Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
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Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
I fancy very little.
Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Well if you mean build the wall along the length of the Mexican border, or put Hillary in jail then the answer is no.
I think you need to give him time to find his feet then judge him. If you speak to the average working person in the USA, or the poor people in the ghetto's and projects they will tell you Obama hasn't done anything to improve their lot. Maybe Donald will come up Trumps and make America great again? If he does it will certainly benefit Britain.
I think you need to give him time to find his feet then judge him. If you speak to the average working person in the USA, or the poor people in the ghetto's and projects they will tell you Obama hasn't done anything to improve their lot. Maybe Donald will come up Trumps and make America great again? If he does it will certainly benefit Britain.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
I suspect he will try to put Clinton in jail.
Shouldn't take to much digging, but its been suggested that Obama could give her a presidential pardon before he leaves office, however it would need to be worded very very carefully.
Shouldn't take to much digging, but its been suggested that Obama could give her a presidential pardon before he leaves office, however it would need to be worded very very carefully.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
I have no idea whether he will :0
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but John Stewart and his twitter war with Trump.
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He'll start getting that terrible realisation of how history will judge him, he'll be torn between being great and being the man he claims to be, he'll age very fast.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Too many safety nets for him to get past.
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American politics is basically who will pay the most to have legalisation of policies in or not.
Only have to look at the gun issues.
The senators are backed by big business to get in and they vote accordingly.
Only have to look at the gun issues.
The senators are backed by big business to get in and they vote accordingly.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Sidney1st wrote:I suspect he will try to put Clinton in jail.
Shouldn't take to much digging, but its been suggested that Obama could give her a presidential pardon before he leaves office, however it would need to be worded very very carefully.
I doubt it. She isn't Scooter Libby, and Obama isn't Bush.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
It has but its always worth reposting.mikeS wrote:Not sure if this has been posted before, but John Stewart and his twitter war with Trump.
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As a 9 year old at Primary School in 1976 I would (along with all my class) have found his surname hysterically funny. I haven't lived in Burnley for a long time so I don't know if trump still means fart? Or is still just as funny? There was a song we often had to sing in morning assembly that had the lines 'Till trump from east to west/and wake the dead in mumber' and no one could sing it without doubling up. We also couldn't say Frank Bough without collapsing. Happy days...
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Utter rubbish, Obama did plenty for the average working person and poor people , try getting your facts right before making arsine statements.Jamesy wrote:Well if you mean build the wall along the length of the Mexican border, or put Hillary in jail then the answer is no.
I think you need to give him time to find his feet then judge him. If you speak to the average working person in the USA, or the poor people in the ghetto's and projects they will tell you Obama hasn't done anything to improve their lot. Maybe Donald will come up Trumps and make America great again? If he does it will certainly benefit Britain.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Doubt it. He'll not get half of it through.
The other half he probably had no intention of trying to do but knew saying it would win votes.
Interesting to see how the far right wackos react when they realise he won't/ can't deliver
The other half he probably had no intention of trying to do but knew saying it would win votes.
Interesting to see how the far right wackos react when they realise he won't/ can't deliver
Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Not sure getting rid of Obama care is helping the less well off.
For sure he won't be raising benefits to a maximum of $30,000
For sure he won't be raising benefits to a maximum of $30,000
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Jeffbfc wrote:American politics is basically who will pay the most to have legalisation of policies in or not.
Only have to look at the gun issues.
The senators are backed by big business to get in and they vote accordingly.
Reminds me of the classic film "Mr Smith Goes to Washington"
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
The problem is he can deliver. Republicans have control of the entire legislative branch for at least two years so they'll make hay while the sun is shining. They'll appoint an ultra-conservative to SCOTUS, one who thinks gerrymandering is fine and abortion is murder. This means to reverse the GOP rigging of the House of Representatives one of the right-wing judges on the bench will have to rule against it.TheFamilyCat wrote:Doubt it. He'll not get half of it through.
The other half he probably had no intention of trying to do but knew saying it would win votes.
Interesting to see how the far right wackos react when they realise he won't/ can't deliver
There's also a good chance Trump will get a second open seat on the supreme court, pushing the court further to the right.
The GOP have spent 6 years being obstructionists and refusing to pass any law, no matter how much they like it, if it makes Obama look even a little bit good. And the American public have rewarded them with complete control of the federal government.
