Boris

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:22 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Priti Vacant, Dominic Raab and Javid given top jobs.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:23 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:This must be the most right wing government of my lifetime.

Priti Patel as home secretary, Boris as PM, Raab as foreign sec, Javid is a massive an upgrade of Hammond.

Loving it.

The lefties are in absolute meltdown on twitter, its literally like the EU referendum all over again.

As someone who wants the Tories to lose the next election I'm loving how right-wing this government is too.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:26 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:That's the bit I don't get. Although theoretically the backstop could be for perpetuity, in reality if May's proposal had passed but we didn't like how things were going and we felt trapped by the backstop, then we could just walk away with no deal at any point in the future. (So no different to now in reality).
Ultimately, surely, we can walk away with no deal tomorrow or any day if it gets through the Commons?

I think it’s because the brextremists don’t want to give it a chance. Othing but the purest fullest separation will be good enough for them. It’s like Pol Pot taking it to Year Zero. Break Britain completely down and rebuild it in they way they always wished it could be. A small government, low tax, low regulation “paradise”.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:28 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:As someone who wants the Tories to lose the next election I'm loving how right-wing this government is too.

oh contraire my little Phylum Chordata.

Mays government was probably the wettest in living memory, she inspired 0 confidence and fought the worst general election campaign I have ever seen, yet she still managed to beat Corbyn. Boris is not May, people on my side actually LIKE him, and normies who barely know anything about politics but vote anyway recognise and like him too because "hur dur the funny guy who is always doing crazy stuff"

He is exactly what the Tories need, and i firmly believe that if he runs a GE, the tories will tear Labour apart.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:30 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:That's the bit I don't get. Although theoretically the backstop could be for perpetuity, in reality if May's proposal had passed but we didn't like how things were going and we felt trapped by the backstop, then we could just walk away with no deal at any point in the future. (So no different to now in reality).
Ultimately, surely, we can walk away with no deal tomorrow or any day if it gets through the Commons?

It's a bit of a weird one. In theory we couldn't walk away from the backstop as we'd be breaking an international treaty and that would obviously be a bad thing. However, introducing a hard border in Ireland would also be breaking an international treaty. It's a bit of a rock and hard place.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:30 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:oh contraire my little Phylum Chordata.

Mays government was probably the wettest in living memory, she inspired 0 confidence and fought the worst general election campaign I have ever seen, yet she still managed to beat Corbyn. Boris is not May, people on my side actually LIKE him, and normies who barely know anything about politics but vote anyway recognise and like him too because "hur dur the funny guy who is always doing crazy stuff"

He is exactly what the Tories need, and i firmly believe that if he runs a GE, the tories will tear Labour apart.

Did you just use the term "normies" unironically?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:31 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Did you just use the term "normies" unironically?

yes

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:31 pm

agreenwood wrote:Welcome to 2019. The year when people are willing to accept “a bit of a dick” as PM if it winds up journalists they don’t like.

I’m seeing more and more of this from people. I can’t imagine how **** their lives must be that they’ve given up on what’s best for them and focus on what annoys people.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:33 pm

Do you think Javid knows he'll need more than the calculator on his phone?

This is gonna be a comedy routine of the highest order.

Good job they're not playing with our lives.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:34 pm

Prime Minister - Boris Johnson
Home Secretary - Priti Patel
Foreign Secretary - Dominic Raab

Jesus H Christ. Just when you think we can't sink any lower. The highest offices in the land occupied by some of the thickest and most deranged people in politics.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:38 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:He is exactly what the Tories need, and i firmly believe that if he runs a GE, the tories will tear Labour apart.

Really? Based on what exactly?

In addition, you must agree that all this talk of uniting the nation is utter rubbish as Boris Johnson is absolutely despised in Scotland.

Boris wins means it's end of the United Kingdom.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:38 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:Prime Minister - Boris Johnson
Home Secretary - Priti Patel
Foreign Secretary - Dominic Raab

Jesus H Christ. Just when you think we can't sink any lower. The highest offices in the land occupied by some of the thickest and most deranged people in politics.

Yep its an absolute nightmare for the pearl clutching classes and tree huggers.

I'm rather enjoying it though.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:38 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I’m seeing more and more of this from people. I can’t imagine how **** their lives must be that they’ve given up on what’s best for them and focus on what annoys people.

