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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57 am

Still think the fact we had no one within twenty yards of the half way line is the main reason

Vydra was bought on to change that, and it didn't work

Just like bringing Barnes on the Brighton game didn't work

Sometimes stuff doesn't work

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57 am

AMN update

https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/sta ... 9447758848

He's got to be going somewhere now surely?

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:58 am

Culmclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:55 am
It’s easy with hindsight but putting Pieters on instead of Vydra and giving Dwight a freer role would have given Leeds a lot more to think about.
Exactly!
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Post by Claret_tinted » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:59 am

clarethomer wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:54 am
Just some food for thought.

We have heard and read a lot about the use of data for helping clubs spot players etc.

I also remember that there was a story about how Memphis Depay’s agent used the same analysis and data to find a club for him following his career not progressing well at United.

It could be that this decision is one which is right for the player. Yes it’s disappointing for us and for some fans but you want the club and player to be on the same page. If they are not- I’m pleased it has allowed us to move on.
If you read about Salah’s path after Chelsea and how they plotted his movement based on the playing style of the clubs that could afford him you’ll have spent a good 10 minutes being fascinated!

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:00 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57 am
AMN update

https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/sta ... 9447758848

He's got to be going somewhere now surely?
Why would they even do that???
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Post by Claret_tinted » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:00 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57 am
AMN update

https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/sta ... 9447758848

He's got to be going somewhere now surely?
I don’t think Arsenal can afford to let him go, I think they’ll have to appear to be firm with him as to stop the rot that’s infecting the wiser club.

Can’t have players on social media dictating their situation. That being said, I would love him at TM.

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Post by burnleymik » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:02 am

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:44 am
I like Taylor but he has been responsible for 3 goals so far this season which has cost us 5 points.
So we just ignore all the excellent defensive work he has been doing in those very same games?

Also, to be fair one was a slip, that is just very unfortunate.
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Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:03 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:52 am
Not responsible. Dyche should have shored up our left side. We have Pieters. We’re ahead (twice) you bring Dwight off and support Taylor (ps both the other managers put fresh legs on against him) with Pieters. Dyche just does plug and play subs, never reacts to the other coaches moves.
I tend to agree. In both games Dwight was back but ineffective in his protection of Taylor. At one point for Leeds’ goal he actually ran beyond Raphinha without getting a tackle in & he checked inside easily. Taylor then fluffed his tackle. To be fair though, even after those situations, we were unlucky with the deflections, etc.

Do think that there would be some sense in putting Pieters at LB, Taylor LW & Dwight as 10 when in similar positions in future, but that’s for another thread.

Lowton has been perfect defensively and I think that’s all you can ask. Roberts will have a job getting ahead of him, I suspect.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:06 am

burnleymik wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:02 am
So we just ignore all the excellent defensive work he has been doing in those very same games?

Also, to be fair one was a slip, that is just very unfortunate.
That's how it goes, similar with being a goalkeeper, you can make 2 incredible saves and then make a howler and cost your side the points. There's no doubt Taylor is a very good left back, we've all seen it numerous times, he's definitely not at his best at the minute though.

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:06 am

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:50 am
Surely Booth would be coming into the U23s?

He was on loan in the Austrian second division last season.
He’s a long way from ready IMO. Doesn’t mean we can’t invest in potential though 🤷

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Post by BennyD » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am

Hats off to Mr Pace. He seems to to be ramming the abuse from the nay sayers back down their throats. He’s starting to show he meant what he said about growing the club, let’s hope he’s done enough to convince SD to sign a long contract.
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Post by ClaretAL » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:18 am

CT - How many remain out of the 4 you had ready?

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Post by Gordaleman » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:22 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:06 am
He’s a long way from ready IMO. Doesn’t mean we can’t invest in potential though 🤷
Yes, we can, but this is being touted as a loan, not a buy for the future.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:24 am

Wolves have stated they're open to offers of £50 million plus for Traore :shock:

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Post by Culmclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:26 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:24 am
Wolves have stated they're open to offers of £50 million plus for Traore :shock:
I bet they are!

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:27 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:24 am
Wolves have stated they're open to offers of £50 million plus for Traore :shock:
We would probably be open to offers of £10m plus for Kevin Long

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Post by willsclarets » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:28 am

James is a better player than Traore and half the price! They're dreaming if they think they'll get that or anywhere near it. His end product is woeful.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:28 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:06 am
He’s a long way from ready IMO. Doesn’t mean we can’t invest in potential though 🤷
We seem to have done quite a bit of that over the summer and am hopeful that within a year or two we might possibly have an exciting team on our hands and at worst, have a little more strength in depth.

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:33 am

Nixon reckons we are looking at another option for a number 10 now that Christie is out of the picture. Maybe there’s a surprise waiting in the wings?

Really hope we finalise Roberts too.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:35 am

Think Roberts will be it

Very unlikely we will be able to get someone in at this late stage

Still, thats way better than it looked a couple of weeks ago

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Post by BigAlClaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:35 am

I know he's injured but are we still in for Jason Knight possibly?

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:38 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:35 am
Yeah, same

But it would have given us some more cover, and would have been another one who brought the average age of the squad down

But if Parker has promised him game time, and he struggles, then that is going to bite both of them
He is a very important and talented Scottish international. Game time is important for the world Cup. That is why Bournemouth would be favoured.

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:40 am

https://www.footballinsider247.com/medi ... a-sources/

Roberts looks certain.
Well done BFC.

