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Post by Targetman » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:55 pm
The end of the day it’s a discussion thread. If you have heard something and think it’s worth sharing, why not.
Even if you know it isn't true?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:20 pm

Targetman wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:18 pm
Even if you know it isn't true?
I don’t think anyone knows if it is or isn’t true.

As the poster highlighted that guy was pretty spot on with Townsend and it looks like he was one of the first to post it.

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Post by minnieclaret » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:39 pm

How are we linked with Yarmolenko again?
He was going to Fenerbahce for £2m yesterday

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:47 pm

All is Dross!

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Post by KateR » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:51 pm

enjoyed reading this, which is part of an analysis regarding McNeil and Everton comparing with other potential buys, but no mention of DG or AT in this.

https://www.toffeetvefc.com/mcneil-chuk ... r-targets/

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Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:44 am

Brighton to offer £15m for Liverpool's Phillips

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Post by Blyclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:16 am

This cant be true. Sure he coming on loan to us.
A chat on here posted a twitter account saying he was shopping in Burnley before loan deal was announced.
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Post by MACCA » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:47 am

Demarai Gray expected to undergo a medical at Evertin in a 1.5m deal from Leverkusen, and no I've not got the decimal in the wrong place.

Very cheap, and the type of player I always want us to be looking at
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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:01 am

MACCA wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:47 am
Demarai Gray expected to undergo a medical at Evertin in a 1.5m deal from Leverkusen, and no I've not got the decimal in the wrong place.

Very cheap, and the type of player I always want us to be looking at

Looking and acting are two entirely different things.

Perhaps the player doesn't fit the profile and criteria outlined by Dyche?

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Post by Spijed » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:05 am

MACCA wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:47 am
Demarai Gray expected to undergo a medical at Evertin in a 1.5m deal from Leverkusen, and no I've not got the decimal in the wrong place.

Very cheap, and the type of player I always want us to be looking at
Why would they let him go so cheaply unless it's clear he isn't living up to the promise he had as a younger player?

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Post by superdimitri » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:17 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:44 am
Brighton to offer £15m for Liverpool's Phillips
This is our issue nowadays. Not only are we being priced out of players by top 10 sides we're now priced out by fellow relegation rivals.

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Post by Spijed » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:20 am

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:17 am
This is our issue nowadays. Not only are we being priced out of players by top 10 sides we're now priced out by fellow relegation rivals.
Why would we need any more defenders though If Tarkowski stays?

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Post by MACCA » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:21 am

Spijed wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:05 am
Why would they let him go so cheaply unless it's clear he isn't living up to the promise he had as a younger player?
Possibly struggling to adapt in a foreign country with the language and culture.

Think that's a very cheap price for someone who has over 120 appearances for Leicester, over 200 in his career to date and is still only 25.
Not saying we could have beaten Everton to his signature, but could be a great bit of business.

To put it into context we paid way more than that for the likes of Walter's, Wells, Sordell, Juke etc.

Whether it turns out to be good business time will tell, but a pacy, direct English player with decent stats in the premier league usually commands a lot more, youd struggle to get a league 1 player with those attributes for 1.5m.

Hopefully we are looking at someone similar, we are crying out for someone like him IMO

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Post by dsr » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:26 am

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:17 am
This is our issue nowadays. Not only are we being priced out of players by top 10 sides we're now priced out by fellow relegation rivals.
Brighton's owner puts over £50m into the club each year.

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:36 am

Spijed wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:05 am
Why would they let him go so cheaply unless it's clear he isn't living up to the promise he had as a younger player?

Yeah, a right mug that Benitez chasing Dwight McNeil as well according to latest reports in the media. :x
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Post by SalisburyClaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:39 am

We’ve missed out on Demarai Gray - phew - this is turning into the best Transfer Window for a long time
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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:46 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:39 am
We’ve missed out on Demarai Gray - phew - this is turning into the best Transfer Window for a long time
Begovic, Gray & Townsend; wonder how the Everton fans are finding those signings after Benitez?

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:58 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:46 am
Begovic, Gray & Townsend; wonder how the Everton fans are finding those signings after Benitez?
And Dwight McNeil for £25m would just top it all off :x

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Post by SalisburyClaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:15 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:46 am
Begovic, Gray & Townsend; wonder how the Everton fans are finding those signings after Benitez?
I’m sure they’ll be pleased with Townsend (well as pleased as an Everton fan can be). But the other 2 bench warmers will set them off moaning like a Preston fan

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Post by duncandisorderly » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:29 am

Demarai Gray sounds like a tea.

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Post by Socrates » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:33 am

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:17 am
This is our issue nowadays. Not only are we being priced out of players by top 10 sides we're now priced out by fellow relegation rivals.
We agreed to pay £15 million for Ben Gibson and have just paid £12 million for Collins.

