried to move them to the AJ Bell Stadium only to be met with big opposition?

pretty confident there isn't a man alive that has ever got every decision correct.......

Quite a few clubs change design. Millwall play in dark blue shirts, but have played in all white. Stockport in any combination of blue and white. Spurs regularly ditch their navy shorts for white.
Like Man Utd, never looked right when they played in black shorts. Same with us, all claret is an awful kit. Same when we have blue shorts.
But these days, not many if any change complete colours.

One team that’s got a mixture is HSV Hamburg. All their supporters wear blue, Black & white scarves etc. Their kit is white shirts, red shorts, blue shock with black & white trim. All due to the merger of 3 clubs.

Crystal Palace wore a Claret with yellow or sky blue pinstripe when I first knew them. Then they turned to white with Claret and blue stripes, then the same with red and blue stripes, and finally the current stripage.

Brighton have at times worn all blue top, but then tend to go down the leagues when wearing that.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:47 pm

Not sure when they changed to red but Neville & Co (and Co is now Beckham) have no option but to consult.

Co is not just Beckham

KellyClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:18 am

Co is not just Beckham

Sorry, plus Declan Kelly & Mervyn Davies.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:40 pm

All shorts were either white, black or navy blue until Liverpool & Chelsea decided to adopt red & royal blue shirts. Both I think were 1964 but these two clubs didn’t change their colours.

I remember one of my first matches at Turf Moor a Central League match against Bury. They wore royal blue shorts a pale royal blue at that. I had thought until then that only white, black and navy shorts existed. It would be probably 1961 or 2 certainly no later.
For the record Bury Reserves won 3-2. It was the first time I had seen Burnley lose.

Good GMPTE colours!