Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

djemba-djemba · Post by **djemba-djemba** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:54 pm

WiscoClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:23 pm
I know Neco Williams plays primarily RB. Do you believe our interest in him is for a long term replacement for Bardsley and Lowton (the lovely Chesterfield Cafu) but also a short term cover for RW? If we’ve reignited any interest in Williams, and that’s a big IF, it would be potentially because Albrighton and Cornet are looking far more unlikely.

I do know that Collins can put in a shift at RB (and also as a Midfielder.)

Dyche really does like a player who can put a shift in, in multiple positions a la Erik Pieters #ep23.

Williams crossing ability is quite good, he can defend, he’s quite athletic, and with some time training with Dyche he could be a proper Burnley winger.

Now I’ll also say it would not be the most ambitious or flashy move either. It would not be a sign of intent in terms of nabbing players we REALLY want for these positions. However as another poster pointed out, sometimes our dealings in the transfer window/market are down to who’s available and who is actually willing to come.

His brother is in the academy here and is a promising talent from what I understand.

Anyway- what are your thoughts on Williams and my assessment? I’m willing to take the “you’re off your rocker.” It’s just a hunch but I’m assuming if he can play wing back he may be able to play wide in a 4-4-2.

Nah, I just want a proper winger. None of this rubbish like ‘he could do a job there’ like we have with people like Brownhill. Sign a recognised winger and play him on the wing.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:05 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:14 pm
they were, then the manager left for WBA

My mistake putting Wolves instead of WBA, but we do agree, their roller coaster might well stall with the losing of their manager. We'll have to see, but either way, it would be an excellent opportunity for Benson to progress (or maybe not) imo, as he won't progress by sitting on our bench and playing the odd 5 minutes at the end of a game.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:08 pm

If we dont sign a proper right winger this summer then serious questions need to be asked!

Parkvilla · Post by **Parkvilla** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 pm

Well we can't blame Rigg anymore and we can't blame Garlic anymore seeing as they have both gone.Seems like the same old shambles we have every transfer window.The only ever present being our manager.so is he the problem.Shopoing in the championship for British only players must surely be a very small pool,maybe that's dried up.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:27 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:05 pm
My mistake putting Wolves instead of WBA, but we do agree, their roller coaster might well stall with the losing of their manager. We'll have to see, but either way, it would be an excellent opportunity for Benson to progress (or maybe not) imo, as he won't progress by sitting on our bench and playing the odd 5 minutes at the end of a game.

yep agree 100%

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:38 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:08 pm
If we dont sign a proper right winger this summer then serious questions need to be asked!

I agree but the window hasn't shut yet, so let's just wait and see how our squad looks when it finally closes, and if we haven't recruited a genuine right-winger by that time then I'll be the first to complain vociferously, surely the manager and powers that be can see that's a glaring hole in our current squad, and it needs rectifying in this window, especially now Robbie's been released, that must free up some funds to cover wages etc, and there must be a RW somewhere that fits into our budget surely to goodness.

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:42 pm

Still a month to kick off chaps and chapettes. Chill ya beans!

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:27 pm

Parkvilla wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 pm
Well we can't blame Rigg anymore and we can't blame Garlic anymore seeing as they have both gone.Seems like the same old shambles we have every transfer window.The only ever present being our manager.so is he the problem.Shopoing in the championship for British only players must surely be a very small pool,maybe that's dried up.

It’s the 16th of July.

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:26 pm

Parkvilla wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 pm
Well we can't blame Rigg anymore and we can't blame Garlic anymore seeing as they have both gone.Seems like the same old shambles we have every transfer window.The only ever present being our manager.so is he the problem.Shopoing in the championship for British only players must surely be a very small pool,maybe that's dried up.

It’s a bit early to press the panic button!

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:02 pm

arsenal agree to pay £50m for Brighton's Ben White

https://twitter.com/SamJDean/status/1416143372197285892

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:26 am

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:02 pm
arsenal agree to pay £50m for Brighton's Ben White

https://twitter.com/SamJDean/status/1416143372197285892

Not bad value that really, he could stay at Arsenal for 10 years and he'll only get better and he's very good right now. He certainly improves them now, takes up one of the 11 spaces, long term.

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:50 am

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:02 pm
arsenal agree to pay £50m for Brighton's Ben White

https://twitter.com/SamJDean/status/1416143372197285892

That may trigger their move for Nat Phillips. They were/are linked along with us. They will have a defensive hole to fill now. Oh well....

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:13 am

Spike wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:25 pm
With Dunne and Gibson leaving and only Collins in the squad is even smaller. Alan Pace talking about all sorts but needs to get to grips with strength of the First Team .

Gibson was last in the squad (even for training) in January 2020. His absence doesn't reduce the squad size at all.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:09 am

Not seen much of white is he any better than Rob holding?

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:29 am

White is really good but he’s a defender, 23, and has one season’s experience at the top level. Granted he’s got an England cap but what does that put McNeil’s value at?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:41 am

Parkvilla wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 pm
Well we can't blame Rigg anymore and we can't blame Garlic anymore seeing as they have both gone.Seems like the same old shambles we have every transfer window.The only ever present being our manager.so is he the problem.Shopoing in the championship for British only players must surely be a very small pool,maybe that's dried up.