If it only affected them it'd be funny.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
He will do exactly what his party wants through the two houses I expect.
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What did he do ?joey13 wrote:Utter rubbish, Obama did plenty for the average working person and poor people , try getting your facts right before making arsine statements.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Oh boy are you in for good news Jeffbfc!Jeffbfc wrote:American politics is basically who will pay the most to have legalisation of policies in or not.
Only have to look at the gun issues.
The senators are backed by big business to get in and they vote accordingly.
One of Trump's keynote policies is a clampdown on lobbying. I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear of this.
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What, the party that did virtually nothing to support him during his self-funded campaign and did everything it could to have block him?South West Claret. wrote:He will do exactly what his party wants through the two houses I expect.
Trump is a Republican in name only. He was a Democrat when it suited him back in the day.
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Probably not is the answer to the question, however Hitlery Rotten Clinton and the machine around her deserve to be "drained", as does the current top dog. As do all of the global bankers and profiteers who crashed the economy last time.
The silent (now not so silent) still suffer due to the few who continually feather their own nests at the majorities expense.
C'est la vie as they say. Will it change No! Should it, I can't be sure, why? WW3!
The silent (now not so silent) still suffer due to the few who continually feather their own nests at the majorities expense.
C'est la vie as they say. Will it change No! Should it, I can't be sure, why? WW3!
Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Trump will have to do some of the things he said he would do otherwise
he'll be down and out within a year. What precisely it will be is anybodies guess.
Here's what I think he will do or try to.
I suspect he'll borrow more money and put America even further into debt
and try and start rebuilding the infrastructure - roads, hospitals and whatever.
That should create jobs and big fat contracts for companies whom he likes and favours.
Maybe even some of his own.
I think he will also go some way down the road in respect to illegal immigrants
and try and get as many deported as possible which will prove more difficult than
he thinks and much more costly than he thinks.
He'll put building a wall across the Mexican border on the back boiler for a while
especially when he realises how much it will cost and Mexico refuse to pay for it.
He may eventually feel forced to do it but not for a few years.
He will try and repeal Obamacare and probably be successful on this one.
He'll threaten to withdraw much overseas funding, possibly also even from Nato
and certainly from the agreements on climate control.
He will make tax cuts hopefully for the lower paid.
He may try and put tariffs on imported goods especially from China but, I suspect,
if he does it will backfire big time.
If he tries to do some of the more extreme things he's talked about -i.e. same sex marriage
and banning Muslims then he'll have people out on the streets and possibly rioting.
If he's got any sense he won't and none of these will help unite the country.
He does have a much greater chance of getting some things done given the Republicans
have control of the Senate and House of Representatives even though many of them don't actually like him.
They'll want to get legislation through for a change rather than blocking everything
Obama and the Democrats were trying to achieve over the last 8 years.
he'll be down and out within a year. What precisely it will be is anybodies guess.
Here's what I think he will do or try to.
I suspect he'll borrow more money and put America even further into debt
and try and start rebuilding the infrastructure - roads, hospitals and whatever.
That should create jobs and big fat contracts for companies whom he likes and favours.
Maybe even some of his own.
I think he will also go some way down the road in respect to illegal immigrants
and try and get as many deported as possible which will prove more difficult than
he thinks and much more costly than he thinks.
He'll put building a wall across the Mexican border on the back boiler for a while
especially when he realises how much it will cost and Mexico refuse to pay for it.
He may eventually feel forced to do it but not for a few years.
He will try and repeal Obamacare and probably be successful on this one.
He'll threaten to withdraw much overseas funding, possibly also even from Nato
and certainly from the agreements on climate control.
He will make tax cuts hopefully for the lower paid.
He may try and put tariffs on imported goods especially from China but, I suspect,
if he does it will backfire big time.
If he tries to do some of the more extreme things he's talked about -i.e. same sex marriage
and banning Muslims then he'll have people out on the streets and possibly rioting.
If he's got any sense he won't and none of these will help unite the country.
He does have a much greater chance of getting some things done given the Republicans
have control of the Senate and House of Representatives even though many of them don't actually like him.