It's all just a means by which people can be convinced to vote against their own interests. As long as you can get them afraid, or angry, or hateful of other people more than they're concerned by their own lot in life, then they'll vote *against* their neighbour rather than *for* themselves.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:39 pm

Priti Patel sacked for being dishonest in her explanation of secret meetings with the Israeli Government is Home Secretary!! WTF is that?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:40 pm

Spijed wrote:Really? Based on what exactly?

In addition, you must agree that all this talk of uniting the nation is utter rubbish as Boris Johnson is absolutely despised in Scotland.

Boris wins means it's end of the United Kingdom.

Oh he won't unite the nation, he will further isolate the left and Scotland will continue to throw its toys out of the pram I'm sure.

It won't matter though, because the only party that can stop them is Labour and that will never happen with Corbyn in charge and the SNP dominating Scotland.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:41 pm

dougcollins wrote:Do you think Javid knows he'll need more than the calculator on his phone?

This is gonna be a comedy routine of the highest order.

Good job they're not playing with our lives.

Given he was on the board at Deutsche Bank I think he's probably OK with that kind of stuff.

He's probably one of the few reasonable looking appointments. Raab and Patel on the other hand ...

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:42 pm

Wonder where a copy of the phrase "Arbeit macht frei" is located within government?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:43 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Oh he won't unite the nation, he will further isolate the left and Scotland will continue to throw its toys out of the pram I'm sure.

It won't matter though, because the only party that can stop them is Labour and that will never happen with Corbyn in charge and the SNP dominating Scotland.

When you say "isolate the left" i assume you mean isolate them by making them a majority of the public.

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Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:45 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:oh contraire my little Phylum Chordata.

Au contraire.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:45 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:When you say "isolate the left" i assume you mean isolate them by making them a majority of the public.

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yea, we will just see how that one rolls out in practice.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:47 pm

How long has David Mellor been a tranny ?

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:48 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Yep its an absolute nightmare for the pearl clutching classes and tree huggers.

I'm rather enjoying it though.

It's like a hard brexiteers wet dream !

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:49 pm

aggi wrote:Given he was on the board at Deutsche Bank I think he's probably OK with that kind of stuff.

He's probably one of the few reasonable looking appointments. Raab and Patel on the other hand ...

You've never worked in banking, have you?

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:49 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:As someone who wants the Tories to lose the next election I'm loving how right-wing this government is too.

The sky poll shows that 42% of people feel more pessimistic under Boris, and 51% think he isnt a serious politician. Yet still twice as many people think he will make a better PM than Corbyn. If that doesn't frighten Labour into ditching him, nothing will.
If Boris does badly, as he well could with the enemies hes made on the bank benches, we could be in for one hung parliament after another for decades.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:50 pm

joey13 wrote:How long has ***** ****** been a tranny ?

Please don't use disgusting foul language like that.

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:55 pm

The 3 great offices of state held by second generation immigrants, but yeah, racists or something.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:02 pm

AndyClaret wrote:The 3 great offices of state held by second generation immigrants, but yeah, racists or something.

And yet you still hate immigration.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:03 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Please don't use disgusting foul language like that.

Says the guy who swears at people in every other post.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:03 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Says the guy who swears at people in every other post.

Whoosh.

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:05 pm

dsr wrote:And it won't be a problem. Even under WTO rules, which do not specify a hard border, the problem of having a physical border is so insurmountable that a solution would be found. The basis of the paperwork on exports to Ireland is already in place; every export already has specific paperwork. The paperwork would be amended, and the way HMRC checks it would also be amended. There is no rule that says every import and export should be physically checked; there is no rule that says there must be random checks of imports and exports.

If there are no customs checks whatsoever you're basically saying there are no tariffs on imports from the EU, which means any WTO nation would be able to make a complaint on the grounds that they're being discriminated against.

And if there are even minor customs checks and infrastructure on the border the EU are unlikely to give us a trade deal.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:13 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:Prime Minister - Boris Johnson
Home Secretary - Priti Patel
Foreign Secretary - Dominic Raab

Jesus H Christ. Just when you think we can't sink any lower. The highest offices in the land occupied by some of the thickest and most deranged people in politics.

Hardly thick but highly educated. Good solid appointments so far. Enjoy seeing The Mirror up in arms and these weak pacifist types phoning the radio ranting.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:20 pm

Blackrod wrote:Hardly thick but highly educated. Good solid appointments so far. Enjoy seeing The Mirror up in arms and these weak pacifist types phoning the radio ranting.

Ah yes. Today they're "weak pacifist types". Tomorrow they'll be left-wing terrorists.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:21 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Ah yes. Today they're "weak pacifist types". Tomorrow they'll be left-wing terrorists.

