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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:57 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:51 pm
Uptheclarets Transfer Window bingo

Sign over priced players and stay up - well done the board/Can't believe they are risking the future of the club
Sign over priced players and go down - what were the board thinking/at least they gave it a go
Stay up - we got lucky no thanks to the board/they new what they were doing
Go down - sack everybody/we'll bounce back

Bonus section
What does Mike Rigg do ?
The thing is Vegas what we call "overpriced" probably isn't to most other clubs and it makes you wonder whether we're actually serious in getting anyone. Can't always have everything on your own terms in life.

We've had over 12 weeks in the summer and this January and spent a whopping 1 million. That is poor.

God knows how some on here are more confident when the summer comes based on experience.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:57 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:55 pm
Why Burnley need new blood from The Athletic:

https://theathletic.com/2356788/2021/02 ... ed_article
Never heard of Newblood, but I’d take him at this stage...
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:57 pm

The elephant in the room in all this is Dyche.

I think we are now realising that his limited criteria restrict our options in the transfer market. He’s the one constant.

The message has been clear all window, he will be backed and supported but he will will again go with what we have. He seems comfortable with that based on his recent interviews. Not sure why he wasn’t in the summer but he is now.
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:59 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:57 pm
The elephant in the room in all this is Dyche.

I think we are no realising that his limited criteria restrict our options in the transfer market. He’s the one constant.

The message has been clear all window, he will be backed and supported but he will will again go with what we have. He seems comfortable with that based on his recent interviews. Not sure why he wasn’t in the summer but he is now.
He must be the only manager in history to not want backing it's amazing.

Thing is that argument is nonsense because he obviously thinks we do otherwise we wouldn't be bidding for players

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Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:59 pm

Just to clarify - Dyche is not an elephant.

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Post by burnley007 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:00 pm

Dyche is hopefully not going to be too frustrated tonight

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:02 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:57 pm
The thing is Vegas what we call "overpriced" probably isn't to most other clubs and it makes you wonder whether we're actually serious in getting anyone. Can't always have everything on your own terms in life.

We've had over 12 weeks in the summer and this January and spent a whopping 1 million. That is poor.

God knows how some on here are more confident when the summer comes based on experience.
I wouldn't call it remotely close to poor, not close to being that good !
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:02 pm
I wouldn't call it remotely close to poor, not close to being that good !
😂👍👍

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Post by boyyanno » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:04 pm

Definitely not our worst transfer window ever, but one of the most disappointing.

The club, the CEO and the new owners all raised expectations for this window, so it's natural that the fans expected us to do buisness. The big slap in the face is to find out that there was a nice little kitty tucked away which the club has used to effectively buy itself. That money could have been better spent throughout the last 5 years and would have surely made the re-build job easier than it will be now. I think those suggesting fans should be anything other than disappointed are not being very fair.
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Post by LaLigaClaret » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:10 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:53 pm
Depends on what the moon's saying re Burnley's transfer window.
It's saying our transfer window sucks yet again. Ha Ha ha repeatedly for days

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Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:14 pm

We can probably scrape through with what we have as long as we don’t have injuries. Yet another poor window though and the squad is seriously ageing. We will probably lose prize playing assets in Summer too. The new owner comments about being active in the market and over delivering are beginning to look look a bit pathetic. We could have had the same window with Garlic in charge but without the debt and new director remuneration.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:14 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:59 pm
He must be the only manager in history to not want backing it's amazing.

Thing is that argument is nonsense because he obviously thinks we do otherwise we wouldn't be bidding for players
I’m not saying he doesn’t want backing, I’m saying that he had/has a limited number of targets he’d be happy with and for whatever reason we’ve not been able to get them.

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:14 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:04 pm
Definitely not our worst transfer window ever, but one of the most disappointing.

