Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[FCBurnley]

He is deemed to be behind Mumbongo who is struggling for minutes at Accy. Do you really think Richardson is the answer?

I didn’t think McNeil was either

[FCBurnley]

If Cornet signs who will he replace ?

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I suspect players are simply not attracted to us because our wages are not as high as other clubs.

Could you ever imagine a player sticking with a lower salary simply because he prefers a different formation?

It's everything.

Wages, location, style of play, and definitely where foreign signings are concerned, lack of infrastructure and friendship opportunities.

We basically have to offer more in wages if we're competing with another club because of all of the above, something that is never going to happen.

Other Premier League clubs already have established foreign signings, translators, and it's an easy transition for a foreign player to have people who speak their language around them.

I really feel this window is make or break for Burnley. Either we get a few quality bodies in the next few weeks or Dyche will walk, and the house of cards finally tumbles.

[SkiptonClaret]

I have to say Cornet seems the most unlikely of Dyche signings. Foreign, black and under 30 ? I don’t see him in what must be the most White, British, aged, hard Brexit dressing room in the Premier League.

[gandhisflipflop]

I have to say Cornet seems the most unlikely of Dyche signings. Foreign, black and under 30 ? I don’t see him in what must be the most White, British, aged, hard Brexit dressing room in the Premier League.

What has being black got to do with anything? People really do talk utter shite at times.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

It's everything.

Wages, location, style of play, and definitely where foreign signings are concerned, lack of infrastructure and friendship opportunities.

We basically have to offer more in wages if we're competing with another club because of all of the above, something that is never going to happen.

Other Premier League clubs already have established foreign signings, translators, and it's an easy transition for a foreign player to have people who speak their language around them.

I really feel this window is make or break for Burnley. Either we get a few quality bodies in the next few weeks or Dyche will walk, and the house of cards finally tumbles.

What infrastructure are we lacking for players?

[SkiptonClaret]

What has being black got to do with anything? People really do talk utter shite at times.

I’m pretty sure there aren’t many PL starting elevens that feature no black players on a regular basis. Just find it a little odd to be honest. Plus Dyche has no real track record, aside for one or two exceptions, for signing foreign players.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

What infrastructure are we lacking for players?

I've clearly just stated.

We don't have the staff and we're not organised to take in foreign talent. We've taken in foreign players who were already in the UK, or in Stephen Defour's case, an international player who has played in many countries already.

We're now looking to secure deals from young talent in the European market, a completely new territory for the club.

Other clubs have departments that take care of every aspect of the transition for their overseas talent, from helping them find houses, get their kids into schools, bringing their families over, learning English, permanent pitch-side translation staff, we don't have any of it.

Players expect 24/7 assistance with everything, and we're a long-way behind every club in the league.

[randomclaret2]

Cornet sent off this afternoon

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I've clearly just stated.

We don't have the staff and we're not organised to take in foreign talent. We've taken in foreign players who were already in the UK, or in Stephen Defour's case, an international player who has played in many countries already.

We're now looking to secure deals from young talent in the European market, a completely new territory for the club.

Other clubs have departments that take care of every aspect of the transition for their overseas talent, from helping them find houses, get their kids into schools, bringing their families over, learning English, permanent pitch-side translation staff, we don't have any of it.

Players expect 24/7 assistance with everything, and we're a long-way behind every club in the league.

No you didn't, but this comment is definitely a better one with more detail for us to digest, cheers.

[Steddyman]

I've clearly just stated.

We don't have the staff and we're not organised to take in foreign talent. We've taken in foreign players who were already in the UK, or in Stephen Defour's case, an international player who has played in many countries already.

We're now looking to secure deals from young talent in the European market, a completely new territory for the club.

Other clubs have departments that take care of every aspect of the transition for their overseas talent, from helping them find houses, get their kids into schools, bringing their families over, learning English, permanent pitch-side translation staff, we don't have any of it.

Players expect 24/7 assistance with everything, and we're a long-way behind every club in the league.