They'll want to get legislation through for a change rather than blocking everything
Obama and the Democrats were trying to achieve over the last 8 years.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
He might do due to his lack of being a politician, but will soon get brought round to the corrupt way.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
A man of his means could be incorruptible in terms of most politicians weakness - financial gain.Quickenthetempo wrote:He might do due to his lack of being a politician, but will soon get brought round to the corrupt way.
That's not to say the thought of power isn't evidently intoxicating for the man but if I were advising lobbyists right now it would be a case of "offer money to Trump at your own peril". That's one thing the guy clearly does not need or care about.
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Pleased to hear it yes.Rowls wrote:Oh boy are you in for good news Jeffbfc!
One of Trump's keynote policies is a clampdown on lobbying. I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear of this.
Will it happen?
Answer on a postcard.
No point wasting space on this site.
Ok not a chance in hell it will happen.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
he's a president that represents uneducated masses, they voted him in because he boastfully said he would do things they like.
He will do nothing of the sort. he claimed ISIS would be gone in an afternoon. Gives you some idea of how gullible some people are.
If you like ant and dec and x factor, then you too will believe in his powers.
He will do nothing of the sort. he claimed ISIS would be gone in an afternoon. Gives you some idea of how gullible some people are.
If you like ant and dec and x factor, then you too will believe in his powers.
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Uneducated masses, as in the millions of people who work for a living and paying taxes for people who don't have US citizenship ?Wile E Coyote wrote:he's a president that represents uneducated masses, they voted him in because he boastfully said he would do things they like.
He will do nothing of the sort. he claimed ISIS would be gone in an afternoon. Gives you some idea of how gullible some people are.
If you like ant and dec and x factor, then you too will believe in his powers.
I don't deny that he will struggle with halve the things he said but most of those that voted for him want what he said.
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tax is hardly a topic to praise him for flatline, surely you can see the irony there?
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Try working out for yourselfFCBurnley wrote:What did he do ?
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
joey13 wrote:Try working out for yourself
Managed the economy out of the deepest recession since the great depression, created millions of jobs, saved the auto industry, got 14 million people health insurance, eliminated pre-existing conditionas as a disqualifying factor. And this is just the most obvious ones that come to mind.
If you're going to make a claim, expect it to be questioned and be ready to defend your position. Otherwise you're just as worthless to a discussion as those who when asked to support an opinion respond with only an embarrassed silence.
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I have a life though !Imploding Turtle wrote:
Managed the economy out of the deepest recession since the great depression, created millions of jobs, saved the auto industry. And this is just the most obvious ones that come to mind.
If you're going to make a claim, expect it to be questioned and be ready to defend your position. Otherwise you're just as worthless to to a discussion as those who when asked to support an opinion respond with only an embarrassed silence.
And you missed out Obamacare , sanctimonious one
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If I decided to set up a company tomorrow that employed 1000 workers would Theresa May get the credit? Is that how it works?
Seems a pot luck way to judge things.
Seems a pot luck way to judge things.
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The 2012 Republican nominee promised to cut unemployment (as a consequence of his policies) to 6% by the end of his first term in office, it's currently 4.9%. Turning around now and claiming that job creation has nothing to do with the president is just silly. Obama's policies grew the economy. When economies grow a natural consequence of that growth is additional jobs.Quickenthetempo wrote:If I decided to set up a company tomorrow that employed 1000 workers would Theresa May get the credit? Is that how it works?
Seems a pot luck way to judge things.
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When they take credit for their policies creating the jobs but then claim it's out of their hands and the worlds banks fault etc when jobs are lost.Imploding Turtle wrote:The 2012 Republican nominee promised to cut unemployment (as a consequence of his policies) to 6% by the end of his first term in office, it's currently 4.9%. Turning around now and claiming that job creation has nothing to do with the president is just silly. Obama's policies grew the economy. When economies grow a natural consequence of that growth is additional jobs.
Maybe it's just you have good times and bad times in a natural cycle?
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Thats a problem of boom and bust capitalism, but once again, how the executive manages the economy is important too. As you're about to find out with Trump.Quickenthetempo wrote:When they take credit for their policies creating the jobs but then claim it's out of their hands and the worlds banks fault etc when jobs are lost.
Maybe it's just you have good times and bad times in a natural cycle?