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Post by minnieclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:41 am

Don’t personally want Wilshire but if he is clubless the window wouldn’t matter.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:41 am

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:40 am
https://www.footballinsider247.com/medi ... a-sources/

Roberts looks certain.
Well done BFC.
“The midlands club” :lol: :lol:

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:41 am

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:40 am
https://www.footballinsider247.com/medi ... a-sources/

Roberts looks certain.
Well done BFC.
Who was the Midlands club that offered 1.5m :D

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:42 am

Taylor Booth - young US player with Bayern Munich - possible loan?

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer- ... y/4465874/

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:42 am

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:40 am
https://www.footballinsider247.com/medi ... a-sources/

Roberts looks certain.
Well done BFC.
Not sure Id be putting too much faith in an article that describes us as a " Midlands Club "

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:43 am

Pieters for Dwight, against Brighton was a no brainer. It was obvious Dwight was tiring, and it was obvious that Charlie couldn't do it all on his own. I thought he had a great game, just left with too much on his shoulders. The slip against Leeds was just one of those things.
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Post by ClaretAL » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:45 am

We have had a great window and a definite shift on what has been done previously, you only have to read the first page of this thread to see how far we have exceeded most peoples expectations. I do have a bit of a shiver when thinking how we afford it, but similar clubs seem to cope ok. impending thoughts of potential relegation have gone and a sense of increasing optimism following playing well in the last 3 games and a lot better start than the previous season (although not on the table), coupled with some great signings and potential of even more to come and possibly the evolution and rebuild of our squad and how we play. If this make me a happy clapper then so be it, its great to be a Claret UTC NNN COYC.

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Post by jojomk1 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:46 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:50 am
Re Charlie Taylor "responsible for goals "
The lack of tackling and tight marking by our powder puff midfield caused the issues
We failed to cut out the passes prior to it getting near our defence
Our dropping back Howestyle and playing for a draw also didn't help.
On Saturday our lhs midfield was AWOL for the equaliser and Charlie's slip unfortunate
Powder puff midfield !

Get your tin hat on

Dyche clearly happy with our cm four, including Stephens ;)

As for dropping back and playing for a draw being Howestyle, we have been playing this way pretty much ever since Dyche came in

Just that now, the powder puff midfield can't offer the cover/support from a couple of years ago

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:47 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:42 am
Not sure Id be putting too much faith in an article that describes us as a " Midlands Club "
There are other links.

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:49 am

I wonder if Phil Bardsley will move this window, to get some end of career playing time?

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Post by Paddy1882 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:50 am

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:40 am
https://www.footballinsider247.com/medi ... a-sources/

Roberts looks certain.
Well done BFC.
Top signing this, good age, international experience and cheap going by today’s market standards. Exactly the kind of business we should be doing.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:52 am

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:47 am
There are other links.
True 👍
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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:57 am

Barkley behind Wood would be great, he was excellent for Villa last year until he got a bad injury and never returned to form.
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Post by agreenwood » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:08 am

William Carvalho of Betis now being linked by Spanish/Portuguese media.

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Post by joey13 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:27 am

BennyD wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am
Hats off to Mr Pace. He seems to to be ramming the abuse from the nay sayers back down their throats. He’s starting to show he meant what he said about growing the club, let’s hope he’s done enough to convince SD to sign a long contract.
So you now ok with putting the club into debt and ending up like Portsmouth/Wigan etc

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Post by joey13 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:28 am

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:57 am
Barkley behind Wood would be great, he was excellent for Villa last year until he got a bad injury and never returned to form.
Poor attitude though , Dyche wouldn’t be remotely interested

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:30 am

Carvalho would be decent, albeit not necessarily what we need.

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Post by Rileybobs » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:31 am

Hope we only offer Roberts a 4 year deal as his legs will have almost entirely gone by the end of that.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:33 am

Brighton sign Cucurella from Getafe

That will no doubt be a different Cucurella who in no way will he be signing for either Burnley or Brighton

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:34 am

joey13 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:27 am
So you now ok with putting the club into debt and ending up like Portsmouth/Wigan etc
You could logically argue we’ve only signed 1 player anyway with Collins swapped for Gibson & Hennessy for BPF that leaves cornet, I’m not mentioning AL for obvious reasons.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:34 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:31 am
Hope we only offer Roberts a 4 year deal as his legs will have almost entirely gone by the end of that.
Seen Liverpool have given 31 yr old Henderson a new long term deal, weird all the teams ignoring players ages

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Post by Spijed » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:35 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:33 am
Brighton sign Cucurella from Getafe

That will no doubt be a different Cucurella who in no way will he be signing for either Burnley or Brighton
Sounded like from previous tweets that we were looking at him as one of our options, along with Cornet & Lookman.
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Post by Spijed » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:35 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:34 am
Seen Liverpool have given 31 yr old Henderson a new long term deal, weird all the teams ignoring players ages
Far too old for some on here.

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Post by Rileybobs » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:36 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:34 am
You could logically argue we’ve only signed 1 player anyway with Collins swapped for Gibson & Hennessy for BPF that leaves cornet, I’m not mentioning AL for obvious reasons.
You couldn’t logically argue that as we’ve factually signed more than one player.

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Post by Jambounchained » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:36 am

Carvalho would be a huge upgrade on Cork.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:37 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:36 am
You couldn’t logically argue that as we’ve factually signed more than one player.
Why do you put yourself through it?

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