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[Mattster]

Burnley FCs Official Transfer Strategy 2019 Onwards

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[ClaretAndJew]

Burnley FCs Official Transfer Strategy 2019 Onwards

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Isn't that also our on field tactics too?

[Jakubclaret]

Why on earth would we offer Lennon 35k?! He’s mid thirties and clearly struggling to find a club. If Dyche really wants him then fine, but he should be on a fraction of that with perhaps a bonus for appearances, or better still a bonus for goals and assists, that should keep the powder dry.

No idea but that’s what he’s meant to be earning, to be honest I think all footballers are overpaid but that’s probably another debate on another thread for another day.

[brexit]

All decidedly average.

Probably but compared with Lennon?

[hoskinsgoalatswansea]

No idea but that’s what he’s meant to be earning, to be honest I think all footballers are overpaid but that’s probably another debate on another thread for another day.

I agree, but I said that with the relativity of today’s wages in mind. I doubt anyone else would be offering him anywhere near that.

[jojomk1]

Probably but compared with Lennon?

A crucial signing

He will pad out the squad - great vision Sean

[warksclaret]

If we are as skint as I think we are why not keep his wage to put towards a stellar right wing signing. Its clear we are not close to signing anyone and signing Lennon is desperation. I did not go to the game today but reading the report on the club website it sounds like Cadiz put up a formidable defensive display which we could not break down. The PL has good defences across the majority of the teams. Our problem will be with having Lennon, JBG, Cork and Brownhill in our team we will struggle to break these teams down and score.When we get it to our forwards 3 of the 4 lack any pace. I am not surprised SD is stalling

[s6t9a2f3f]

Bottom line is we are a Premier League club with a mid Championship club finances

[Blyclaret]

I think we signed Collins with £8 mill from sale of Gibson
Plus Benson and Dunne sales.
And i agree i think theres no money available.
Pace a very smooth talker but so far talks the talk but cant walk the walk.

[tiger76]

Why on earth would we offer Lennon 35k?! He’s mid thirties and clearly struggling to find a club. If Dyche really wants him then fine, but he should be on a fraction of that with perhaps a bonus for appearances, or better still a bonus for goals and assists, that should keep the powder dry.

I'm not totally against the return of Lennon, but we shouldn't even be entertaining paying him anywhere near £35k, if he wants to rejoin then fine, but it should be on the clubs terms not his, and as you correctly state he's the one who's out of work, therefore he should be on a strictly performance related contract, if he doesn't agree to those conditions than fine let him find himself another club if he's so in demand, and let's see him many takers he gets.

What baffles me is how we can't find a suitable RW at a reasonable fee and salary in the entire FL, SFL, or even dare I say it further afield, surely the lure of PL football should be a powerful pull for any perspective signings shouldn't it, and it also makes you wonder precisely what the point of the development squads are if promising players such as Mancini are never going to be given a chance.

Now if we signed Lennon on a short term deal, and also brought in another winger in addition then ok, but Lennon alone would be underwhelming to say the least, and it's hardly building for the future is it, so you do have to wonder precisely what our transfer strategy is these days,

[Spijed]

Alan Nixon
@reluctantnicko

Little update in morning …

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@reluctantnicko Al, anything at all on the Cornet transfer....are the Clarets still interested....could Lennon be offered a contract. Not really the answer.

[TsarBomba]

I don’t like the idea of Lennon returning, really.

I can stomach it though if it frees up the money to get Cornet/Lookman/MN.

I completely agree that we kicking the can down the road again, but we don’t have much choice at the moment.

We don’t have the finance to make wholesale changes to our squad, so the best we can hope to do is every window refresh the squad with 1-2 younger signings.

Ultimately, that’s the position we’ve been left in by Garlick, and not the fault of ALK.

[boatshed bill]

Bottom line is we are a Premier League club with a mid Championship club finances

Or worse?

[ksrclaret]

Bottom line is we are a Premier League club with a mid Championship club finances

Probably not even that. It's been obvious we cannot financially complete at this level, or even the top half of the level below, for some time now.

It was hoped that the takeover might provide some headroom. In our dreams.