100% of our first team signings so far this window aren't British.

djemba-djemba · Post by **djemba-djemba** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:57 am

So remind me - is the latest so far (excluding those who are going to be in the u23s):

In: Collins
Out: Dunne, Brady, Gibson

Am I missing anyone from there?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:09 am

MDWat wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:29 am
White is really good but he’s a defender, 23, and has one season’s experience at the top level. Granted he’s got an England cap but what does that put McNeil’s value at?

£20 Million according to some on here and they're apparently being serious when they say that.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:26 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:09 am
£20 Million according to some on here and they're apparently being serious when they say that.

Those guys

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:49 am

CFS wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:09 am
Not seen much of white is he any better than Rob holding?

Yes a hell of a lot better.

I reckon in a couple seasons time White could be one of the best CBs in the league and will have probably moved to United or City

Claret_tinted · Post by **Claret_tinted** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:20 am

MDWat wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:29 am
White is really good but he’s a defender, 23, and has one season’s experience at the top level. Granted he’s got an England cap but what does that put McNeil’s value at?

As a CB about £500k

Claret_tinted · Post by **Claret_tinted** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:21 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:49 am
Yes a hell of a lot better.

I reckon in a couple seasons time White could be one of the best CBs in the league and will have probably moved to United or City

Ala Ake.

Claret_tinted · Post by **Claret_tinted** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:22 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:09 am
£20 Million according to some on here and they're apparently being serious when they say that.

Plus add ons

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:34 am

Not many rumours on here for a rumours thread.
Then again Nixon is off air so that explains it

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:42 am

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:43 pm
Nixon is currently on a one man boycott of social media

yet he refused to support the recent boycott

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:12 pm

Hes a horrible individual.the way he responds to people.
But he seems to get information.

leightonjameslegend · Post by **leightonjameslegend** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:29 pm

There is still plenty of time until the window closes at the end of August. We have moved early to get Collins and as others have said it's a waiting game with deals at other clubs opening up possibilities. For those panicking there has been a total of 40 Deals in the prem including loans and signing old loans permanently. By far the busiest clubs have been Watford and Norwich with their typical scatter gun approach. Brentford is yet to make a signing as are Newcastle, Man City, Chelsea, Everton and Spurs.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:58 pm

We are linked to West Ham winger Andriy Yarmolenko, in the last 12 months of his contract available for 3 million that's a massive difference to the almost 20 million West Ham paid for him 3 years ago

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:00 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:58 pm
We are linked to West Ham winger Andriy Yarmolenko, in the last 12 months of his contract available for 3 million that's a massive difference to the almost 20 million West Ham paid for him 3 years ago

To be fair that’s as reliable source as you get. I hope it happens

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:11 pm

Surely won’t get anywhere near his wages

brunlea99 · Post by **brunlea99** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:25 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:58 pm
We are linked to West Ham winger Andriy Yarmolenko, in the last 12 months of his contract available for 3 million that's a massive difference to the almost 20 million West Ham paid for him 3 years ago

The article doesn't say he is "available for 3 million" rather "The Clarets are plotting an offer of £3m".

https://insidefutbol.com/2021/07/17/bur ... ar/518493/

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:25 pm

Good player but same age as Albrighton and always injured

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:28 pm

leightonjameslegend wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:29 pm
There is still plenty of time until the window closes at the end of August. We have moved early to get Collins and as others have said it's a waiting game with deals at other clubs opening up possibilities. For those panicking there has been a total of 40 Deals in the prem including loans and signing old loans permanently. By far the busiest clubs have been Watford and Norwich with their typical scatter gun approach. Brentford is yet to make a signing as are Newcastle, Man City, Chelsea, Everton and Spurs.

All the signings are listed at
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55063

There have been 60 with only Chelsea, Everton, Man City and Spurs not having made a signing.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:32 pm

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:12 pm
Hes a horrible individual.the way he responds to people.
But he seems to get information.

Nixon is involved with agents

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/ ... publishing

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:37 pm

Not seen Yarmolenko pull up any trees for West Ham or Ukraine. They are apparently prepared to take a massive hit on his transfer fee.
Not sure where he'd play as although Wiki states he's a winger cum forward. I am not sure he is either.

Edit: Getting him confused with someone else

. Can see the interest if true.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:37 pm

Would like Yarmolenko but reports he’s on 100k a week so not sure how we manage to get near that.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:42 pm

Burnley in advanced contract talks with Nick Pope in bid to fend off transfer interest from Premier League rivals
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-24554785

"Burnley are in advanced talks with Nick Pope over a new deal at Turf Moor.

The 29-year-old, who missed out on England’s Euro campaign through injury, has established himself as one of the top keepers in the Premier League in recent seasons.

And Burnley are keen to tie him down to a lucrative long-term deal to fend off interest from rival clubs.

Pope still has two years to run on the contract he signed in 2019, with the option of a further year.

