No Help from Moss

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:08 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:46 pm
If its the one im thinking off its just 5 mins down from me and is called the Vinyl Cafe (I think). Nice little store with some decent records but not 100% thats his one

The Vinyl Whistle on Otley Road is his shop. As for his not being fit, I would love to see a lot of those criticising him carry out the fitness tests that he has to complete.
He has also played the game at a decent level and I think that he understands the game better than a lot of officials, hence the lead up to our first goal was seen as a normal sequence of play where there was physical contact but no foul.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:17 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:08 pm
The Vinyl Whistle on Otley Road is his shop.
Thats the one, if I remember they had the Red Rum Club playing live outside the front during lockdown which in normal times would be impossible as the road it opens up onto is about as busy as it gets in Leeds

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:33 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:08 pm
The Vinyl Whistle on Otley Road is his shop. As for his not being fit, I would love to see a lot of those criticising him carry out the fitness tests that he has to complete.
He has also played the game at a decent level and I think that he understands the game better than a lot of officials, hence the lead up to our first goal was seen as a normal sequence of play where there was physical contact but no foul.
I am not saying he’s majorly unfit. Compared to the average fifty year old man I’m sure he’s pretty fit.

But he’s nowhere near as fit or quick as a premier league player.

I’m also not saying I expect him to be Ronaldo. I’m saying surely there needs to be has to be some sort of incentive to get younger, fitter and ultimately quicker referees in the premier league. Perhaps of an age too where they can relate to the players and vice versa.

In a league worth billions. You should have a better pool to choose from than people twice as old as those playing it. The games only getting quicker. And a lot of these referees cannot keep up with the game. It’s not their fault.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by mkmel » Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:33 am

I too was thinking why wasn't VAR in operation

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by mdd2 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:12 am

Were we that bad getting three yellows plus Pope for time wasting? BBC stats have us committing 6 fouls-so I assume three were professional ones to Everton 9 fouls and no bookings

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:14 am

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Tribesmen » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:03 am

Hummm overcast cold and damp here this morning , ohhhhhhhhhhhhh well 3 points .

Puts a smile on your face i always say .
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Hipper » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:25 am

The Mee-Holgate handball penalty incident was in fact a foul by Mee - his arm was over Holgate's shoulder.

Fitness is just one component of refereeing. Clearly Moss is fit enough whatever he looks like. Remember you don't have to keep up with play, just be in the vicinity. You can be too close to play, not just because you might get in the way but because of better all round vision. This has been proven by studies.

This report suggests 11-15m is ideal for fewest errors:

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_Cup_2014

I recall some Dutch research saying 20m but that was a while ago. I would guess it depends on the standard of play. The pace and intensity at the top level is extraordinary in comparison with park football.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by jedi_master » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:38 am

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:42 pm
No idea, but he’s from the North East & lives in Leeds.

He’s not a headteacher. He’s a full time Premier League ref.
Having researched, he was 'interim' head teacher in Todmorden, and also a school in Halifax at least as close back as 2018.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:42 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:12 am
Were we that bad getting three yellows plus Pope for time wasting? BBC stats have us committing 6 fouls-so I assume three were professional ones to Everton 9 fouls and no bookings
It wasn’t a dirty game but Lowton, Tarks and Westwood all committed cynical fouls to prevent counter attacks and deserved their yellows. And Moss didn’t fall for Pope’s fake short goal kick routine.
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