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The truth is that Trump is a totally unknown quantity so making predictions is useless. He has no political allegiances at all. It is currently chicken bones in that air stuff for all the message board sages whatever you may think.
One thing I will say though is that Obama won't be making any presidential pardons for HC. He doesn't need to, she hasn't been convicted of anything.
One thing I will say though is that Obama won't be making any presidential pardons for HC. He doesn't need to, she hasn't been convicted of anything.
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He's just withdrawn his healthcare bill:
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
You mean his tax break for the rich?
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Quietly celebrating another in hopefully a long line of Trump defeats.
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Out of his depth.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Thought he'd struggle, but not this much, and not this soon.
One thing he's forgotten, and that if the US Constitution and political system is used to stop things by Republicans that they don't like, then they appear to have forgot that exactly the same thing can be done by Democrats.
One thing he's forgotten, and that if the US Constitution and political system is used to stop things by Republicans that they don't like, then they appear to have forgot that exactly the same thing can be done by Democrats.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
Lancasterclaret wrote:Thought he'd struggle, but not this much, and not this soon.
One thing he's forgotten, and that if the US Constitution and political system is used to stop things by Republicans that they don't like, then they appear to have forgot that exactly the same thing can be done by Democrats.
There's a Mitch McConnell quote you'll love. I'll find it.
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Here's Mitch saying that one of his proudest moments was telling Obama that he won't be filling the vacant SCOTUS seat with nearly a whole year left of his presidency: http://www.snopes.com/mitch-mcconnell-o ... t-moments/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And here's Mitch saying that the American people won't tolerate such obstructionism from Democrats over the vacant SCOTUS seat: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres ... ck-n703301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Mitch McConnell wrote:“One of my proudest moments was when I looked at Barack Obama in the eye and I said, ‘Mr. President, you will not fill this Supreme Court vacancy,’”
NBC News wrote:"Apparently there's yet a new standard now, which is to not confirm a Supreme Court nominee at all," McConnell said, adding: "I think that's something the American people simply will not tolerate, and we'll be looking forward to receiving a Supreme Court nomination and moving forward on it."
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
The sad truth about the Republicans is that they are not a party that knows how to build and create. They are a party of opposition, they are good at obstructionism and tearing down , but they do not know how to govern effectively for everybody. So lets move on to tax reform and another attempt at implementing trickle down economics, because it has worked so well in the past. Not.
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He will do what the 3 houses out there will let him do, just like Obama in many respects.
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24 million less Americans (projected) with health insurance over the next decade. I'm absolutely delighted this has failed. His reaction to the defeat is as equally pathetic as the bill itself, as expected.
Tax reform next is it, I wonder who's going to suffer under this proposed bill. The same ones who were a breath away from losing their health insurance perhaps - just a punt.
Tax reform next is it, I wonder who's going to suffer under this proposed bill. The same ones who were a breath away from losing their health insurance perhaps - just a punt.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
To the subject of the OP he is absolutely focused on what he said he would do, so he's actually good to his word. Problem is the checks and balances of the system the fore-fathers put in place prevent it from happening. Incredibly insightful of them, with the exception of the electoral college of course. The one criticism of the constitution is that it didn't account for the dynamics of time (hence the 2nd amendment difficulties)
Out of interest I listened to an internal webcast from my employer's CMO office, and it was really fascinating to listen to the corporate affairs guy talking about our corporate reaction to his presidency and how relationships and approach methods to the folks on the hill are impacted. Apparently we employ professional lobbyists, and the guy detailed out the financial consequences at corporate level of some of his economic/tax policies.... wish I could quote them for insight, but sadly I can't.
Out of interest I listened to an internal webcast from my employer's CMO office, and it was really fascinating to listen to the corporate affairs guy talking about our corporate reaction to his presidency and how relationships and approach methods to the folks on the hill are impacted. Apparently we employ professional lobbyists, and the guy detailed out the financial consequences at corporate level of some of his economic/tax policies.... wish I could quote them for insight, but sadly I can't.
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Re: Will Trump do anything he said he would do?
The interesting thing about his health plan defeat is that it was the far-right, lunatic fringe, so-called Freedom Caucus, that defeated the bill. They literally want people to starve in the streets.
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I'll get over it eventually.Imploding Turtle wrote:Fewer.