But he is a huge part of Sean Dyche’s team and the club are keen to get his long-term future wrapped up.

Pope joined Charlton from Suffolk side Bury Town in 2011 and moved to Burnley five years later as understudy to Tom Heaton before ultimately replacing him as No.1."

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:42 pm
Burnley in advanced contract talks with Nick Pope in bid to fend off transfer interest from Premier League rivals
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-24554785

"Burnley are in advanced talks with Nick Pope over a new deal at Turf Moor.

The 29-year-old, who missed out on England’s Euro campaign through injury, has established himself as one of the top keepers in the Premier League in recent seasons.

And Burnley are keen to tie him down to a lucrative long-term deal to fend off interest from rival clubs.

Pope still has two years to run on the contract he signed in 2019, with the option of a further year.

But he is a huge part of Sean Dyche’s team and the club are keen to get his long-term future wrapped up.

Pope joined Charlton from Suffolk side Bury Town in 2011 and moved to Burnley five years later as understudy to Tom Heaton before ultimately replacing him as No.1."

This would be great news.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:50 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:00 pm
To be fair that’s as reliable source as you get. I hope it happens

Who's the source?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:56 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:58 pm
We are linked to West Ham winger Andriy Yarmolenko, in the last 12 months of his contract available for 3 million that's a massive difference to the almost 20 million West Ham paid for him 3 years ago

West Ham are taking some massive hits on their signings in an effort to get rid of some.
One lad, Felipe Anderson, has just gone back to Lazio for £3 million after West Ham had paid them £30 million couple of years ago.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:00 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:56 pm
West Ham are taking some massive hits on their signings in an effort to get rid of some.
One lad, Felipe Anderson, has just gone back to Lazio for £3 million after West Ham had paid them £30 million couple of years ago.

Probably got something to do with the £5.2m Yarmilenko allegedly earns. Who wouldn’t want that off their wage bill? Can’t see him coming here if he expects to maintain his salary!

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:09 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:00 pm
Probably got something to do with the £5.2m Yarmilenko allegedly earns. Who wouldn’t want that off their wage bill? Can’t see him coming here if he expects to maintain his salary!

To be fair West Ham spent a shed load on players they couldn't really afford. We could offset the wages with a signing bonus to bring him in line with other earners. We've done it before. They keep throwing sh*t at a wall and hoping some of it sticks.
They're the typical Premier League club wannabe big club and to appease the fans they keep buying players who don't fit their framework. West Ham fans have this strange opinion that they're bigger than they are.
Alas. They're not. If it's true, it's doable. The question is. Can he defend?

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:11 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:00 pm
Probably got something to do with the £5.2m Yarmilenko allegedly earns. Who wouldn’t want that off their wage bill? Can’t see him coming here if he expects to maintain his salary!

Might do if he gets a huge payoff from West ham like Joe Hart got from city.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:24 pm

This from the Nixon article made me chuckle...

"I respect him and I hope he respects me," Nixon explained. "He'll always pick up the phone to a journalist."
Mr Stretford could not be reached for comment.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:39 pm

Can see Yarmalenko choosing Turkey over a lesser contract at Burnley, although he doesn’t strike me as a player we’d want for some reason. He’s too injury prone for us to commit a big wage towards in my opinion

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:56 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:42 pm
Burnley in advanced contract talks with Nick Pope in bid to fend off transfer interest from Premier League rivals
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-24554785

"Burnley are in advanced talks with Nick Pope over a new deal at Turf Moor.

The 29-year-old, who missed out on England’s Euro campaign through injury, has established himself as one of the top keepers in the Premier League in recent seasons.

And Burnley are keen to tie him down to a lucrative long-term deal to fend off interest from rival clubs.

Pope still has two years to run on the contract he signed in 2019, with the option of a further year.

But he is a huge part of Sean Dyche’s team and the club are keen to get his long-term future wrapped up.

Pope joined Charlton from Suffolk side Bury Town in 2011 and moved to Burnley five years later as understudy to Tom Heaton before ultimately replacing him as No.1."

Could be our most important signing of the summer if we can get NP to commit to staying long term, he's the one member of the squad we can ill afford to lose, even if he does generate a large transfer fee.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:30 pm

My West Ham season ticket mate:

"He's a good player but doesn't get a game anymore for us. Moyes isn't keen on him I guess. I'd love to see him go. He's on huge wages and we should get rid whilst we can get money for him. Turns up 1 in 10 games hence why Moyes wants rid

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:39 pm

Pope's already got 3 years left, the most we are going to get is a 12 month extension.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:42 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:39 pm
Pope's already got 3 years left, the most we are going to get is a 12 month extension.

not really, they can change his remaining 3 years so he earns more money

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:30 pm
My West Ham season ticket mate:

"He's a good player but doesn't get a game anymore for us. Moyes isn't keen on him I guess. I'd love to see him go. He's on huge wages and we should get rid whilst we can get money for him. Turns up 1 in 10 games hence why Moyes wants rid

It appears he is off to Fenerbahce for as little as £2m according to the Sunday gossip column on the Beeb.