The club, the CEO and the new owners all raised expectations for this window, so it's natural that the fans expected us to do buisness. The big slap in the face is to find out that there was a nice little kitty tucked away which the club has used to effectively buy itself. That money could have been better spent throughout the last 5 years and would have surely made the re-build job easier than it will be now. I think those suggesting fans should be anything other than disappointed are not being very fair.
This 👏

Perhaps all these happy delusional clappers can get their head round this although I do admit it's a long shot

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Post by clarethomer » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:19 pm

who'd take Phil Jones right now...
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Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:22 pm

What I find amazing is that we have scored an incredible 13 league goals and don't look like creating hardly anything every game we play that the management think we are good to go
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Post by MDWat » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:24 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:22 pm
What I find amazing is that we have scored an incredible 12 league goals and don't look like creating hardly anything every game we play that the management think we are good to go
13 BOYSIE. God. You’re so negative. ;-)
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:25 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:22 pm
What I find amazing is that we have scored an incredible 12 league goals and don't look like creating hardly anything every game we play that the management think we are good to go
Completey agree

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Post by mikeS » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:27 pm

Has Henri Lansbury signed for us yet?
I guess we've missed out on Lee Trundle again.

:o

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Post by Long Time Lurker » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:31 pm

mikeS wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:27 pm
Has Henri Lansbury signed for us yet?
I guess we've missed out on Lee Trundle again.

:o
Lansbury joined Bristol City a couple of days ago :lol:

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Post by burnleymik » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:34 pm

Was really hoping we would bolster the side after Pace's initial interview and suggestions. We really seem to have a hard time getting deals over the line and it's going to bite us in the ass sooner or later. We are already playing players out of position and are threadbare in others.

Very disappointing.
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Post by CnBtruntru » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:38 pm

Everton now look favourites to sign Bournemouth forward Josh King

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Post by KlyBfc » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:39 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:04 pm
Definitely not our worst transfer window ever, but one of the most disappointing.

The club, the CEO and the new owners all raised expectations for this window, so it's natural that the fans expected us to do buisness. The big slap in the face is to find out that there was a nice little kitty tucked away which the club has used to effectively buy itself. That money could have been better spent throughout the last 5 years and would have surely made the re-build job easier than it will be now. I think those suggesting fans should be anything other than disappointed are not being very fair.
Spot on.

I wanted change not huge change but a little bravery. I liked what Pace had to say initially but words need to be followed with actions. For me it only needed one player for that hope to be fed, for it to remain, as it’s the hope that keeps me coming back.

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Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:41 pm

Can’t believe we got to 46 pages (with more undoubtedly to come).

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Post by Sproggy » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:44 pm

After all the media this weekend, this could be a bit of a PR disaster.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:45 pm

False promises by the new owners, their first priority was to help Dyche in the market, well they've failed to deliver. Like Pace said himself, actions speak louder than words, the words will soon become meaningless if theres no action to back them up. With how skint we are, I'm sure many fans are already wishing this ALK takeover didn't go through.

I wouldn't mind a little bit of manageable debt, but what benefit does this debt against the club, have on the club? This isn't debt to improve our youth system, stadium or team. The debt is simply because the new owners couldn't afford to buy the club with their own funds so are now taking cuts out of our income to pay for a football club for themselves.

So providing we remain in the PL, a % of our TV income is now needed to cover the debt, doesn't leave much remaining for transfers, if anything at all, which is why im not surprised we haven't signed anyone.

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Post by kentonclaret » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:48 pm

"Can't believe we got to 46 pages"

We got to 107 pages in the Summer :P

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Post by Milltown1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:49 pm

Probably did the club no favours ranting about agents - fair they’re a leech on the game but they’re a necessary evil. Expected one maybe two in this window but like people have mentioned his words will become empty very quickly with quotes like how much Dyche will be backed this month.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:49 pm

Interesting note from reporter this evening:

Interesting talk today about owners of newly acquired Premier League scrabbling around to raise £30m (by trying to sell equity stake at far higher valuation). Cash needed to repay debt owed to previous owner. Crazy business

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Post by claretspice » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:50 pm

Two hours to go, but as a first test of the promises made by the new Chairman, it's not a great start.