I think this is very astute observation that I hadn't considered before.

On the plus side, if Dyche does walk, then even if we go down we may find it easier to atract players.

[s6t9a2f3f]

I think this is very astute observation that I hadn't considered before.

On the plus side, if Dyche does walk, then even if we go down we may find it easier to atract players.

thats if ALK do not drain us of money paying debts off in the meantime

[leightonjameslegend]

Discussing this after the game yesterday and I think Dyche is as responsible for the lack of transfers as the owners.
He is far too loyal to the 'old guard' Brownhill was needed yesterday not Cork. Barnes should be a last resort.
So even if we sign players they won't go straight into the first team, plus we play such a rigid style and formation for some players it will just not be attractive.
Then prior to this window we sign similar players, meaning we change bodies but not our style of play. We desperately need pace, creativity, and an out ball. But I fear even if we sign the players they will not get into the team.

[Conroysleftfoot]

I've clearly just stated.

We don't have the staff and we're not organised to take in foreign talent. We've taken in foreign players who were already in the UK, or in Stephen Defour's case, an international player who has played in many countries already.

We're now looking to secure deals from young talent in the European market, a completely new territory for the club.

Other clubs have departments that take care of every aspect of the transition for their overseas talent, from helping them find houses, get their kids into schools, bringing their families over, learning English, permanent pitch-side translation staff, we don't have any of it.

Excellent post. Hadn't thought of most of what you say. It certainly shows how far we are behind the other clubs.

Players expect 24/7 assistance with everything, and we're a long-way behind every club in the league.

[ClaretTony]

If Cornet signs who will he replace ?

No one. We are short on numbers.

[ClaretTony]

I've clearly just stated.

We don't have the staff and we're not organised to take in foreign talent. We've taken in foreign players who were already in the UK, or in Stephen Defour's case, an international player who has played in many countries already.

We're now looking to secure deals from young talent in the European market, a completely new territory for the club.

Other clubs have departments that take care of every aspect of the transition for their overseas talent, from helping them find houses, get their kids into schools, bringing their families over, learning English, permanent pitch-side translation staff, we don't have any of it.

Players expect 24/7 assistance with everything, and we're a long-way behind every club in the league.

Dyche said Just that recently. We are way behind the rest of the Premier League in terms of supporting players from other countries.

[kentonclaret]

It's everything.

Wages, location, style of play, and definitely where foreign signings are concerned, lack of infrastructure and friendship opportunities.

We basically have to offer more in wages if we're competing with another club because of all of the above, something that is never going to happen.

Other Premier League clubs already have established foreign signings, translators, and it's an easy transition for a foreign player to have people who speak their language around them.

I really feel this window is make or break for Burnley. Either we get a few quality bodies in the next few weeks or Dyche will walk, and the house of cards finally tumbles.

Some excellent points.

I am sure this is a big incentive for some of the bigger clubs to appoint experienced overseas managers who have a full knowledge of the foreign market and previous associations with the players that they want to recruit. This, I feel, will always rule SD out of the running for the biggest jobs.

On the other hand the club has had plenty of warning that overseas recruitment is the path to follow and plenty of time to start putting the infrastructure in place. Perhaps SD was not fully committed to the idea though?

[Jakubs Tash]

He is deemed to be behind Mumbongo who is struggling for minutes at Accy. Do you really think Richardson is the answer?

Deemed by who? You?

Richardson is not the answer right now but a year is a long time is a very young footballer’s career and Richardson has come on so much in the last few months. I’m surprised Mumbongo is still on Burnley’s books.

[randomclaret2]

Dyche said Just that recently. We are way behind the rest of the Premier League in terms of supporting players from other countries.

Why is this still the case though after 6 seasons in the Premier League, 7 of the last 8 ?

[Vegas Claret]

Stoke say McLean can leave on loan.........

[Newcastleclaret93]

Deemed by who? You?

