James Bulger - 27 years...

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Jakub is well up for the idea of the public choosing the method of execution quite simply.

Absolutely bonkers but thankfully he's never going to be in any position of power.

[Jakubclaret]

I’m not exploring any possibility, I was responding to someone else who suggested that someone couldn’t be a decent person because of something they did when they were 10.

And what does the £5m have to do with anything? What would your solution have been that would have reduced that cost? I’m not sure I actually want to know but here goes...

My solution would have been is to ask the public after all it's there money getting spent, dismissing capital punishment as an option due to there age, but including life term detention in a secure unit as a replacement harsh punishment.

[Rileybobs]

My solution would have been is to ask the public after all it's there money getting spent, dismissing capital punishment as an option due to there age, but including life term detention in a secure unit as a replacement harsh punishment.

Of course you would. A premium rate phone line, and maybe £1.50 per text would surely go a long way towards the £5m pot. Only surprise is taking the death penalty off the table, that's surely going to reduce viewing figures.

[Boss Hogg]

Why is it a grown man who makes mistakes leading to the deaths of tens of thousands of people is forgiven, and a ten year old boy who makes mistakes leading to one death isn’t, in your eyes?

Examples ? I’d be interested to know who you are comparing to a child torturer and killer ?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Examples ? I’d be interested to know who you are comparing to a child torturer and killer ?

Could be Blair or Boris, but judging by the person asking, I'm gonna put my money on Boris.

[Boss Hogg]

I’m thinking Boris but I’m hoping to be surprised.

[AndrewJB]

Examples ? I’d be interested to know who you are comparing to a child torturer and killer ?

On another thread Jacob has said that although our part time PM has made some terrible mistakes - which we all know have led to tens of thousands of needless deaths - he invokes the idea that to err is human. On this thread however, when the perpetrators were children, his attitude is anything but forgiving. I’m just curious how he’s married these opposing ethical points in himself.

[Boss Hogg]

Covid would have killed thousands whichever government was in charge. Look around the world Communists, left, right ...... this poor child was murdered by 2 twisted evil individuals who wanted to kill.

[Jakubclaret]

On another thread Jacob has said that although our part time PM has made some terrible mistakes - which we all know have led to tens of thousands of needless deaths - he invokes the idea that to err is human. On this thread however, when the perpetrators were children, his attitude is anything but forgiving. I’m just curious how he’s married these opposing ethical points in himself.

Jakub BTW, any PM handling this Covid crisis would be responsible for erroneous decisions leading to avoidable deaths you directly blame boris johnson for this, you seem wedded to the view that nobody else in BJs position would have made them same mistakes, boris johnson himself was struck down with Covid & still managed to overcome the virus & maintain the leadership, why can't you back the man for the good of this country???. We are supposed to be discussing the bulger subject on this thread but you are bringing boris johnson into it.

[evensteadiereddie]

Wtf ?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Jakub BTW, any PM handling this Covid crisis would be responsible for erroneous decisions leading to avoidable deaths you directly blame boris johnson for this, you seem wedded to the view that nobody else in BJs position would have made them same mistakes, boris johnson himself was struck down with Covid & still managed to overcome the virus & maintain the leadership, why can't you back the man for the good of this country???. We are supposed to be discussing the bulger subject on this thread but you are bringing boris johnson into it.

In all fairness it was a reasonable question and valid point.

You've two opposing views on the deaths of people through the actions of people..

[AndrewJB]

Jakub BTW, any PM handling this Covid crisis would be responsible for erroneous decisions leading to avoidable deaths you directly blame boris johnson for this, you seem wedded to the view that nobody else in BJs position would have made them same mistakes, boris johnson himself was struck down with Covid & still managed to overcome the virus & maintain the leadership, why can't you back the man for the good of this country???. We are supposed to be discussing the bulger subject on this thread but you are bringing boris johnson into it.

Apologies for the misspelling. My phone has spellcheck interventions.

My question to you was about ethics. How do you reconcile your opposing degrees of forgiveness?

[Jakubclaret]

Apologies for the misspelling. My phone has spellcheck interventions.

My question to you was about ethics. How do you reconcile your opposing degrees of forgiveness?

It's all about intent, it's difficult to apportion blame when intent isn't present.