Barring a total disaster, we shouldn't go down this season, so it may well be that a quiet window doesn't prove *that* significant in and of itself.

But as everyone knows, including the chairman and the manager, the imminent rebuilding job at Burnley gets bigger with every passing window. Whilst the squad is not as thin as some make out, most would accept that it's a 4th wide option and a 4th centre half short of its fighting weight. On top of that, it's almost certain that we will need to replace at least 2 of the recent regular starting eleven before we start next summer (Tarkowski and Brady). Add the need to replace the almost certainly departing Vydra and Bardsley, and even if you take the view that you don't need 2 players for absolutely every position (a 4th striker could also be a 4th wide option if it is a more flexible player, etc.) we're still setting ourselves for quite the overhaul. And that's before raising the possibility that McNeil or Pope could be hard to keep.

Doing that sort of surgery in one window to a squad whose greatest strength is its cohesion, is a huge ask. It's getting close to the point where getting back on track is a 2-3 window challenge. Throughout that transition, we'll be more vulnerable to relegation. That was OK in the old world where we were debt free - it would have been painful but manageable. But change of ownership, whilst supposed to open up new possibilities, has a huge question mark against it in the shape of what relegation would mean.

Whatever the reasons, the fact we've made no down payment on that summer overhaul this window means that we're a bit more likely to find out the answer to that question at the end of next season.
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Post by warksclaret » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:51 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:49 pm
Probably did the club no favours ranting about agents - fair they’re a leech on the game but they’re a necessary evil. Expected one maybe two in this window but like people have mentioned his words will become empty very quickly with quotes like how much Dyche will be backed this month.
He will tell us next he has tried to buy a house and was disgusted he had to pay stamp duty

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:55 pm

claretspice wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:50 pm
Two hours to go, but as a first test of the promises made by the new Chairman, it's not a great start.

Barring a total disaster, we shouldn't go down this season, so it may well be that a quiet window doesn't prove *that* significant in and of itself.

But as everyone knows, including the chairman and the manager, the imminent rebuilding job at Burnley gets bigger with every passing window. Whilst the squad is not as thin as some make out, most would accept that it's a 4th wide option and a 4th centre half short of its fighting weight. On top of that, it's almost certain that we will need to replace at least 2 of the recent regular starting eleven before we start next summer (Tarkowski and Brady). Add the need to replace the almost certainly departing Vydra and Bardsley, and even if you take the view that you don't need 2 players for absolutely every position (a 4th striker could also be a 4th wide option if it is a more flexible player, etc.) we're still setting ourselves for quite the overhaul. And that's before raising the possibility that McNeil or Pope could be hard to keep.

Doing that sort of surgery in one window to a squad whose greatest strength is its cohesion, is a huge ask. It's getting close to the point where getting back on track is a 2-3 window challenge. Throughout that transition, we'll be more vulnerable to relegation. That was OK in the old world where we were debt free - it would have been painful but manageable. But change of ownership, whilst supposed to open up new possibilities, has a huge question mark against it in the shape of what relegation would mean.

Whatever the reasons, the fact we've made no down payment on that summer overhaul this window means that we're a bit more likely to find out the answer to that question at the end of next season.
Well said Spice 👏

Having to sign more or less an entire starting 11 in 3 or 4 windows is a recipe for disaster. We should be blending 2 or 3 younger players into the squad each transfer window so it never comes to that.

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Post by Elizabeth » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:55 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:47 pm
If we get relegated the ground becomes pointless and the squad we have lacks depth in key positions and quality in others, mainly right wing.
Well based on our performances and results , and taking in the quality of the bottom three as evidenced so far this season , May 2022 is very likely to be the next possible time we could get relegated and that is 16 months away . Crowds will be back by then enjoying proper plumbing and utilities , I bet even some great ideas implemented to get crowds going instead of the deadly quiet atmosphere that has persisted over many seasons and exists for most of each game, with the very rare exception.
If you want a quality right winger that is going to come at a big cost to the club in fees and wages to clubs and agents. Unless we go mad in the market in the summer that won’t leave much left for the other key positions you want depth in .