[boatshed bill]

Probably not even that. It's been obvious we cannot financially complete at this level, or even the top half of the level below, for some time now.

It was hoped that the takeover might provide some headroom. In our dreams.

Who ratifies these take-overs?
I thought the buyers had to show proof that they have the necessary funds.

[Wembley09]

It's a poor do when a team like Brentford comes up and starts throwing money around, while we've been here much longer and still scrape the bottom of the barrell waiting for what's left over.

We've always been bigger than them, even in our struggling Championship days.. we'd beat the League One Brentford in the FA Cup.

[Spijed]

It's a poor do when a team like Brentford comes up and starts throwing money around, while we've been here much longer and still scrape the bottom of the barrell waiting for what's left over.

We've always been bigger than them, even in our struggling Championship days.. we'd beat the League One Brentford in the FA Cup.

Fulham threw money around last season...

[ClaretAndJew]

It's a poor do when a team like Brentford comes up and starts throwing money around, while we've been here much longer and still scrape the bottom of the barrell waiting for what's left over.

We've always been bigger than them, even in our struggling Championship days.. we'd beat the League One Brentford in the FA Cup.

Their owner has a personal wealth of over $300 million.

[TsarBomba]

Probably not even that. It's been obvious we cannot financially complete at this level, or even the top half of the level below, for some time now.

It was hoped that the takeover might provide some headroom. In our dreams.

But the headroom is likely to be the increase in revenues that ALK are hoping to bring about, and which are already evident in their new commercial deals. This will take time to filter down.

There was never going to be a takeover of Burnley that meant we would start splashing the cash.

And remember, with the complete breakdown between Dyche and Garlick, something had to give. It was either Garlick or Dyche.

[Wembley09]

Their owner has a personal wealth of over $300 million.

Ah that explains alot then.
Shame about our new takeover which was supposed to give Dyche money to spend.

[tiger76]

I don’t like the idea of Lennon returning, really.

I can stomach it though if it frees up the money to get Cornet/Lookman/MN.

I completely agree that we kicking the can down the road again, but we don’t have much choice at the moment.

We don’t have the finance to make wholesale changes to our squad, so the best we can hope to do is every window refresh the squad with 1-2 younger signings.

Ultimately, that’s the position we’ve been left in by Garlick, and not the fault of ALK.

I agree to an extent, however we have 9 first teamers out of contract next summer, although the club does have the option of another year with Barnes, Cork & Mee, so assuming they all stay,, and Tarks decides to go, that leaves the following who may leave.

Bardsley
Jay Rod
Pieters
Stephens
Vydra

Out of those 5 I guess we'll let Bards & Stephens go, Pieters we may try and keep he's a steady eddie type which SD likes, Jay and Vyd's is a difficult one, both offer us something different up front, but in terms of goals neither is exactly prolific.

The point is that if we don't refresh the squad in this window, we'll likely need to perform major surgery next year, so sooner or later we'll need to inject fresh blood into the building.

Sadly this is the upshot of several poor windows, and the blame has to be laid at the managers door as well as Garlick's.

[ClaretAndJew]

Ah that explains alot then.
Shame about our new takeover which was supposed to give Dyche money to spend.

There will be money to spend, but as always, within a framework and budget. We have been taken over by massively wealthy people, just very experienced businessmen.

[ksrclaret]

But the headroom is likely to be the increase in revenues that ALK are hoping to bring about, and which are already evident in their new commercial deals. This will take time to filter down.

There was never going to be a takeover of Burnley that meant we would start splashing the cash.

And remember, with the complete breakdown between Dyche and Garlick, something had to give. It was either Garlick or Dyche.

The state of the squad necessitates that there be some instant investment into improving the first team. If the plan is to slowly generate the funds needed through the commercial side then the huge risk is that it comes too late. Much harder to sell a championship product than a premier league product.

[Devils_Advocate]

Fulham threw money around last season...

Fulham spent less last year than we did after our second promotion to the Prem

[Jakubclaret]

I don’t like the idea of Lennon returning, really.

I can stomach it though if it frees up the money to get Cornet/Lookman/MN.