We’ve paid that much or nearly that much for defenders before. How are we priced out?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:44 am

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:33 am
We agreed to pay £15 million for Ben Gibson and have just paid £12 million for Collins.

We’ve paid that much or nearly that much for defenders before. How are we priced out?
If you look at the bigger picture then you’ll understand it doesn’t necessarily boil down to whether we can afford to meet the transfer fee within itself, can we really afford to go toe to toe with wages competing with Everton or somebody else, when we have premier league competition we will always struggle to be the first choice in many ways even financially aside the player also needs to have that desire to move relatively local to this part of the northwest. As soon as you hear targets being linked with other clubs from credible sources you might as well just forget the target & move on.

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:48 am

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:17 am
This is our issue nowadays. Not only are we being priced out of players by top 10 sides we're now priced out by fellow relegation rivals.
It’s always been the case. Brighton have just sold Ben White to Arsenal for £40m and replaced him with Philips for £15m. Good business, simples.
We might have done the same, had Tarks moved early doors, but would have had to have beaten our own record transfer fee to better Brighton’s offer.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:51 am

Been already mentioned, but needs mentioning again

Brighton have an owner who bank rolls the club to the tune of about £50 million a season.

They have been top 4 in transfer spend the past couple of seasons

They are in the same league as us, but not financially

Hope that helps

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:00 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:51 am
Been already mentioned, but needs mentioning again

Brighton have an owner who bank rolls the club to the tune of about £50 million a season.

They have been top 4 in transfer spend the past couple of seasons

They are in the same league as us, but not financially

Hope that helps
Im sure Ive read somewhere theyve been one of the bigest nett spenders in Europe, not just the Premier League, in the past few seasons.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:02 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:51 am
Been already mentioned, but needs mentioning again

Brighton have an owner who bank rolls the club to the tune of about £50 million a season.

They have been top 4 in transfer spend the past couple of seasons

They are in the same league as us, but not financially

Hope that helps
Is that not the point the poster was implying? Off course we can’t compete we must be one of if not the only club that has to fund transfers by the money we raise.

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Post by Socrates » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:03 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:44 am
If you look at the bigger picture then you’ll understand it doesn’t necessarily boil down to whether we can afford to meet the transfer fee within itself, can we really afford to go toe to toe with wages competing with Everton or somebody else, when we have premier league competition we will always struggle to be the first choice in many ways even financially aside the player also needs to have that desire to move relatively local to this part of the northwest. As soon as you hear targets being linked with other clubs from credible sources you might as well just forget the target & move on.
But that wasn’t the point. The point was we couldn’t compete with Brighton ….. where’ve you pulled Everton from?

And the rest of it …. absolute tutt. Brownhill was closely linked with West Ham before coming here, Collins linked with a load of clubs.

Look at our accounts. We pay damn good money. This “we can’t compete” talk is absolute hogwash.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:04 am

Hennessey confirmed

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:09 am

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:03 am
But that wasn’t the point. The point was we couldn’t compete with Brighton ….. where’ve you pulled Everton from?

And the rest of it …. absolute tutt. Brownhill was closely linked with West Ham before coming here, Collins linked with a load of clubs.

Look at our accounts. We pay damn good money. This “we can’t compete” talk is absolute hogwash.
We can’t compete it really is that simple.

We literally have the 28th lowest spend in the last 5 seasons.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:09 am

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:03 am
But that wasn’t the point. The point was we couldn’t compete with Brighton ….. where’ve you pulled Everton from?

And the rest of it …. absolute tutt. Brownhill was closely linked with West Ham before coming here, Collins linked with a load of clubs.

Look at our accounts. We pay damn good money. This “we can’t compete” talk is absolute hogwash.
If we can compete why do we lose so many targets? Why do so many players we are interested in decide to go elsewhere?

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Post by Jimscho » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:10 am

So now we have Englands no 1 keeper,Wales no.1 keeper and N.I. keeper.When is Scotland keeper signing?

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:12 am

We can still survive by being smart and shrewd in the transfer market (its the only way we can compete). We are not the biggest payers in the PL by any means but suspect not the worst. We can offer players PL football (if good enough a start in most games), and we have survived 6 successive seasons which gives further confidence. For players like Collins the first genuine opportunity of playing PL football. For someone who has played predominantly PL football ie Hennessy, Westwood, Stephen Ward, Cork an opportunity to stay in the PL. Its not all bad at BFC

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:15 am

Wages take up a huge chunk of our budget, which of course affects the transfer policy

Am surprised we've not been a lot more active in the free transfer market, as more and more players are coming out of contract (suspect we have been, but we've just not managed to get our targets)

Be interested to see what happens if we still can't bring anyone in within the next couple of weeks, because that will mean we'd really see just how committed the new owners are to reinforcing the squad.