They’ll be chanting “send them back” if they make an even bigger mess of Brexit.

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:23 pm

Politics works in cycles over time, we have right wing governments, then left, then centrist.

So anyone who’s massively excited/depressed by this, just remember it will all change in a few years. So stop calling each other names.

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:25 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:And yet you still hate immigration.

Says who ? controlled immigration charlie, it's not difficult to understand.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:26 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Yep its an absolute nightmare for the pearl clutching classes and tree huggers.

I'm rather enjoying it though.

Keep watching, it will only get bettter

All this is just waffle, I'm really looking forward to hearing what he says on November 1st when we are still in the EU.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:26 pm

Surprised by the Sajid appointment in that he was not at all complimentary about Boris on the campaign trail.At least he has a background that does qualify him for the Chancellor job. Not a fan of jobs for the boys and appointing someone who is not qualified for the job. Eg the boss of a pharmaceutical company becoming a boss of an engineering firm knowing nothing about that industry.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:29 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Keep watching, it will only get bettter

All this is just waffle, I'm really looking forward to hearing what he says on November 1st when we are still in the EU.

Probably will be, I don't trust Boris as far as I can throw him.

Yet you seem to misunderstand my enjoyment.

It doesn't come from optimism for the future, it comes from the salt and tears of lefties in the present.

thomaspaine · Post by **thomaspaine** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:42 pm

Just when you think it couldn't get any worse with the election of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister by 100,000 or so Tories. The bumbling idiot appoints Pritti Patel and Dominic Raab to top jobs in the Cabinet! Democracy is being treated with disdain. The countries in a very precarious position - the only saving grace is that Johnson will cock it up big style sooner rather than later.We know about most of his previous gaffes,lies and indiscretions but there's plenty that haven't come to light yet - with more to come.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:44 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Probably will be, I don't trust Boris as far as I can throw him.

Yet you seem to misunderstand my enjoyment.

It doesn't come from optimism for the future, it comes from the salt and tears of lefties in the present.

You remind me of the idiot kid in the class who would punch themselves in the face expecting others to be impressed.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:50 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Probably will be, I don't trust Boris as far as I can throw him.

Yet you seem to misunderstand my enjoyment.

It doesn't come from optimism for the future, it comes from the salt and tears of lefties in the present.

Why would lefties be crying?

This is the best thing that could ever happen to the Conservative Party.

My enjoyment comes from the ridiculous, misplaced optimism the right-wingers are enjoying today.

Boris Johnson will deliver the OPPOSITE of everything he's promising, he will split the country, Brexit will get cancelled and a general election will see him laughed out of office and the destruction of the Conservative Party.

The shortest, most-useless, most-ridiculous and derided government in the history of the UK started today.

As a "leftie" I am LOVING this.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:52 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You remind me of the idiot kid in the class who would punch themselves in the face expecting others to be impressed.

I see it more as punching the whinging, cry baby in the face and getting myself expelled.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:52 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Why would lefties be crying?

This is the best thing that could ever happen to the Conservative Party.

My enjoyment comes from the ridiculous, misplaced optimism the right-wingers are enjoying today.

Boris Johnson will deliver the OPPOSITE of everything he's promising, he will split the country, Brexit will get cancelled and a general election will see him laughed out of office and the destruction of the Conservative Party.

The shortest, most-useless, most-ridiculous and derided government in the history of the UK started today.

As a "leftie" I am LOVING this.

That's some nice denial there, i bet you almost even convinced yourself.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:59 pm

Blackrod wrote:Hardly thick but highly educated. Good solid appointments so far. Enjoy seeing The Mirror up in arms and these weak pacifist types phoning the radio ranting.

Why? Do you think lefties and remainers are crapping themselves now?

Please, if you thought Theresa May was a bad/ineffectual Prime Minister just wait and see what this moron does.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:59 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:That's some nice denial there, i bet you almost even convinced yourself.

Oh yeah, look out lefties, here comes the mighty Boris Johnson

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:01 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Oh yeah, look at lefties, here comes the mighty Boris Johnson

Here he comes. The left are in for it now. Be afraid.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:02 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Here he comes. The left are in for it now. Be afraid.

Europe doesn't stand a chance

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:03 pm

Wow that is new and refreshingly funny picture and post.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:04 pm

Blackrod wrote:Wow that is new and refreshingly funny picture and post.

It will never not be funny.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:13 pm

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