I completely agree that we kicking the can down the road again, but we don’t have much choice at the moment.

We don’t have the finance to make wholesale changes to our squad, so the best we can hope to do is every window refresh the squad with 1-2 younger signings.

Ultimately, that’s the position we’ve been left in by Garlick, and not the fault of ALK.

True, but when ALK took over some sort of research must have been carried out in terms of assessing the squad ages & consideration into improving that & lowering the ages, a point must be reached when we can stop blaming MG & hold ALK accountable.

[DCWat]

Their owner has a personal wealth of over $300 million.

That’s a pittance in the scheme of things.

An owner with $300 million will soon be skint if he’s using that for signings in the Premier League.

[Chester Perry]

Shame about our new takeover which was supposed to give Dyche money to spend.

was it?

[TsarBomba]

The state of the squad necessitates that there be some instant investment into improving the first team. If the plan is to slowly generate the funds needed through the commercial side then the huge risk is that it comes too late. Much harder to sell a championship product than a premier league product.

It’s an incredibly fine balancing act for Pace to perform. Yes, there needs to be investment, but ultimately, it needs to be within what we can afford, and sustainable. I have no doubt Pace is doing his best to support Dyche.

There will be a hope that Dyche can perform another miracle this season, which will give ALK a bit of breathing space to get more money into the club.

[tiger76]

Fulham spent less last year than we did after our second promotion to the Prem

On purely transfer fees that's probably true, however I'd guess they spent a fair whack of wages for those loan players they got in.

[Wembley09]

There will be money to spend, but as always, within a framework and budget. We have been taken over by massively wealthy people, just very experienced businessmen.

I sincerely hope so.

[Wembley09]

was it?

Burnley's new American owners vow to back Dyche in transfer market

https://www.eurosport.com/football/prem ... tory.shtml

[Devils_Advocate]

On purely transfer fees that's probably true, however I'd guess they spent a fair whack of wages for those loan players they got in.

Id guess Fulhams wage bill last year was one of the lowest in the division like us. The first time they came up they crazily tried to buy a new team and undermined their manager but last year their spend was nothing out of the ordinary for a promoted side

[ksrclaret]

It’s an incredibly fine balancing act for Pace to perform. Yes, there needs to be investment, but ultimately, it needs to be within what we can afford, and sustainable. I have no doubt Pace is doing his best to support Dyche.

There will be a hope that Dyche can perform another miracle this season, which will give ALK a bit of breathing space to get more money into the club.

Bizarre that he took on the ownership with such a perilous model.

[TsarBomba]

True, but when ALK took over some sort of research must have been carried out in terms of assessing the squad ages & consideration into improving that & lowering the ages, a point must be reached when we can stop blaming MG & hold ALK accountable.

The repercussions of failing to strengthen for 6/8 windows is going to be felt for years to come, and it will be ALK who have the unenviable task of trying to sort it out.

It’s criminal that we’ve allowed this to happen, and if it does come home to roost in the form of relegation, (which it probably would have done already without Dyche performing minor miracles), then that won’t be at ALK’s door.

[TsarBomba]

Bizarre that he took on the ownership with such a perilous model.

Agree.

[Devils_Advocate]

The repercussions of failing to strengthen for 6/8 windows is going to be felt for years to come, and it will be ALK who have the unenviable task of trying to sort it out.

It’s criminal that we’ve allowed this to happen, and if it does come home to roost in the form of relegation, (which it probably would have done already without Dyche performing minor miracles), then that won’t be at ALK’s door.

We lived within our means and stayed debt free. Our journey in the Prem will end someday soon but under Garlick the club was secure and well placed o adjust to being a Championship club

The repercussions we should most fear is if we go down with a large debt, throw everything at getting back up and fail and then potential see the club left in financial difficulties that put us at risk

Hopefully AKLs gamble will pay off but I much preferred the debt free model under Garlick as did most of this board up until recently and in fact we often gloated how brilliant a run club we was to play in the top league with no debt and no sugar daddies bank rolling us

[Newcastleclaret93]

The repercussions of failing to strengthen for 6/8 windows is going to be felt for years to come, and it will be ALK who have the unenviable task of trying to sort it out.