Richardson is not the answer right now but a year is a long time is a very young footballer’s career and Richardson has come on so much in the last few months. I’m surprised Mumbongo is still on Burnley’s books.

I thought it was clear given that Mumbongo was given a decent chance lass season.

Looks an ok player Richardson but miles away from being ready for the premier league.

[Wokingclaret]

Dyche said Just that recently. We are way behind the rest of the Premier League in terms of supporting players from other countries.

Championship too by the sound of it

Mentioned something like a "housing manger"

[elwaclaret]

I thought it was clear given that Mumbongo was given a decent chance lass season.

Looks an ok player Richardson but miles away from being ready for the premier league.

The noise being made about Mumbongo on Twitter was absolutely moronic. A young lad trying to make his way in the game was apparently the answer to our prayers… he has bags of potential with more experience, same for all youngsters. Football matches against experienced players is what makes or brakes a player. Ferguson realised it, yet forty years on everyone still expects every kid given a chance will be another Trevor Steven.

A couple of players in their late twenties would be ideal, then only then should kids be coming off the bench to get a feel of the Level they are aiming for.

[taio]

I thought it was clear given that Mumbongo was given a decent chance lass season.

Looks an ok player Richardson but miles away from being ready for the premier league.

Was last season. But it's a long time ago for an 18 year and Richardson is now ahead of him.

[ClaretTony]

Why is this still the case though after 6 seasons in the Premier League, 7 of the last 8 ?

If you can find the answer as to why we haven’t built that up then you might want to tell Dyche.

[Rileybobs]

I’m pretty sure there aren’t many PL starting elevens that feature no black players on a regular basis. Just find it a little odd to be honest. Plus Dyche has no real track record, aside for one or two exceptions, for signing foreign players.

Apart from;
Dane Richards
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Stephen Ward
Fredrik Ulvestad
Jelle Vossen
Rouwen Hennings
Robbie Brady
Jeff Hendrick
Steven Defour
Johann Berg Gudmundsson
Chris Wood
Nahki Wells
Anders Lindegaard
Matej Vydra
Erik Pieters
Nathan Collins

[elwaclaret]

Apart from;
Dane Richards
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Stephen Ward
Fredrik Ulvestad
Jelle Vossen
Rouwen Hennings
Robbie Brady
Jeff Hendrick
Steven Defour
Johann Berg Gudmundsson
Chris Wood
Nahki Wells
Anders Lindegaard
Matej Vydra
Erik Pieters
Nathan Collins

I think most people were treating that poster with the contempt his post deserved there Riley rather than suggesting it was justifiable in any way.

[Rileybobs]

I think most people were treating that poster with the contempt his post deserved there Riley rather than suggesting it was justifiable in any way.

Fair point. I was quite interested to see for myself how incorrect his claim was though.

[Jakubs Tash]

I thought it was clear given that Mumbongo was given a decent chance lass season.

Looks an ok player Richardson but miles away from being ready for the premier league.

Back in January when we had injury problems and lack of players, you mean?

As others have said, a year in an 18 year olds career is a long time and Richardson, whilst not the answer now (as I said), has progressed way beyond the 22 yr old Mumbongo who has never been up to it and isn’t even getting a game on League One.

[SkiptonClaret]

Apart from;
Dane Richards
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Stephen Ward
Fredrik Ulvestad
Jelle Vossen
Rouwen Hennings
Robbie Brady
Jeff Hendrick
Steven Defour
Johann Berg Gudmundsson
Chris Wood
Nahki Wells
Anders Lindegaard
Matej Vydra
Erik Pieters
Nathan Collins

Well aside from the fact that Dane Richards was signed by Howe, the majority of the your list are / were UK based players. Of the ones that were actually signed from abroad, Vossen stayed a couple of weeks, so that leaves Defour and Ulvestad (I’d rather forget Hennings if at all possible).