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:15 am

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:03 am
But that wasn’t the point. The point was we couldn’t compete with Brighton ….. where’ve you pulled Everton from?

And the rest of it …. absolute tutt. Brownhill was closely linked with West Ham before coming here, Collins linked with a load of clubs.

Look at our accounts. We pay damn good money. This “we can’t compete” talk is absolute hogwash.
So, Sean Dyche was speaking absolute hogwash when stating on numerous occasions that he was operating on a tight budget but that he expects there to be more stretch in the finances under the new ownership?

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:24 am

Burnley have a big reputation for attracting/ developing goalkeepers and defenders - Pope, Heaton, Hart, Trippier, Keane, Tarks, Mee etc. The most notable failure being Gibson, but even he was originally attracted to the prospect of playing for Burnley. Therefore it’s very clear why Collins has made the move.

Brownhill’s move was a very lucky and astute bit of business between the two cubs. Bristol City desperately needed a goal scoring forward and we wanted a young, athletic midfielder. Burnley were keen to off-load Wells and balanced the deal with a sizeable transfer fee for local boy Brownhill. All very neat and tidy.

Where Burnley can’t compete any more is in attracting the serious strikers and playmakers. Not hogwash but reality.
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Post by BobLordsPencil » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:35 am

Oh yeah, Harts career would never have taken off if it wasn't wasn't Burnley! :lol:

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:48 am

Hart was and still is a highly thought of keeper (No.2 at Spurs). He was an outcast at West Ham and was keen enough to see the benefits of working at Burnley - even though we had Pope, Heaton and Anders Lindegaard.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:53 am

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:48 am
Hart was and still is a highly thought of keeper (No.2 at Spurs). He was an outcast at West Ham and was keen enough to see the benefits of working at Burnley - even though we had Pope, Heaton and Anders Lindegaard.
Hart is now going to Spurs number 3 goal keeper, they are in the process of signing the Atalanta keeper

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:20 pm

Jimscho wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:10 am
So now we have Englands no 1 keeper,Wales no.1 keeper and N.I. keeper.When is Scotland keeper signing?
When we need a new pie seller. But he'd probably drop them to be honest.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:27 pm

Lukas Jensen has joined Carlisle on a season long loan

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Post by Socrates » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:29 pm

All you people saying we can’t compete ……

If we can’t, how do you explain our performances over the last six years? Literally every player we have we signed from somewhere else, with the exception of Dwight.

If we can’t compete that means that we were the only club in for every player we signed. But we’ve also apparently got a terrible scouting department.

So we’ve either got a terrible scouting department which was the only one in the world who identified these players who are capable of playing and thriving in the Premier League …..

Or

We can compete. It’s just hard.

I think I know where my thoughts are.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:32 pm

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:29 pm
All you people saying we can’t compete ……

If we can’t, how do you explain our performances over the last six years? Literally every player we have we signed from somewhere else, with the exception of Dwight.

If we can’t compete that means that we were the only club in for every player we signed. But we’ve also apparently got a terrible scouting department.

So we’ve either got a terrible scouting department which was the only one in the world who identified these players who are capable of playing and thriving in the Premier League …..

Or

We can compete. It’s just hard.

I think I know where my thoughts are.
There's a third option, which many on here believe.

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Post by joey13 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:38 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:02 am
Is that not the point the poster was implying? Off course we can’t compete we must be one of if not the only club that has to fund transfers by the money we raise.
We did have money to compete unfortunately that ended up in previous directors pockets

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:07 pm

joey13 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:38 pm
We did have money to compete unfortunately that ended up in previous directors pockets
if you think a one off circa £30m would allow us to compete on an even level you do not understand the finances of the Premier League

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Post by minnieclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:13 pm

Have Everton designed a new pitch? Signing 3 wingers!!

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Post by duncandisorderly » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:25 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:13 pm
Have Everton designed a new pitch? Signing 3 wingers!!
I think there's a reasonable chance that one of their midfielders will unavailable for quite some time.

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Post by claretblue » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:36 pm

Jimscho wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:10 am
So now we have Englands no 1 keeper,Wales no.1 keeper and N.I. keeper.When is Scotland keeper signing?
do Scotland have a No 1 keeper? :?

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Post by joey13 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:15 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:07 pm
if you think a one off circa £30m would allow us to compete on an even level you do not understand the finances of the Premier League
30 million, aye ok then :roll:

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:26 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:07 pm
if you think a one off circa £30m would allow us to compete on an even level you do not understand the finances of the Premier League

Perhaps we'll fare better with a on-off circa £25m for Dwight.

Or is that destined for directors bank accounts also? :x

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:44 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:00 am
Im sure Ive read somewhere theyve been one of the bigest nett spenders in Europe, not just the Premier League, in the past few seasons.
https://www.90min.com/posts/european-cl ... -barcelona

11th highest in Europe....
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