January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[kentonclaret]

Far from pointless as far as Mike Garlick and the other shareholders are concerned.

This January Transfer thread would represent a decent little opening stand against India on Thursday

42 for None

[nyclaret]

I’m not too concerned if we don’t make any signings today. I think we’ll have enough to stay up. However that’ll be two transfer windows just past without an addition to the first team. Some would argue that we haven’t signed a starting first teamer since 2017. They’ve left themselves with a huge task this summer.

[Iloveyoubrady]

I’m not too concerned if we don’t make any signings today. I think we’ll have enough to stay up. However that’ll be two transfer windows just past without an addition to the first team. Some would argue that we haven’t signed a starting first teamer since 2017. They’ve left themselves with a huge task this summer.

How many do we really need though? 2 or 3 properly good signings would probably have us sorted out? I’d rather wait until summer if it means we can identify some better players for our team.

[ksrclaret]

Collins to be 4th choice centre half!? Seriously?

I think a certain Kevin Finbarr Long would have something to say about that. He loves that gig and won’t be giving it up without a fight. He’s a great lad as well. He doesn’t deserve to be upgraded to 3rd choice, that would be really harsh on him.

[burnley007]

if after a takeover, and with a struggling team with injured players a constant concern, we fail to strengthen the first team squad, then its slightly pointless all round.

I'm trying not to be over dramatic today, but I completely agree with you.

[Safron]

I'm trying not to be over dramatic today, but I completely agree with you.

Exactly can't see the point at all puzzling in the extreme

[Venkys4eva]

I always read these transfer threads but don't usually participate but I was wondering when did a major signing last break on one? It seems you may as well just make one a sticky for people to read as they always seem exactly the same..

[Burnley1989]

When people say the take over was pointless, I'm struggling to understand that...

ALK didn't buy the club just to make signing in January, who is it pointless for? the fans? The comment just doesn't make sense at all

[CrosspoolClarets]

It’s a shame but it looks like we have more chance of signing Kelly Dalglish than King & Kenny

But in all seriousness, if one is going to Celtic because we are baulking at £10m, and the other is going to Southampton despite being rumoured to want to return to the NW (and almost certain to be on the bench at Soton) - it doesn’t really suggest anything has changed at the club.

I was hoping the new board would want to make an immediate statement to win the fans over, even if we overpaid for Kenny by a few million, it would make that statement, he is young, in a position where we have 2 thirtysomethings and where we aren’t the strongest.

There may of course be more to it, e.g. agents playing sillybuggers, but I still feel a bit disheartened

[jedi_master]

So we haven't got a 4th choice centre half and a 3rd choice right back because we wouldn't pay £10 million and £9 million?

And even though we've bid for these players, we haven't got any money?

Never change lads, never change

Right back, agreed - would have been a nice future proofing exercise but can wait till the summer. He probably wouldn’t have played much this season.

I can’t agree on what would be the third choice centre back either (no way would Long be ahead of a £10-12m defender that isn’t Ben Gibson). I think that was a vital signing this window because of Tarkowski’s situation. He will be going in the summer, and six months to bed his replacement in learning the system and getting accustomed to the club sounds vital to me, as opposed to joining in the summer and being thrown straight into the fray alongside Mee from the outset. It also seems daft to me when we know we have a guaranteed £20m or so for Tarkowski coming (and know we must replace him) and a probable £8m coming for Gibson as well. If you know the money is coming, it’s not really a gamble is it?

[kentonclaret]

"ALK didn't buy the club just to make signings in January"

Agreed, but there was a clamour among fans on the ALK takeover thread for the whole process to be completed before the 1st January so that they would be in place to provide financial backing in the January window. This was also reported in the national media, a report on the takeover in the Daily Mail during December 2020 commenting that extra backing in the transfer market would be available to SD if the deal was completed by 1st January.

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Southampton looking to do a deal for Josh King in part exchange for Shane Long

https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/stat ... 95425?s=21

In the gossip columns yesterday Watford & Bournemouth were wanting Vydra. Not sure I’d do a swap for King but SD might think different.

[Woodleyclaret]

I love the Sky comment from PNE about not selling their CB to a " local rival" dont they understand these lower league clubs are insignificant to us Superior Clarets

[ksrclaret]

Can’t argue with that, Jedi, although I’m sure someone will try. #whatifthatsourvaluation

[beddie]

My own view us that the new owners are perhaps finding it more difficult than first realised. It's fast becoming a situation where if we don't pay the asking price, or as near to it we won't be bringing anyone in, especially recognised players. With our style of play and this is not a criticism of Dyche I'm sure that will put off some players. I think our future needs to be more towards youth at a lot less money, one I hoped was Davies at Preston specially at £2 mill but that's not going to happen now. If we can keep our current squad and avoid injuries we've a good chance of staying up, then rebuilding in summer.