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:55 pm

We must be the most boring team to support in the league.

1. No shots on targets some games.
2. Same substitues every game at 70 mins+
3. Same squad every game (unless we have injuries)
4. No transfer activity to get excited about.

Offset by the odd giant killing (which is thrilling). If the new owners want to sell the Burnley brand globally, they are going to have to up the excitement surrounding the club.
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:56 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:55 pm
Well based on our performances and results , and taking in the quality of the bottom three as evidenced so far this season , May 2022 is very likely to be the next possible time we could get relegated and that is 16 months away . Crowds will be back by then enjoying proper plumbing and utilities , I bet even some great ideas implemented to get crowds going instead of the deadly quiet atmosphere that has persisted over many seasons and exists for most of each game, with the very rare exception.
If you want a quality right winger that is going to come at a big cost to the club in fees and wages to clubs and agents. Unless we go mad in the market in the summer that won’t leave much left for the other key positions you want depth in .
Please do not write this season off. If Fulham beat us here then its all to play for plus we still have to play them there. That's a 6 point swing
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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:49 pm
Interesting note from reporter this evening:

Interesting talk today about owners of newly acquired Premier League scrabbling around to raise £30m (by trying to sell equity stake at far higher valuation). Cash needed to repay debt owed to previous owner. Crazy business
Im trying to think of anothet " newly acquired Premier League " club 🤔

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Post by mikeS » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:57 pm

Damn we missed Henri Lansbury AGAIN!!
Well how about this guy? He's an American megastar, can run fast and he's got the right coloured helmet?
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Post by Fez » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:58 pm

Who'd have thought we beat the current champions a week ago :roll:

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Post by Milltown1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:58 pm

Everton and Fulham both agreed deals for Josh King

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:59 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:58 pm
Everton and Fulham both agreed deals for Josh King
Pathetic from us

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:59 pm

MDWat wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:24 pm
13 BOYSIE. God. You’re so negative. ;-)
And 5 of those came in 2 games :D :)

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:00 pm

Dara Costelloe joins and Chris Conn Clarke leaves, at U23 level

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:00 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:57 pm
Im trying to think of anothet " newly acquired Premier League " club 🤔
That’s the point there isn’t one.

The owners haven’t spent a penny in January yet they are having to flip shares just so they can afford to pay off Garlick.

Worrying times

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:00 pm

Fez wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:58 pm
Who'd have thought we beat the current champions a week ago :roll:
Relevance? Sheff United beat the top of the league (at the time) but they're still bottom 🤦‍♂️

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Post by Elizabeth » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:02 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:54 pm
Which plans for improving the stadium are these ?
You don’t think these new owners are going to improve the stadium and atmosphere ? They want to make the name of Burnley big on the international stage including America. Someone will be able to find where Pace has said as much.
The stadium and facilities are run down on most parts and I’m sure fans will react positively to such an uplift

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:03 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:59 pm
Pathetic from us
Wouldn’t have wanted him to be honest. Hope he joins Everton & not Fulham though.

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:04 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:03 pm
Wouldn’t have wanted him to be honest. Hope he joins Everton & not Fulham though.
Same. I think he could well score a few for Fulham and most likely against us

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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by dermotdermot » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:05 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:58 pm
Everton and Fulham both agreed deals for Josh King
He wouldn’t fit in and he’s simply not vey good.

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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by DomBFC1882 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:06 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:05 pm
He wouldn’t fit in and he’s simply not vey good.
You think he's worse than our current 4 strikers?

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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:07 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:00 pm
Dara Costelloe joins and Chris Conn Clarke leaves, at U23 level
Conn-Clarke was a bright hope at youth level.
Strange, but I guess he will get his career moving a bit quicker.

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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Fez » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:07 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:00 pm
Relevance? Sheff United beat the top of the league (at the time) but they're still bottom 🤦‍♂️
You're right let's all just moan and be pessimistic :roll:

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