It’s criminal that we’ve allowed this to happen, and if it does come home to roost in the form of relegation, (which it probably would have done already without Dyche performing minor miracles), then that won’t be at ALK’s door.

Let’s be honest this is just not accurate. We signed 4 players in 19/20 season for the first team squad. Brownhill, Rodriguez, Pieters and Peacock Farrell. Il also add this was for a combined fee of 22m (roughly).

We only had last summer where we signed 1 player and that was Stephens. (Not counting Norris).

The only transfer window we have had under Dyche with no signings for the first team has come under ALKs tenure.

I am sure ALK will be trying there best to do business but it’s incredibly difficult to anything with wages as high as they are (something Garlick got butchered for trying to lower).

I suspect we will see Lennon and maybe 1 first teamer come in this window. Dyche Will have to work a miracle but as other posters have mentioned that gives ALK time to increase revenue.

No idea where it leaves our club if we go down but I guess there’s not a lot else we can do.
The only transfer window we have had has been under ALK

[RVclaret]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... on-cornet/

Nixon reporting that Lookman isn’t too keen on moving to us despite us being willing to pay the wages and loan fee. So we will try to get to Lyons 15m asking fee for Cornet.

Shame about Lookman but maybe wants a London club and better style of play.

[jedi_master]

Nixon says Lookman doesn’t want to come and we ‘might’ now try and make an offer for Cornet or offer Lennon a contract.

[TsarBomba]

We lived within our means and stayed debt free. Our journey in the Prem will end someday soon but under Garlick the club was secure and well placed o adjust to being a Championship club

The repercussions we should most fear is if we go down with a large debt, throw everything at getting back up and fail and then potential see the club left in financial difficulties that put us at risk

Hopefully AKLs gamble will pay off but I much preferred the debt free model under Garlick as did most of this board up until recently and in fact we often gloated how brilliant a run club we was to play in the top league with no debt and no sugar daddies bank rolling us

I agree re the debt.

What I’m saying is if we get relegated this year, or maybe even next, then that’s not on ALK’s failure to strengthen, that’s a repercussion of kicking the can down the road for the past 3/4 years.

[boatshed bill]

Nixon says Lookman doesn’t want to come and we ‘might’ now try and make an offer for Cornet or offer Lennon a contract.

Lennon it is, then

[Dark Cloud]

Lennon it is, then

Oh dear!

[Steve1956]

Nixon says Lookman doesn’t want to come and we ‘might’ now try and make an offer for Cornet or offer Lennon a contract.

Lookman...50/1........Cornet 50/1......Lennon 1/75 exciting times.....you really couldn't make this up.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Lennon it is, then

Better effing not be.

[Wembley09]

We could sign nobody then and save that movey towards next season in the Championship

[Firthy]

There's still time to turn things around but with the prospect of Lennon returning and lack of any other movement, the takeover is looking like all bluff and hot air. I hope I'm wrong but I don't have a good feeling the way things are heading.

[ksrclaret]

If it's not plainly obvious to everybody by now that we're signing Lennon and nobody else, then I don't know what to say.

[jedi_master]

I agree re the debt.

What I’m saying is if we get relegated this year, or maybe even next, then that’s not on ALK’s failure to strengthen, that’s a repercussion of kicking the can down the road for the past 3/4 years.

Well, the first few windows where we signed nobody it was down to Garlick, yes.

Why would ALK not be culpable for this window (and last January, if you want to be mean) when they publicly said they were backing the manager in the window and then haven’t done? ALK not putting the backing there to allow long term captures and forcing us into the likes of Lennon on a free at 34 is entirely on them. It’s a continuation of the lack of investment and long term planning that we have been stagnating because of for the last three years.

[Steve1956]

We will be on the phone to Peter Crouch next...."Hi Pete,fancy coming playing for us again,we know you was absolutely shite but no one else will sign for us".....please Pete.

[Wembley09]

Shame Nathan Dyer just announced his retirement.. we could have snapped him up instead, be abit cheaper on wages... and he's younger