[Papabendi]

In the gossip columns yesterday Watford & Bournemouth were wanting Vydra. Not sure I’d do a swap for King but SD might think different.

In my view if the finances are there (unlikely) then swapping Vydra for King is probably worth a shot. We saw yesterday that in a game where no one performed and Vydra got no service (albeit he also lacked the physicality needed) he was first to be hauled off. He will never be fully trusted by Dyche.

[randomclaret2]

"If we can keep our current squad and avoid injuries we've a good chance of staying up, then rebuilding in summer."
The 'fingers crossed' policy as espoused by the previous board

[KRBFC]

King would be excellent here, would slot straight in to partner Wood upfront and give us pace movement and the ability to carry the ball through the middle of the pitch. I remember him playing for Basturds, he had Trippier on toast and theres not many times Iv seen that.

[steve1264b]

I love comments like "make a statement" and the suggestion we should over pay by a couple of million is a joke surely?

Anyone who watched the chairman of sunderland splash out millions on Grigg despite the manager and friends telling him not to do it because he felt pressured to make a statement and keep the fans happy.

If we dont sign someone i will be bitterly disappointed but not as disapointed as i was when we signed Wells. I said at the time we might as well set fire to the money in the centre circle.

[Dark Cloud]

"If we can keep our current squad and avoid injuries we've a good chance of staying up, then rebuilding in summer."
The 'fingers crossed' policy as espoused by the previous board

That's it in a nutshell for me. I'm more than happy not be paying stupid, inflated prices for players at this stage and walking away if people are trying to fleece us, BUT everything revolves around our best 12/13 players remaining fit (ESPECIALLY Tarks and Mee) because I THINK we do have enough about us to stay up. However only a couple of key injuries would completely scupper us I fear.

[Lancasterclaret]

it’s not really a gamble is it?

But it always is

He's clearly not our first choice (thats still Worral) and he's not played a lot of games.

Would I rather bring in players now?

Of course!

But they are essentially cover or long term, and if the price is too high, then we probably shouldn't be paying it.

Just my two cents

[Stevie Morgan]

That's it in a nutshell for me. I'm more than happy not be paying stupid, inflated prices for players at this stage and walking away if people are trying to fleece us, BUT everything revolves around our best 12/13 players remaining fit (ESPECIALLY Tarks and Mee) because I THINK we do have enough about us to stay up. However only a couple of key injuries would completely scupper us I fear.

Yep - Long at centre half is the new Arfield in Central midfield.

[wilks_bfc]

Today could be a breaking day for our chairman on Twitter

He’s getting tagged in posts from “Champ Manager wannabes”asking why we haven’t paid the £7m for Kenny, £10m for Collins & why we couldn’t afford the £2m that Liverpool have paid for Davies or smashing our wage structure for King

[MACCA]

If we can keep our current squad and avoid injuries we've a good chance of staying up, then rebuilding in summer.

That's all well and good, but the same was said last January and look what happened, covid struck.

And dont forget the money liked to go on holiday over the summer when the last lot were looking after it.

"We have loads of cash, and are well run" in April
" we have no money, vivid has struck" october transfer window
"We had 55m in cash reserves " in December

The convenience of how we forget where the check book is when the windows open is amazing.
I hope the new lot dont use the previous charlatans way of "doing business" ( or lack of it )

[Sunny Cornwall]

ALK bought us with a business plan that included making us more attractive internationally. To do that we need better players and need to play better football. If they’re not prepared to spend, even if it’s on players for the future, they won’t achieve their goal.

[BigChaCha]

Burnley CEO Neil Hart's message to fans!

I would envisage we would have a relatively active January and next summer window.

[ksrclaret]

Haha top bants from Harty. He’s a good bloke and a top man.

[Granny WeatherWax]

The January window is normally a really difficult time to sign players, so this window given everything that is going on makes it almost impossible.

The arrogance and ignorance by some people on this thread is startling.

[scamander]

In fairness David Collins in Champ Man was sensational!
Brad Maylett was sometimes very useful as well.

[BurnleyFC]

Burnley CEO Neil Hart's message to fans!

He’s a proper comic and a practical joker is Harty.

[IanMcL]

I think 2 will arrive tomorrow, however only possibly 1 might go out now.

Ashley?

[DomBFC1882]

Yet again another extremely depressing transfer window

[randomclaret2]

The January window is normally a really difficult time to sign players, so this window given everything that is going on makes it almost impossible.