[Rileybobs]

Well aside from the fact that Dane Richards was signed by Howe, the majority of the your list are / were UK based players. Of the ones that were actually signed from abroad, Vossen stayed a couple of weeks, so that leaves Defour and Ulvestad (I’d rather forget Hennings if at all possible).

Oh sorry. I thought you claimed that Dyche has no real track record, aside for one or two exceptions, for signing foreign players.

[SkiptonClaret]

Oh sorry. I thought you claimed that Dyche has no real track record, aside for one or two exceptions, for signing foreign players.

I did but I perhaps should have been clearer. I was referring to non-UK (and Irish) players currently at clubs not in the UK / Ireland. I perhaps assumed it was implicit.

[Rileybobs]

I did but I perhaps should have been clearer. I was referring to non-UK (and Irish) players currently at clubs not in the UK / Ireland. I perhaps assumed it was implicit.

Well yes, it would have helped if you’d said what you actually meant rather than something entirely different. Unless of course you’re now moving the goalposts because your claim was proven to be completely incorrect.

[Hipper]

Cornet sent off this afternoon

That's one way of not playing before a transfer. Better then injuring a big toe!

[SkiptonClaret]

Well yes, it would have helped if you’d said what you actually meant rather than something entirely different. Unless of course you’re now moving the goalposts because your claim was proven to be completely incorrect.

Nah. No need to move goalposts. Our lack of experience in the foreign market* is clearly where the discussion is.
*Players not born in the UK or Ireland AND currently not based at a club in the UK or Ireland.

[Taffy on the wing]

So he’s not in talks with Burnley this weekend then as reports yesterday suggested…

Xoom?

[claretblue]

Christie wasn't in the squad for Celtics cup-tie today...does anyone know reason for his omission?

[DCWat]

Christie wasn't in the squad for Celtics cup-tie today...does anyone know reason for his omission?

Unless there’s a real character concern, he’d appear on face value to be a great option for us.

[warksclaret]

Unless there’s a real character concern, he’d appear on face value to be a great option for us.

Now that would be a boost after yesterday

[Taffy on the wing]

I really don't understand the attacks on Dyche........He's the best thing that ever happened to this club!

[Hedontplayforyou]

Let’s see what occurs before the end of the window ladies and gents

[Vegas Claret]

I really don't understand the attacks on Dyche........He's the best thing that ever happened to this club!

in the last 50 years

[Paul Waine]

I don't want to add to any negative sentiments on here. I've just seen a report that Leeds are interested in Maxwell Cornet.

UTC

[alf_resco]

I really don't understand the attacks on Dyche........He's the best thing that ever happened to this club!

"Attacks" is a very loaded word.
How about "questioning" some of his actions/decisions? Or is even that not allowed?
He may (or may not be) " the best thing that ever happened to this club" but I can give you loads of names of blokes who were the same but eventually passed their sell-by date: Bill Shankly, Don Revie, Brian Clough just for starters - all were "the best thing ever" but guess what, one day their time was up.

[tiger76]

Christie wasn't in the squad for Celtics cup-tie today...does anyone know reason for his omission?

No he wasn't. Ange Postecoglou was asked about that in his interview, and he simply stated that Ryan Christie had picked up a knock in training, and due to their hectic schedule he thought it better not to risk him today. Make of those comments what you will.

[randomclaret2]

I don't want to add to any negative sentiments on here. I've just seen a report that Leeds are interested in Maxwell Cornet.

UTC

Im sure Leeds were linked earlier in the window, but werent willing to pay what Lyon were after

[Burnley Ace]

What’s a “hard Brexit dressing room”?

[Lancasterclaret]

What’s a “hard Brexit dressing room”?

One that can comfortably ignore a 5-0 half time scoreline, simply by believing in it a bit more and can think its actually 2-0 to them?

[randomclaret2]

One that can comfortably ignore a 5-0 half time scoreline, simply by believing in it a bit more and can think its actually 2-0 to them?

No, still doesnt make any sense

[TheOriginalLongsider]

I think Leeds rated Cornet at around £6 million and dropped out very early on.