The arrogance and ignorance by some people on this thread is startling.

And yet over 220 permanent and loan signings made by Football League clubs already this window despite is being told many of them would have been out of business by now

[Granny WeatherWax]

And yet over 220 permanent and loan signings made by Football League clubs already this window despite is being told many of them would have been out of business by now

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[Firthy]

King would be excellent here, would slot straight in to partner Wood upfront and give us pace movement and the ability to carry the ball through the middle of the pitch. I remember him playing for Basturds, he had Trippier on toast and theres not many times Iv seen that.

More chance of signing a queen

[randomclaret2]

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Make it 235 and counting by Premier League and Football League clubs then

[Granny WeatherWax]

Make it 235 and counting by Premier League and Football League clubs then

Apple and Pears. They wont be getting quoted £10m for a 3rd (at best) choice right back.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I love comments like "make a statement" and the suggestion we should over pay by a couple of million is a joke surely?

Anyone who watched the chairman of sunderland splash out millions on Grigg despite the manager and friends telling him not to do it because he felt pressured to make a statement and keep the fans happy.

If we dont sign someone i will be bitterly disappointed but not as disapointed as i was when we signed Wells. I said at the time we might as well set fire to the money in the centre circle.

I made the comment “make a statement” and what I mean by that is unlike Wells King is a proven PL player, and Kenny is a long term target (I would be amazed if Wells was). I assume Kenny is thought of having the potential of Tarks when we signed him, so again unlike Wells, meeting the asking price would not seem to be a bad move if in 3 years time he is worth double that price.

Any new company owner has to win over stakeholders early in their tenure, in this case that includes the fans and, most importantly, Dyche. The next window is 6 months away and if Dyche feels nothing will change he could easily go before then.

So I’m not criticising the new owners, that would be unfair at this stage, but it felt to me this was a perfect chance to tactically lay down a marker, though of course we do not know the facts.

[randomclaret2]

Apple and Pears. They wont be getting quoted £10m for a 3rd (at best) choice right back.

235 transfers does not tally with " almost impossible "

[TopCat]

Has Boden been told to stand down yet?

[kentonclaret]

"They won't be getting quoted £10m for a 3rd (at best) choice right back"

So, what price do you expect will be quoted to us in the summer when players will be so much cheaper (allegedly) as we carry out our squad overhaul?

As I can recall players were still way out of our financial reach during the last summer window.

Mind you, with Tarks and Dwight expected to move on transfers will probably be financed from players sales rather than by the new owners.

[ClaretMov]

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Our transfer window

[ClaretMov]

Has Boden been told to stand down yet?

Yes on the 1st of January

[Firthy]

Has Boden been told to stand down yet?

He didn't even bother to get out of bed this morning

[Granny WeatherWax]

235 transfers does not tally with " almost impossible "

Why would i be referring to lower leagues, pretty clear its a different ball game in the EPL, and how many of those lower league transfers involved a fee. Its a completely irrelevant comparison.

[claretonthecoast1882]

235 transfers does not tally with " almost impossible "

That number is about as stupid and irrelevant as it gets. Using similar logic we have signed 2 players this window.

[Granny WeatherWax]

"They won't be getting quoted £10m for a 3rd (at best) choice right back"

So, what price do you expect will be quoted to us in the summer when players will be so much cheaper (allegedly) as we carry out our squad overhaul?

As I can recall players were still way out of our financial reach during the last summer window.

Mind you, with Tarks and Dwight expected to move on transfers will probably be financed from players sales rather than by the new owners.

Its a rich premier league club trying to take advantage. We are completely right to tell teams to get stuffed and be patient. When you think of our transfer budget spending £10m on someone like Kenny would be a joke.

[DCWat]

Its a rich premier league club trying to take advantage. We are completely right to tell teams to get stuffed and be patient. When you think of our transfer budget spending £10m on someone like Kenny would be a joke.

Appreciating that we won’t be awash with available funds for players, I’d hoped, particularly with the current climate, that there would be a good few opportunities to take advantage of clubs in a far worse position.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Appreciating that we won’t be awash with available funds for players, I’d hoped, particularly with the current climate, that there would be a good few opportunities to take advantage of clubs in a far worse position.

Exactly, shop in a different market, but still hard work given current conditions eg - teams don't want to let teams go because of Covid and the schedule, can even scout players in this country, dyche's ultra specific requirements etc etc

[Conroy92]

Its a rich premier league club trying to take advantage. We are completely right to tell teams to get stuffed and be patient. When you think of our transfer budget spending £10m on someone like Kenny would be a joke.

Would it? What do you expect to pay for a starting right back in the summer when Bardsley has gone and teams know we need a right back?